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Calmato Sport

Basically the same layout/dimensions as the 4*
Lighter (so the 56 would have an easier time)
Slightly faster, slightly more agile
Nicer looking
Comes with more things already done for you, like all surfaces hinged and hinges glued. Even got the motormount bolted on!
Tricycle gear and EASY to land
$105.

Hi Moondoggie.

Well, I didn't buy the Tiger II (40 size) arf, I bought the kit so I can't really comment on the ARF. But I can comment on the Tiger 60 and Tiger 120 ARFs.

The Tiger 60 was (still is) a great flyer. I love that plane. I beat the hell out of it.. my second plane after my trainer, which was a Nexstar. I started out with an OS 61 SF then later on put a Super Tigre 75 with a tuned pipe. The plane flew just fine with the OS 61 Sf but I needed to replace the front bearings on that engine (bought it used and it needed them when I bought it). The Super Tiger, well, the muffler insides came all undone, Super Tiger replaced it, two flights later it happened again, so I bought a MACS tuned pipe system for it (header, tube, and muffler) and installed that, and it flys just great.

The second one, a Tiger 120 is also a great flyer, however, I was very VERY disappointed in that ARF. I put an OS 1.20 AX on board and built it, what I thought, very light. I moved stuff from the rear, used pull-pull, light weight tail wheel assembly, and so on, yet I still needed over a pound of nose weight just to make the CG. That really pissed me off. And, I know of three others that bought this model with the same problem.

They build them strong, I'll admit that, and that requires strong wood, I understand that, but jeech.. over a pound of nose weight to make the CG?

But, as I said, it flys great in spite of the weight, and the OS 1.20 AX is more than adequate for that plane. Verticals are great, take off speed is attained very quickly ( APC 15-10 pattern prop) with about 9800 RPM as max RPM with that prop, and it flys just fine with absolutely no probems at landing in spite of the pound of wieght... which means that the wing loading is more than adequate..

My other Goldberg is a Wildstick 40. A fun fly plane that I also beat around like a bad dog. It has an OS 46 on board and flys just fine.

Dick.

Just an update to an old thread.
The last 4 months I`ve flown the heck out of the 4 * .Easily putting on a 100 flights a month and a few bumps and bruises along the way. Last weekend the rudder hinges gave way while making a landing approach , the only thing holding it on was the control horn.
landed a little ruff and the 4* 40 is now retired. lol

I bought and ARF SSE a month ago and am to the point of installing a engine . I`m going to start out with the Saito .56 that was on my 4* . After it has been broke in, it pulled the 4* good and the planes weigh about the same. Or I do have a OS 46ax or a GMS.47 I can install on it. After doing some research , it seems most have 2 stroke on them .

I miss the 4* so much already , I ordred a 4* .60 kit , which well make a good home for the ST G.90 I have. Or a ST .61 , the .90 is the same wieght as the .61 and hope the extra power does`nt hurt anything.

I have a Saito .56 on my SSE and love it. The plane is so light that the .56 is plenty of power for my flying style. Many members here have larger 4-strokes on their SSEs and haven't posted any problems. If you've already got a great .56 FS, I say strap it on and see how she flys. I'd bet if you were happy with it on your 4*, you'll enjoy it on the SSE too!

-MA

Thanks for the info. The .56 did pull the 4* well on Omega 15% . Saito says try Heli 30% fuel for a good gain in power . I may try if it needs a little more power The .56 sips fuel. so cost would be mucj=h of an issue .

Personally, I'd run the .46-AX on the SSE. Use an APC 11x5 or 11x6 and you'll have a very fun airplane. I have a couple of these engines, one on a Super Sportster and one on a Hobby People Sport Stick. They are hard to beat in a .40 sized sport plane. The Saito is a great engine but the SSE needs a screaming 2-stroke in my opinion.

One guy at our club had the SSE out a couple weeks ago. He bought it from another club member, so he did not build it. (am not sure if it is an arf or kit). Anyway, it has a 46 size, believe it is a GMS, but not sure. Anyway, we spent a few minutes getting it started and tuned right. I didn't notice what his throws were like until after he took off. All I can say is WOW!!!

