Okay if i do get a brushless engine and a battery from JustGoFly would it work on the stock parkzone controls or should i get a better controller then get the stuff but like what do i need is it a


450T Brushless Motor
and what kind of battery would i need and prop he said umm 7x5 prop. Or to get more thrust i can do a 7x6 so? What should i do help me please lol and umm if i do get it will it have instructions on how to install it?

Brushless motors can not be used with speed controllers meant for brushed motors. You will need a brushless electronic speed control to operate this or any other brushless motor.
The bad news is that the brushless ESC often is more expensive than the brushless motor it runs. Make sure that the ESC has enough amp rating for the motor. Trying to run a 20 amp motor on a 10 amp ESC will fry your ESC.

whats a speed controler? i got a f-27b stryker and well thats about it can the battery do ok or would i have to upgrade to a better one? i have a blue one and a yellow one the yellow one is faster its a
10.8V 1000mAh Ni-MH Battery
sight is: http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ1027
is that a good battery or would i have to upgrade it? and umm so all i need is the control thing too and im set?
whats a esc how would i check that i have the f-27 b stryker and i saw the guy on the place fly it he had a f-27b stryker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn2jz7O-Duc

and what kind of speedcontrol would i have to have and how to use it lol

dartvader!

Dude if that motor in the pic in your first post is the motor you bought with the intension of hoping up your stryker b then it will not fit. At least not easily anyways. What i see there is an out runner type motor (this is where the outside can spins) and what you need is an in runner type motor (where the inside shaft spins)

Now dude listen to me... before you dart off (no pun intended) and buy anymore stuff.

STOP!!!!!

First off its not very cost effective to hop up a stryker b unless you have most of the important parts lieing round

by that i mean

a standard receiver and transmitter (not what is sold with the stryker b)

if you want more fun with your stryker b and dont want to spend too much money right up front contact park zone ask them to recomend a lipo battery and charger for your stryker b

while yout at it buy extra motors for the strker b (your going to need it) and when you use them break them in by removing the prop and running it on low throttle for about an hour
make sure that there is no arching (sparks) on the brushes. Then use the lipo prop that came with your stryker b This is the cheapest route to more fun with your stryker

if you insist on hopping up you stryker then this link below will supply you with all the insite you need and more trust me

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...89169&page=240

i dunno if the link will be removed or not so go to google and type in "F-27 how far can you take it" click on the link with those words and read read read.

but fair warning
if you are going to try hopping up then just consider this first

you need standard equippment to do this so you need

1) brushless motor inrunner type ranging from 22-25-28- or 3000kv believe it of not parkzone uses the 1880kv on the stryker C and boy does it scream!
the cost of such a motor ranges from $60-$100 most people use mega motors which are round $90
2) standard Receiver $30-$70 and standard transmitter wow that can cost anywhere from $60 and up just depends on what you get
3) two standard servos $16-$21
3) motor speed controller anywhere from a 20amp to 40amp so thats around $40-$70 depending on brand
4) lipo battery pack whats normally used are thunder power packs 3S1P packs from 2100mAh at 20 or 30C ratings your talking round $60-$80 and chager ment for lipo which is anywhere from $30-80 or over $100 depending on what you get.

Im not kidding all of this is what you are going to need to get to upgrade that stryker. now unless you have all of that round somewhere your talking too much money in my opin

listen your best bet..

your very best bet if your yearning for a zippier stryker is to just get the stryker C from parkzone and be done with it

thats only going to run you $250

you get the plane the TX the battery and charger the motor heck you get it all for just $250 and you get a very capable very fast very agile stryker that can go vertical in an instant

its worth it and its a hell of a lot less of a headache than putting it together your self. unless you got money to burn and a load of patience

i really hope this helps i really do cuz just a few months ago i was in your shoes haha :P

that motor you got though.. i woulddnt feel like it was wasted money though.
im sure its a pretty good one so hang onto it and im sure in future you can find good use for it
it never hurts to have extra parts trust me!



xero.

