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Old 08-19-2007 | 10:29 PM
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Since there are a lot of beginners who get ARF or RTF trainers and don’t know what is on the inside of the wing, I’ve decided to show how I did a wing repair with both minor and major damage.

I recently acquired a new, un-built Hangar 9 Alpha 60 RTF that is damaged. Supposedly it had crushed ribs in both wings, a hole in the sheeting on the top of the left wing, and a crack in the fuselage at the landing gear. For about ½ of what it would cost at a hobby shop I couldn’t pass it up (it’ll be used for an AMA intro plane and giving flight instruction).

When I opened the box I saw a lot of wrinkles in the covering near the landing gear block. I checked the fuselage on the inside and couldn’t find any damage. Feeling around on the outside it appeared to be solid as well. I tightened up the covering and installed the landing gear. After pulling and pushing any way I can I sure can’t find any damage to the fuselage. So I installed the prop and empennage and set it aside.

There are a lot of wrinkles in the covering on both wings. I started with the left wing tightening the covering on the top. I could feel all the ribs where broken at the center support, and decided to open it up from the bottom since its all red vs. the white with trim on the upper side. It’ll also be easier to recover being flat. The pictures show what the left wing center section looked like out of the box.
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Old 08-19-2007 | 10:31 PM
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After removing the covering from the bottom of the left wing I saw the center support of all the ribs was broken. I also noticed the sheeting on the upper surface of the wingtip was cracked, which will be an easy fix. None of the ribs looked to be difficult to repair so it was on to the huge hole in the upper surface.

The covering was removed from the center section showing the extent of the damage. The root rib is plywood, which I’ll call Rib# 1 as is the 4th rib out – Rib #4. The forward half of Ribs #2 & #3 are crushed. The sheeting is crushed and split between ribs R1 and R4.
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Old 08-19-2007 | 10:38 PM
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I’ve cleaned up the damaged area by removing the sheeting beyond the damaged.

I made a cardboard template from a cereal box to make replacement ribs for Ribs #2 & #3, and provide a guide to make braces for the middle of the remaining ribs. I removed only as much of the damaged sheeting as necessary. I cleaned up where the sheeting was, but left as much of the ribs as possible so I can sister a replacement rib to them – it’ll be a lot easier than trying to splice a repair section of rib to them. The glue they use constructing these is a real pain to remove completely – it’s somewhat soft and took quite a bit of sanding.

Cereal boxes are great for making templates. The cardboard is easy to cut with a knife or scissors, yet stiff enough to make multiple tracings. Since I haven’t opened up the right wing half yet and don’t know what surprises await there, I want a template that will last through both halves.
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Old 08-19-2007 | 10:41 PM
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I cut the new ribs out of 3/32 sheet balsa and glued them to remains of Ribs #2 & #3. I used yellow glue to attach them making sure I had plenty of squeeze-out between the old and new ribs. After I took the pictures I did clean up the excess glue.

After the ribs had dried a couple of hours I added some 3/16 X ¼ balsa to the spar and 3/32 sheet under the remaining factory sheet to support the new sheeting. The factory sheeting is most likely metric since 1/16 sheet was thinner and the 3/32 sheeting was thicker. I opted to go thicker and sand the sheeting down to smooth it in. After sheeting and sanding it down I didn’t want to take a chance on sanding too much into the factory sheeting, so I used lightweight spackling to fill in any unevenness and finish the blending. That was sanded smooth after it dried and completed the repair to the center section damage.
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Old 08-19-2007 | 10:44 PM
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Next up was to fix the rest of the ribs and wing tip. For the wingtip I cut a small piece of 1/16 sheet to double over the damaged area and attached it using thick CA with a little accelerator. Since the tip rib was missing a good size chunk I cut a rib to replace it.

I used the cardboard template to cut some vertical supports to fix the remainder of the ribs. With the grain of the ribs runs fore/aft providing good longitudinal support I decided to add the supports running vertical to aid in compression strength. I measured back from the spar for the correct location of the braces and then drew their location on each side of each rib. Thick CA and clamps where used until they cured.

The right wing had similar damage to the ribs, but no center section or tip damage other than the tip rib its self.

The clamps are shown on the right wing, and the left wing is shown finished and ready to be recovered. I’m estimating the total working time for the repair, assembling the fuselage and recovering the wing will be just over 2 hours. Between 2 rolls of Ultracote and the wood and glue I spent less than $30.00 and will have most of the rolls left to help cover my Balsa USA Smoothie II.
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Old 08-20-2007 | 05:42 AM
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Very nice job!
Don't forget to check the balance.
Old 08-20-2007 | 06:23 AM
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Hey Hogflyer nice job. By the way what kind of ceral box did you use LOL? Haha.
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Well done Hog flyer,nice job.However, dont under estimate the works.! This can easily go under "wing repair 201"
Old 08-20-2007 | 07:46 AM
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Hey Hogflyer nice job. By the way what kind of ceral box did you use LOL? Haha.
An empty one
Old 08-20-2007 | 07:52 AM
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Very nice job and should be a good ,strong repair.
You have added weight to the plane, which is no big deal with a trainer, but your CG and Lateral balance will be off some.
Nice work.
Old 08-20-2007 | 08:06 AM
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I was going to ask how the ribs got broken, but re-read your original post. Thanks for the information. I had a PT-40 that was my very first build. I actually forgot to put the spar in on one wing half and realized it when I had finished glueing in the ribs. There seemed to be something missing, and of course, sitting there was this piece of hardwood that looked like it belonged in there. So, I re-read the directions and sure enough.. voila.. wing spar.

