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i flew a cox control line years ago when i was around 9 fun plane as far as i can remember

i was wondering what were the reasons you went with Lanier ST-40 this time what do you like about it say over a sig lt 40

I flew so many CL planes, I can't remember any of the names of them. I was a kid then too. The one's I flew had cox 049's even though I collected others. The one I used most was the Cox golden B. My dad flew some free flight while he was in the Korean war. He and some of his budies flew one that turned north. It was last seen heading accross he DMZ. I still have some of his old engines from that era.

I choose the Lanier ST-40 Simply because of price. I got it for $40 on ebay. Since I crashed my Kadet last fall, I had an engine, radio gear, etc. that just needed a plane. The sig LT-40 isn't (I don't think) the same Kadet I flew. It looks much easier to build than the older type Kadet I had (In my own opinion). My old Kadet had a plastic cowl that was a pain to deal with. It always was hard to get clean (inside) after a flight. You couldn't get it clean without taking it off, which meant you had to take the whole prop and spinner off too. The front of the fuselage had more carving to do than the sig lt 40.

I had never tried or heard anything about the Lanier so I decided just to try it. I loved it after I built it, it was so easy. I built it in a week. Everything is laser cut and fit together like a jigsaw puzzle. If I want to spend many hours on a plane I don't want it to be a trainer. I build trainers to fly and if I crash them, I don't worry so much, because I know I can salvage the guts and fix it easily or build another. So to me speed of building is a good thing.

My RC Hangar

I have some pics in my RC hangar of my old Kadet. It looks like the same wing as the sig lt 40. Which I saved and put on another airplane. I would say that if you build it straight, the sig lt 40 would fly great. One thing I would note, is the lanier st40 does have a skinny fuse. The Kadet's might be considerably wider. It's one thing to consider if you don't have skinny fingers. I have some build pics of my ST-40 if you want a better look.

just went to my local hobby store and went to find out more about the clubs and what was for sale there i got into this conversation about radio's cheap Vs expensive and about feature's he said something about dual rate's are good should i change my choice's beacuse of this just curious

I can vouch for the JR662, I enjoy mine, has plenty of mixing options and is simple to use.
LT-40 is a great plane to start with. I started out with a 25 taildragger and am glad I did, love to watch that tail start to fly as speed builds. I guess it may be a little more difficult than a tricycle but IMO its worth the effort, all my planes have been taildraggers, sooner or latter, youll want to learn anyhow, no big deal.
The Avistar also is a nice plane to start with, makes a good 1st and 2nd plane. Id see what the local club likes to train on.

Well i found out the club thought if i go with the sig lt-40 was a great choice to start with i wanna know though also will dual rates on a radio help me as a first time flyer or do they matter at all just looking at my options because for me as soon as i get back from a trip this weekend i'am gonna start buying ohh boy can't wait for the toy's

I have a JR662 and love it. Just be careful of one thing. If you nedd to use a buddy box, do not use the 662 for the instructor if at all possible. The 662 has a button that must be pushed down to keep control in the hands of the student. It does not take much side pressure or movement to move control back to the instructor, and holding it down perfectly straight can be very difficult if the student flies for long periods. We can contribute at least one crash of my trainer on this. It really should be a lever you can pull back on.

Not necessary to use dual rates on a trainer as they have smaller controll surfaces.
Fun fly planes ect., which have very large controll surfaces with extreme travel is where the advantage of dual rates comes in handy.
Without a way to govern the travel on the ailerons and elevator, youll tend to overcontroll during takeoffs and landings as well as flying squerrilly untill you get used to the plane.
Your next planes after the trainer will most likely benifit from using the computer radio, so, if you can start off with one, youll save $s.

DjSE7EN,

as far as the tricycle gear v's tail dragger, the main difference on the ground is turning radius. A tricycle gear will turn more sharp. Some will say the tricycle gear is easier to land, others will say differently. I think's a preference thing. I've turned too sharp many times with a trike and snapped the prop on the ground. My suggestion is to build it the way the kit suggests and don't go out of your way to do it differently. You'll just be spending uneccessary money. Save that for something with retracts! . It really doesn't matter your first time anyway. You won't be dissapointed with tricycle gear.

Go with the SIG mark II , it flies well , builds easy ,and will give the confidence needed to go on to a higher performance plane , as for the radios , ????? there will always be debate , but for the beginner , go as simple as you can ,with as much quality as you can afford. Hitec, or futaba are more than likely to be acceptable brands that will be present at most clubs ,

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lots of way to go...you proposed way seems just fine too.

nothing wrong to having a flat bottom airfoil trainer....always fun to play low and slow

I see the LT40 is well accepted, as are the Avistar and Aerostar. That's about the same where I fly.

Two alternates that are showing up... the Alpha seems to be quite viable, an easy purchase package. I've seen two show up with people who haven't bothered to contact a club, and in each case it worked out well.

My first student bought a Solo Sport, which served him well through early aerobatics. He sold it to a guy we work with, who also became my student, and he used it through early aerobatics, and is ready to sell it. I'm looking for a prospective student, to make it three on this same plane!

But, as the survey shows, there are lots of LT-40's, and some Avistars, Aerostars, and several alternates working out well like the Tower offerings. The most disappointing I've encountered is an old Eagle II, which has become the club's property. Doesn't handle well on the ground. If I use it with a student, I'm going to look into that.

Good luck!
Dave Olson