Sorry i forgot to answere your other question

the ESC is actually the speed controller or electronic speed controller (esc)...it basically controls the motor functions
on standard brushed motors there are two wire controllers and three wire controllers for brushless motors

you dont see an esc on your stryker because its built into the receiver that came with the stryker (you know that thing encased in the yellow plastic? thats your Rx or receiver)
the stryker b do not use standard equippment just stuff made specifically for parkzone.. which is cheaper...not of less quality mind you just cheaper in cost, but they are appropriate for what they do and as such they are proprietary meaning they cant be used with anything else but what parkzone makes (unless your really crafty about it)

the stryker b are usually grey camoflage and use brushed motors and nimh batteries while the stryker c are tiger camo with brushless motor and lipo battery check it out on parkzones website or horizonhobby.com
the stryker A isnt sold anymore you will only find stryker b or c

again dude good luck

xero.

lmao.. okay ile let my dad look at this and see what he thinks so yeah and uh what was it... ty and there was something else i was gunna say.. hmm now damn it wat was it >. < O YEAH do u think that it would be easier just to get the f-27c stryker or should i just get all that like u said? lol cuz where i live speed are almost like 13-14 o yeah and is their a battery charger for the batery like not to plugin to a car cuz my mom went somewhere it sucks i cant fly it now >.< WAAA

check these links for the stryker

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ4200
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Search/D...stryker&CatId=


If you want a faster, better performing stryker, then upgrading from nimh to lipo and using the lipo prop which came with the stryker b not forgetting that you also need lipo charger will be a very cost effective solution.

Parkzone can help you with that. Just call them up and be very clear with them about what it is you want to do. I'm sure their number is in your instruction manual for the stryker b or you can try horizonhobby.com.
If they are selling you one of their lipos and charger the connector plugs may be different from the ones on your plane so bear that in mind and remind them of it aswell.
and as I said before get extra motors be sure to break them in right when you do too. (I recently had my first brushed motor burn out on me. not very pleasant. Smells bad gets massively hot and smokes too, not pretty.)


But

if you want the best performance and flight time then the stryker C is your best bet.. better than trying to build it your self.. especially if you have never done something like this before.

Trust me its a load less of a headache and easier on your pockets than doing it your self with the version b man so just get the version C and save your self money time and headaches..

A word of caution though, the stryker c is a very high performance plane (in my opin). Be very careful with it and I would suggest you buy it when and only when you are very proficient with the stryker b



The whole reason people began modifing the stryker b is because at the time of its release there was no version C (obviously) so there was no high performance stryker at all.

People were happy with the plane but as usual there are some people out there (I'm one of them hehe) who like working with their hands and wondered what was possible with the stryker and so they decided to push the envelope and get the max performance out of the model as they could.

(They are actually still at it even now!).

Thats why that thread was born ["F-27 how far can you take it"]...

If you look throught that thread you will find that some people have done some amazing things with their strykers.. some have even included landing gears on them even pontoons for water landings and take offs its just increadible!

It was because of all of their hard work that I think parkzone came up with a revision of the stryker and the version C was the result.

Basically they took out all of the guess work and came up with the best, ballanced (speed, performance and affordablity) plane you could get for the money.

Personally I think they did a dam excellent job at it as well...

What you see people doing in the forums borders on crazy really. The speed they achieve with this plane and the power they pump into it is just nuts. One guy even burnt up his plane!!!

As for the car charger I agree with you you definately need a wall charger. I cannot suggest an inexpensive one and I'm truly sorry about that. I'm just not well versed about this kind of thing.

But here is what I did do with mine, I got an adapter.

I'm sure your local radio shack can sell you something which will fit over that cigerette lighter plug and mount it into the wall.
Just make sure it can output 12 volts. You can bring along the charger which you have to radio shack and ask them if they can help you with finding an adapter for it.

