I've been looking at 3d fparkfliers and I want to get one. I can fly them easily on my G3 sim. Would this one be a good one? http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/703036.asp
Or would this one be better? http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/107110.asp

Interestingly enough, neither of the planes you've selected are really considered 3D planes. The Formosa is very agile and is designed for pattern-style aerobatics while the Super Chipmunk is designed more for scale aerobatics.

3D flying usually involves a lot of high-alpha "nose up" manuevers and hovering the plane by the propeller rather than flying on the wing. It requires a 1:1 or better power to weight ratio and very large control surfaces to hold the plane in position while it's hovering.

Both the Formosa and the Super Chipmunk would be very manuverable, however, and a lot of fun to fly. Get them both if you've got the cash.

Thanks for the quick reply. Im not that good at 3d yet, just want a park flyer to fly where my trainer cant. Kinda leaning more towards the chipmunk as its RTF

Nobody seems to want to hear it, but the best flying, easiest building 3D foamie available anywhere is the Charger RC CR-1.

It costs a bit more than a cheap park-flyer to get it in the air with top-of-the-line gear, but it's well worth it. I always have one of these with me.

Lots of people say they can build their own...they usually end-up with something that will fly, but just barely...or they have some tail-heavy piece of junk that hovers well, but really isn't good for much else.

If you want a foamie for 3D training and an all-around excellent plane get one of these. You will need a good motor, ESC, lipos, RX and servos...don't skimp. Once you have all of the electronics, the planes themselves are relatively cheap.

I am by no means a good foamie builder, but I can assemble the airframe on these babies in under 20 minutes. Takes me about an hour to install and program the gear after that.

Here in Southern CA, we have been flying these things for a couple of years, but they are available via mail-order everywhere. I really love these planes and I fly one every single day. If I had it to do over again I would have saved the money on flight simulators and just gotten a few more of these planes instead.

Now that there is a decent quality charger that will charge up to 5 lipos at a time, you will never be unable to fly.

Sorry for rambling on and on, but I can't stress enough how perfectly suited this plane is for someone who wants to learn 3D without risking a more significant investment. These things glue together in a snap, are easily repairable and will TEACH you to fly better in all regards.

I am hooked on these planes. I fly them at parks, parking lots, AMA airfields, farms, vacant lots, commercial buildings and just about anywhere else I can safely do so. I fly glow and gass at a regular AMA field, but without the foam, I would still be WISHING I could do some of the things I have learned with the help of my foamies.

I have flown dozens of other foamies, park-flyers, and '3D' electrics....there is just no comparison. http://www.chargerrc.com

WOW, long post....sorry about that.

Thanks i like the foamy you said but I dont have that kind of money right now as im only 15. I like how foamys fly on the sim and would get one but Its kinda out of my price range.

For the money, the PZ typhoon 3d is a great buy. It is very durable and 'mod'able. The stock electronics suck, but I put my own rx in at first and it is a good flier/trainer. Plug and play for around $229. I'm eyeing the Brio or Diamante 25 next...

Have fun.

Thanks, I like the typhoon 3d as it comes in plug and play and RTF, and I will start saving up a little more for it. How big of an area do you need to fly foamys? I have a 50ft by 50ft front yard and some more room over the neighbors lawn and street.

I would say 50ydx50yd at least. That is my skill level, though. Meaning inept.

LOL, dont worry man Im worse How durable is the foam? It sounds like it could take a beating

It is very durable and there is not much that 5 min epoxy can't fix. I'm on my second fuse ($28) and I broke it in half and tore the firewall off about 4 times, re-glued, and kept flying. It is a MUCH better flier with a park 480 and 35A ESC and Hitec HS-81 servos. The stock servos are prone to stripping gears and are not really strong enough for 3d. It takes a pretty heinous crash to do significant damage, unlike the formosa. I glassed the wing and tail of my formosa and it is still fragile, but a much nicer flying airplane than the typhoon. More of a pattern type flier than 3d. I like em both, but the typhoon takes the cake for everyday flying.

After seeing some videos of it fly I now really, really want one. Now I have to look around to see what store is hireing nearby.