Hey, Ive got an area at the back of my house that is about 300' x 175'. I'm trying to find a "small" (.25 or so engine) plane that I can play with. I'm still learning but, do fly fly a Sig Mayhem and an Avistar 40. The kicker to this is that most of the area is a pond. with a wall of tress on all sides. A floater would be ok as long as its small. Ive looked at most of the sites but cant really find anything that is small unless its electric. Any suggestions are appreciated.

There a Great Planes PT-20 that is a .20 trainer. If you wanted you could put it on floats, I would run a bit of a bigger motor in it if that is what you want to do. You could also get a Sig MK II that is a .20 Trainer as well.

Are you looking for an ARF or for a kit?

You also have to remember that floats will only work if you land the plane properly on the water (I have never flown with floats), they will not help you much if you nose it in.

I think the sig seniorita would be more of a floater then the Pt series.

If your interested in something differant I can suggest Estar Models Pilatus Turbo Porter, http://www.estarmodels.com/. While it is advertised as an electric, converting it to glow is easy. I converted one to glow and used an OS .15 in it, a .10 would fly it just fine. As it was designed as an electric park flyer it can be flown in a very small space. Putting it on floats would not present a problem either, there is video of one on floats at their web site. Just a thought.

Herr Little Extra ARF Purple .061-.074,36.5" might fit the bill as well.



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Here are a couple of kits that should fit the bill nicely:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXN771&P=0

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAGD2&P=0

I'd recommend either the Thunder Tiger GP-07 or GP-10 engine depending on which one you decide to build.

the size you quote is about the size of a football field,awful small for the planes mentioned as the sppeeds they fly at will eat up the available space real fast.that area would be a slow flying park flyer.

I think your asking for trouble flying anything bigger than a small foam park flier. That is not really enough space for anything with a glow engine. Unless of course your one of those amazing 3D pilots that hover in a area the size of their living room.

High wing "SONIC" from Tower.. .25 size. 52" WS, About $69.bucks. Sweet !

Yes, a bad water landing can tear up your plane just a badly or even worse than a bad ground landing can.

How about something like this. It comes with optional floats http://www.hobby-lobby.com/superzoom.htm

Hey, thanks for the info. Because Im still a newbie pretty much Im trying to stay away from kits. An ARF would work much better for me right now. It seems that all of the smaller engine planes come in kits though so I may have to give it a go. thanks again

Thanks everyone for the input. I know the area is small but, I'm determined. I think the park fliers are surely the easy answer but I'm trying to stay with glow instead of elec. I think what the plan will be is to.... get the small Piper Cub kit, (can get float kits for it) build it with some mods. that will let me put a little more engine in than is called for and fly that puppy. I will definitely post some pics and let the group know how it goes. Thanks again for all of the ideas. I looked them all up and read about them and found some great water vids. along the way... should be a blast...

nice... it looks like its begging for floats... A few people have told me to put floats on my Avistar too...

smiles... Ive got a cub w/floats on the way.... I let ya'll know how it goes.... If all else fails and I can put it back together... I'll fly it on the river.... My biggest concern is how much run will it take to get in the air... If I put in a little larger motor to get me off the water quicker then I can "lug" it around. I think... thanks for for the ideas

the Super Zooms look like big fun... I have actually looked at those. If I already had the set up and stuff for E flight I think I would have several of those type planes. They seem rugged and agile. But, I'm trying to stay with glow... If I branch off into one more hobby I'll be sleeping with my dog Ruger by the pond. thanks for the ideas....

I know.. I did find a video of a SlowPoke [link]http://media.putfile.com/Slowpoke40ARTF[/link] that looks like fun... If my Cub doesn't make it I might try this. thanks again for the ideas

These are great planes and the guys at the hobby shop and I looked at them but, they do fly fast... Would like to have one at the flying field to see if it will "lug" around or not.. Ive got some landing area but, the vids. of this plane show a fast little mover.. thanks for the post...

Nice plane... good video... I cant believe how fast it gets off the water... How is yours flying with the 15? It must rip. The kit they show looks good. Are the pieces already cut? Ive never done a kit before so Im lost about it. If you have any pics. or vids. of yours I would really like to see them. Thanks for the ideas...

This is a fully lazer cut kit so it kind of goes together like a puzzle and then you glue it together. The pictures at Estar models of the plane without covering show this. With a 15 it will maintain flight at less than 1/4 throttle. If you go to www.rcuvideos.com and type in Air America in the search box it will take you to a short video of my conversion doing a fly-by. Here's a still of it in the Air.

GET AN ELECTRIC!

Electric? Like I want to mess with expensive batteries that last less than a year. Tried it, don't like it.

I have tried electrics some and have to say they lack a certain 'Real Airplane' aura. While many seem to like the sound of electric fans flying thru the air I much prefer the sounds that real airplanes make. Now if Charles Lindberg can convince Ryan aircraft to make him a full size electric airplane that he can fly non-stop New York to Paris I may reconsider my position. For now I prefer my planes to sound like planes. I hope you enjoy your electrics as much as I do my non-electrics.

I have tried glow engines some and have to say they lack a certain 'Real Airplane' aura. While many seem to like the sound of glow engines flying thru the air I much prefer the sounds that real airplanes make. Now if Charles Lindberg can convince Ryan aircraft to make him a full size glow airplane that he can fly non-stop New York to Paris I may reconsider my position. For now I prefer my planes to sound like planes, which do not sound like chain saws or lawnmowers. Really, except for the decibel level, a high performance geared electric probably comes closer to sounding like a real P-51 than any glow plane does. I hope you enjoy your glow planes as much as I do my electrics.

Im sure I do. The E planes look like a lot of fun. Especially from what Ive read about them. They have come along way. For fun flies and the one like I need to fly around my pond they probably fit better but, I have the glow materials, field box,spare parts,tools etc.... and since I also ride motocross the neighbors are kind of use to that two stroke sound... I do have a Miss America P-51 with a 90 4 stroke that probably sounds a little better than an Electric one would. But, sound is just a preference. I don't remember my history classes teaching that Charles Lindberg flew E planes. huh