Good luck to you man

Clear skys and calm days to ya.

xero.

yeah i think i may get the c stryker but then ile have 2 planes thats cool ^_^ yeah well anyway thx for all the help man lol uhh can i get ur email ? like send it to me on a prv message lol so OYEAH and i figured out something on the battery conecter the red and black wires wernt in all the way thats why it wasent connecting realley good lol but still cant get full blast to work >.< o well thxs for the help lol

Your welcomed and I'm glad to help just as I have been helped. Having two planes and two pilots flying at the same time is awesome! Personally, I never go flying without my buddy
I just have more fun when my friends are along but thats just me!

As for my email. errr hmm I'm not in the habbit of just giving it out to random folks online, hope your not offended by that though. If you need any more help I'll be happy to try feel free to contact me via pm if you feel the need to. I wont mind but for now at least I wont divulge my email.

Clear skys dude!

xero.

Dude?

okk lol that works too =D

Whats wrong CGRetired?

okay i think im just gunna buy the parts and put it on my stryker lol soo heres the links to em leme go round em up =D willl these parts work on my stryker?

the motor is http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLM2000

the battery and charger is http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ1050

the radiocontroler is this http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLH1055 or this http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLH1046

and the esc is... http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...rodID=EFLA312B

i think dats about it and umm what do u mean about servos i can get better servos like what?

I see two transmitters but no receiver. You would still need to get a receiver and servos for them.

( The servos are the little black boxes under he wing which are connected to the push rods ( Short stiff metal wires ) which in turn move the trailing edges of the wing (elevons) up or down. These elevons manipulate the planes position in the air)

In my opin. the stuff you picked. Namely Motor ESC Lipo batt and charger are good, however I am not sure if he motor which you selected is of the correct diameter you will have to check it against the diameter of your current 480 motor.

I know nothing about the two transmitters which you selected and i see that one is a 2.4GHZ system, if I am accurate, that one may be packaged along with its own Receiver in which case you would be all right.

The best advice I will give you here is

Please call up parkzone or horizonhobby tell them what you want to do. Tell them what you have picked and ask them what they think about that setup before you run off and buy anything. There are possibly many other little things which I may have not considered when buying that they may bring to lite. One which I can think of right now is the motor mount.
I am not sure if the standard motor mount is sufficient for the new high powered steup.. If you take a look at the stryker C you would see that there is a newer mount.

Also you would need a 6x4 propeller and propeller adapter for the shaft of that motor... or you can just use the propellers which were recomended for that motor

But call up parkzone Its their stuff they would know what the best fitting parts are for that plane

good luck again

xero.

yeah well on the motor i found it in the magazine. It said it would work so ur saying for the control i need to get the right servos or it wnot work or what? lol cuz like today my dad is going to go to hobby town usa and see what they think. So they will help us out too i gusse and well... thats about it lol thxs agian ^_^

The thing is, The servos which are already installed in your Stryker B are (I think) 5 wire servos. Standard servos are three wire. All standard Receivers use Three wire servos (as far as I know anyways). so this is why you would need new servos.

The whole reason for this goes back to your motor.

As the motor is the first thing people tend to think about when they are hopping up any airplane (my opin).

The idea is that you use a brushless motor. The motor you are going to need uses three wires for its magnetic coils.

The only thing which will run such a motor is an ESC and there in lies the begining of your problems.

To use an esc you need a radio receiver which will allow you to plug one in.
The ones which do this are Standard Receiver boxes. Case in point, the one included with your plane is proprietary (they are made specific for parkzone and their applications and hence are for the most part, incompatible with Standard RC equippment)

so then...

you buy the motor, the propeller, propeller adapter, the esc and a new radio receiver box... NOW you also need a standard transmitter and propper crystal pairs on the same frequency before you can use such a Receiver... not to mention that the standard radio receiver will now only be able to use standard Servos.

so... in a nutshell.
YES you need to buy new servos....

