which of these make good second planes

It really depends on the type of flying that you want to do. But, I would recommend a .46 size airplane that is pretty stable, but will also help you to learn some of the basic/necessary maneuvers. For example, landing a trainer is a heck of a lot easier than landing an aerobatic/sport airplane. These are things that you will want to think about when buying a second plane.

Alright, now that that's over, I personally flew a world models t-34 as my second airplane. Like I said, it was fairly stable, but it allowed me to experiment.

Hope this helps a little.

Good luck,

Patrick

Stacking the evidence a little aren't we?

I think I'll vote for the Goldberg Tiger II... it's about as good as a 4*, highly recommended whenever the question is asked without a list to constrain the answers, and it wasn't on the list of choices.

A hint on designing surveys -- only constrain the responses when you have a preference that you want the results to show.

From the models listed, the SIG 4 Star series and the Ultra Stick series are the better choices for a second plane.

Ultra stick all the way. That was my second plane and still my favorite. My flying skills really improved dramatically after I went to my ultra stick. Just make sure you have the control throws set on a low rate to start with. If you need help test flying or setting up an ultra stick I will be more than glad to help you as I live right on the border of kettering. I also have a 4* 60 while it is a great plane I still recommend the Ultra Stick. In my opinion the ultra stick is much easier to land than the 4*. The 4* just floats and many times with it I floated right off the other side of the runway.
If you haven't decided by the time it gets warmer I would meet you at the field and you could take a look at each one and see how they fly. This snow is killing me.

The 4*60 gets my vote. Good plane for building skills too........

Spad DasPlasStick, that was too easy but I didn't see it on the survey

Take the gear from your trainer, build one for less than $10...you'll have NO FEAR to do what you need to do to go from nervious nelly to total hot shot. If you cream it, big deal, build another one and get your practicing butt back out there the next day. For $100 you can go through 12 or 15 or more "2nd planes" if you feel like it. Once you have skyburning mastered, and confidance like no tomorrow...spent the time and money on your 3rd plane, your dream plane, and will last awhile

Either the 4* or the stick, either one being the 60 size. Since we are talking second plane, I would lean toward the 4*. It's maybe a little more forgiving to dumb thumbs, and the construction is stronger. By the way, I've had both. Sold the Stick, still have the 4*

At any rate either of those would probably be a much better second plane choice than any of the others you listed. Save them for third.

Larry

Hi Larry, did you sheet the wings of your 4*60 or built them stock ? I'm kinda concern of the open structure, but was too lazy to do the rib mod required for sheeting.

man must have a stik in the hanger!!

rajul,

My 4*60 is by the plans. Between the shear webs and the diagonal bracing between the ribs the wing ends up strong and stiff.
I have a 4*120 kit that I hope to get around to sometime. The plans for it don't include the diagonals, but after seeing the 60 wing I think I will add them.

Larry

any stix or star series is a great second mine is on my intro picture.

dennis

Thanks Larry. Sounds great !

Sticks all the way. Very durable.

thanks to u guys for all the input.
to the guy from dayton, ill be seein u around at wingmasters, think im goin to join the club!