He is a new flyer, solo'ed only a few months ago. This was quite a handful for him. After he took off, he tried to turn left but the thing spun and rolled wildly, he managed to straighten it out without crashing. We were all quite concerned. After he made a few very cautious orbits, it was obvious that he was having a lot of trouble flying the thing. The only thing I could think of to ask was if he had trimmed it. I didn't want to insult him by asking him if he wanted me to fly it or land it.. so I asked if it was in trim.

His answer.. 'Uh, I don't know, I am to busy trying to keep it headed straight'. Then he asked me if I could take it and trim it out.. so I told him to climb high and give me the transmitter.

I took it over and trimmed it out, only took a few clicks, however, the way it was set up, a click of aileron would almost cause a roll!! [:@] So, I climbed high again, and spun it out quite a bit to test out the fuel flow (a test that was taught to me by a friend and a real pro flyer). The engine shut down indicating that it was still quite lean.

Anyway, I was now deadstick, which was a blessing. I made a few moves to slow it down a bit then came around and landed it without incident.

We took a close look at the controls.. ended up reducing his end points on both the elevator and ailerons to 40% and suggested that after he was done flying that day that he remove the end point electronic adjustments and put it back in as mechanical adjustments on his servo and control horn connections (to the inner holes in the servo ends and outer holes on the horns) then re-center all and see what he has for throws.

After I did the end point changes, he flew it again and was able to fly it quite nicely. He did about 4 flights after that and enjoyed it.

I guess my point here is that the SSE was capable of being both a wild flyer as well as a very sedate and capable mid-wing aerobatic "trainer", and with a .46 size engine.

CGr

Thanks for the input CGR . I`ve flown a Twist quite a bit on high rates and know how squirrely they can be. The thick wing and large surfaces of the SSE reminded me of the Twist . And since the airframe is used at lower speeds , thought a 4c would be better for the mid range torque.
I did run 4 or 5 tanks thru the GMS .47 on the test stand and out of the 15 engines I have , this one seems to have the highest RPM , it just screams , but it`s a lot louder than the others.
The Saito .56 pulled the 4* 200 ft vertical and would hold a knife edge at about 2/3 throttle , so I think it should have plenty of power. If it`s not enough , the .72 fits in the same footprint, just did`nt want to fool with changing landing gear to get prop clearance.
I`m like a kid in a candy store, I cannot make up my mind. I better go flying and think about it. lol

Hi Robbie.

The four stroke makes sense. I am in the build process of a SSE kit. I have an OS 50 that has been gathering dust for the past several months (after I destroyed my Venus 40.. grrrrr.. [:@] ) and thought the SSE would be a good home for that engine.

I really need to stop some of my building.. jeech, my back room used to be a spare room, with my computer, some storage, a work bench.. now, heck, I can barely get in there with all the stuff lying around.. including a whole lot of both fuel and electric planes.. ha..

Enjoy your flying today! I have to work.. []

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Put 8 flights on the SSE ARF , with the GMS .47 . First 6 flights were dead sticks , running a little to rich . The 7th flight, the engine started to come in and run pretty good. The 8 th flight, I had the engine tweaked and man does it have some rpms . The plane flys great !
I threw it into a snap roll and went into a split S, and lost any control. Running DX7 and it went into fail safe. Crashed pretty hard . Upon inspection , we think the battery pulled out of the reciever . I did`nt think so but the guys said I was really throwing the plane around hard and thought it had come loose.
I really like the SSE and will build a new from a kit. I well also go with a 4 stroke on the next one, as I think this airframe would be a good canidate for one .
Started the 4* last nite , got the right wing done, Man these kits build fast.

Ouch. My condolences, Robbie. I'm still a little leery of the Spektrum radios. I'm hearing too many stories of radio failures. Other than being shot down once due to someone's frequency board error, I've never had a problem with FM. Someday I'll enter the 21st century, but I guess for now I'm too cheap.

Well Scott , I hope it was the battery coming loose , just switched 4 planes over to Spektrum and it was`nt to cheap but I keep a FM backup .
My biggest complaint about the SSE , is its size , a 60 or a .90 would be cool .
Got the right wing half done on the 4* last nite . Man this thing falls together fast. I`m a lttle concerned about my engine choice , ST.90 , not so much over powering it, but flight time .