Again ill suggest that you just buy the Ready to fly (RTF) stryker C.
Soon thats where my money will be going...
either that or i get the ARF version and just use my standard equippment on it since I already have those lieing round


good luck

xero.

s000 confusing!! lol like a video would be nice im a visual learner but my dads going to hobbytownusa today so he probly gots it now lol

Don't worry about the confusion soon it will all be clear. If you are a visual learner then trust me you will learn either the easy way or the hard deep pockets way, but either way you will learn :P

I still say for the record "The way to go is with the stryker C"

But hey it's your money you will figure it out eventually and you may have loads of fun doing it too and almost any experience in my book is good, um almost! ;-)

as for video? hmm sorry can't really help with that one I have no idea where you might be able to get that kind of help but

on horizonhobby.com at the bottom of the page are several links for begining in the hobby you can check them out at

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Search/A...ow-Tos&CatId=A

and

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Articles...ArticleId=1647

and on towerhobbies.com there's

http://www.easyrc.com/

I'm off to bed

Good luck

xero

my dad went to the hobby town usa thing and well they told him that all we need to get is the esc thing motor and a battery and the charger and thats all we need but they said to go like slow because u will lose control of it lool well tomorrow were going to the placec where i first got my stryker soo lol


ALSO on the beginer thingy umm i did the opposite of what it said i never got one of em triners i just got the stryker i crashed it a few times made it fly far away from me got stuk in a tree.. yep LOADS of fun and they got me a new 1 and im doin pretty dam good now soo... YAY

Two thumbs up dude maybe you have a totally different stryker than I have had experience with

Again good luck to you guys
Let me know how it works out
Send pics if you can

xero.

kk ile try to do a vid of it too lol =D well thx for all the help dude

hey your welcomed any time! although.. from what your telling me I was absolutly zero help lol.
Guess my names appropriate!


xero.

lol!!! yeah uhuh hey what do u fly or do u do car stuff??? lol is it hard to fly them 3d planes im thinking bout gettin1 wats a good 1 lol

I fly

Multiplex micro jet (which I will hop up to brushless very soon [ perhaps his weekend ] I already got all of the parts needed)

Hobbico Ventura (Still using a brushed motor for the time being - and I am considering modding it to include landing gear and ailerons)

UltraFly F-16 Brushless

And will soon buy a

Parkzone F-27 Stryke C ARF [Almost Ready To Fly ] - Since I already have good radio equippment Propellors Adapters and LiPo batteries + charger etc.

Right now I'm yearning for Speed and High G maneouvers with an occasional chug-along with my Ventura powered glider (I just love flying this model!)

As for 3D planes I will not buy one unless I can proficiently Carry out most of the maneouvers in my flight simulators first

I'm using Two of them for now
Aerofly Professional and
the Free one called FMS or Flight Model Simulator
Both very good Both Very accurate

and I can use my standard transmitter on FMS so I'm good

Hope that helps.


xero.

Forgot to add

I have also flown

A hobbico Redhawk
Actually got two of these for a buddy of mine I found them rather tame and lacked enough control. They are Great beginner planes wonderful trainers but
they should only be flown in Zero wind conditions if you dont know what you are doing. I found them to be inadiquate for my level.

And there is off course the F-27 Stryker B wich is the very first serious model which I have ever flown.

Matter fact I did 90% of my begining RC Flight on this thing.... From what I have read that was rather stupid to do but I was Very confident that I could pull it off
and I did YAY!!!!!!

Too bad it was my buddies plane and after many flights we completely totalled it.. The Fuselage was so bent that it woulddnt flight right anymore hahahaha.
So I gutted it took out all of the electronics and will be building an other flying wing with the parts. Im dreaming up a scratch build of an F117A Stelth Fighter if not then
a very basic flying wing design similar to the Zagi.

xero.