PATTERN FLYING HELP
10-04-2006 | 01:40 PM
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From: taylor,
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PATTERN FLYING HELP
I AM A ROOKIE PILOT WITH LOTS OF STICK TIME ON MY LT-40.(4 OZ. OF EPOXY AND 1 ROLL OD DUCT TAPE LATER) I GOT MY SECOND PLANE FROM A FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. A SIG MIDSTAR WITH A REAL BAD FLUTTER. I COULDNT FIND THE FLUTTER NO MATTER WHAT I DID, UNTIL I FOUND IT THE HARD WAY. YEP ANOTHER CRASH, BUT I DID GET THE CHANCE TO LEARN A FEW BASIC PATTERNS. THEN I GOT THE PHOENIX GILES G202 FROM ANOTHER FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. ( COULDNT BEAT THE PRICE I THOUGHT) WELL I WAS COMING OUT OF A LOOP AT 1/4 THROTTLE AND THE AILERON DECIDED IT WANTED TO TRY FLYING BY ITSELF. YEP YET ANOTHER CRASH. I JUST BUILT THE PHOENIX EXTRA 300S AND GOLBERG TIGER .60. I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD PATTERN PLANE AND ONE THAT WILL MAYBE DO SOME 3-D. I AM A BIG FAN OF THE KNIFE EDGE ( WHICH I HAVE YET TO PERFECT)AND THE 300 S WILL NOT DO IT. I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG? THE 300S ALSO WANTS TO TURN RIGHT IN A CLIMB OR LOOP. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGETIONS TO OFFER?
10-04-2006 | 03:34 PM
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RE: PATTERN FLYING HELP
Suggestions?
Yup..... get the slop out of your connections. Sloppy connections is the cause of most flutter. Put one hand on the servo arm and hold it still. With the other hand, try to move the surface that's connected to that servo. If you can feel movement, find out why and get rid of it. Replace the horns or arms or clevis or whatever it takes.
As for learning how to fly maneuvers, there are a couple of good books that cover that. It's a subject that really takes a book to cover all the knowledge you're going to need to know. Model Airplane News publishes one. Tower sells it, I think. It's advertised in the back of MAN magazines.
It gives advice starting with "slop in your connections causes flutter......"
Yup..... get the slop out of your connections. Sloppy connections is the cause of most flutter. Put one hand on the servo arm and hold it still. With the other hand, try to move the surface that's connected to that servo. If you can feel movement, find out why and get rid of it. Replace the horns or arms or clevis or whatever it takes.
As for learning how to fly maneuvers, there are a couple of good books that cover that. It's a subject that really takes a book to cover all the knowledge you're going to need to know. Model Airplane News publishes one. Tower sells it, I think. It's advertised in the back of MAN magazines.
It gives advice starting with "slop in your connections causes flutter......"
10-04-2006 | 03:54 PM
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RE: PATTERN FLYING HELP
ORIGINAL: hillbillyexpress
I AM A ROOKIE PILOT WITH LOTS OF STICK TIME ON MY LT-40.(4 OZ. OF EPOXY AND 1 ROLL OD DUCT TAPE LATER) I GOT MY SECOND PLANE FROM A FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. A SIG MIDSTAR WITH A REAL BAD FLUTTER. I COULDNT FIND THE FLUTTER NO MATTER WHAT I DID, UNTIL I FOUND IT THE HARD WAY. YEP ANOTHER CRASH, BUT I DID GET THE CHANCE TO LEARN A FEW BASIC PATTERNS. THEN I GOT THE PHOENIX GILES G202 FROM ANOTHER FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. ( COULDNT BEAT THE PRICE I THOUGHT) WELL I WAS COMING OUT OF A LOOP AT 1/4 THROTTLE AND THE AILERON DECIDED IT WANTED TO TRY FLYING BY ITSELF. YEP YET ANOTHER CRASH. I JUST BUILT THE PHOENIX EXTRA 300S AND GOLBERG TIGER .60. I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD PATTERN PLANE AND ONE THAT WILL MAYBE DO SOME 3-D. I AM A BIG FAN OF THE KNIFE EDGE ( WHICH I HAVE YET TO PERFECT)AND THE 300 S WILL NOT DO IT.
I AM A ROOKIE PILOT WITH LOTS OF STICK TIME ON MY LT-40.(4 OZ. OF EPOXY AND 1 ROLL OD DUCT TAPE LATER) I GOT MY SECOND PLANE FROM A FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. A SIG MIDSTAR WITH A REAL BAD FLUTTER. I COULDNT FIND THE FLUTTER NO MATTER WHAT I DID, UNTIL I FOUND IT THE HARD WAY. YEP ANOTHER CRASH, BUT I DID GET THE CHANCE TO LEARN A FEW BASIC PATTERNS. THEN I GOT THE PHOENIX GILES G202 FROM ANOTHER FELLOW CLUB MEMBER. ( COULDNT BEAT THE PRICE I THOUGHT) WELL I WAS COMING OUT OF A LOOP AT 1/4 THROTTLE AND THE AILERON DECIDED IT WANTED TO TRY FLYING BY ITSELF. YEP YET ANOTHER CRASH. I JUST BUILT THE PHOENIX EXTRA 300S AND GOLBERG TIGER .60. I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD PATTERN PLANE AND ONE THAT WILL MAYBE DO SOME 3-D. I AM A BIG FAN OF THE KNIFE EDGE ( WHICH I HAVE YET TO PERFECT)AND THE 300 S WILL NOT DO IT.
I AM DOING SOMETHING WRONG? THE 300S ALSO WANTS TO TURN RIGHT IN A CLIMB OR LOOP.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGETIONS TO OFFER?
Tug on all control surfaces before a flight (better to find a loose hinge on the ground). You can also tape or add folded covering strips in the control surface gaps to prevent mild flutter.
Get something in the cheap sport plane class like a Big Stik or a Sig Something Extra (very good for knife edge) and you'll spend less on tuition in the School of Hard Knocks.