I put the whole thing aside for a while and bought a wing kit and started over again. But, later on, I worked with someone that did basically what you did to reinforce the ribs and then used a piece of 1/8 balsa between ribs to form a sort of latticework to replace the spar. It flew just fine. I've since sold it and, from what I understand, still flys.

Thanks for the posting. It will be one of those keepers. Oh, and I prefer empty Cheerios boxes
Old 08-20-2007 | 08:12 AM
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AH!!~ come on it has to be the breakfast of champions "Wheaties"
Old 08-20-2007 | 09:58 AM
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Nice Work!
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Or, at my age, All Bran.. [&o]
Old 08-20-2007 | 11:30 AM
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Nice instructional thread for the new guys with damage. [sm=thumbup.gif]
Old 08-20-2007 | 11:42 AM
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The best cereal box for use in repairs, bar none, is "Captain Crunch".
Old 08-20-2007 | 11:44 AM
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Nice instructional thread for the new guys with damage. [sm=thumbup.gif]
It's a good thread for guys without damage too. I can't even begin to count how many people I've seen throw away a plane because they thought that there was too much damage to repair. I've picked several out of the trash cans that I've taken home and fixed back up (before you ask, I also go back to got rid of it and ask them first if they want it back). If new people in the hobby read threads like this they will know ahead of time how easy it is to repair damage and then think twice before throwing that plane away.

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charlie, charlie, charlie you are too much.
Old 08-21-2007 | 05:11 PM
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Here’s the finished, covered plane fully assembled ready for its first flight. From a few feet away you can’t tell it has suffered from crushed wings with a hole in one wing. I refigured the total working time and I spent about 4 hours to both repair and assemble the plane.

In summary, this is a very basic, straight forward repair. While some people may seem intimidated by cutting open a wing, especially on a new, unassembled plane, it’s not difficult. Just think through the process and follow some basic steps:

1) Look at the damage, and don’t be afraid of the 4 P’s – push, pull, poke and prod. You will be surprised at the damage that can be found with your fingers.

2) After you haven determined the extent of the damage, remove the covering as required, and start assessing the damage to determine how you need to remove the damaged areas. This is where you want to give the structure a very good visual inspection.

3) Don’t be afraid to cut into the structure. There isn’t a part on a plane that a modeler can’t fabricate and use to replace a factory made part. Make sure you take your time cutting away the damaged pieces that need to be removed. Some can be left in place and fixed with a doubler attached to them.

4) Decide what parts need to be replaced, make templates and fabricate new parts. Test fit the parts as you go along making adjustments as required. If a part doesn’t look or fit right, then cut another one. Balsa is cheaper than a complete flying plane.

5) Take your time replacing the parts making sure you have good glue joints and everything fits correctly. Pay attention to the surrounding structure so you put everything back straight. After it’s all back together, reapply the covering, and check the balance to make sure nothing has changed.

6) Take it out and fly! When you get to the field, give the plane a thorough inspection. If you have any doubts, have another club member check it over. Then double check everything to make sure you didn’t forget to hook anything up or hooked something up backwards. For the first flight, depending on the type and location of the repair, treat it as the first flight the plane has made.

The most important thing to remember is to take your time and seek help or ask questions if there is something you don’t understand how to do.
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Old 08-25-2007 | 08:15 PM
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Had a decent day to fly, so out to the field it went. I had previously removed the pins on the high and low speed needle valves to make it easier to properly set up the engine. After fueling it started right up. I ran one tank through to break in the engine, then set the high and low end for flight on the second run (hand started on the first flip too). As I taxied the Alpha out and started down the runway and started to turn around the wind caught it and over on its back it went - guess it doesn't like 15 mph tail winds very well. I fired it up again and this time the winds where down a bit - around 12 mph but had shifted to almost a 90 deg crosswind. We've had some rain so the field had not been cut, and this plane has only 3" wheels so I went way down the field. I decided to fly it with the 3-blade prop that comes with the plane just to see how it does before changing to a 2-blade. It took about 100' to get airborne thanks to the long grass (I wasn't the only one with long take-of runs today) and started into a nice gentle climb. The flight went well with some aerobatics thrown in for fun after I had it flying straight and level with most of it at 1/2 throttle. I found I do need to add a bit of tail weight and increase the elevator throw to max as I ran out of elevator on landing, and in-flight trim tests showed it was still nose heavy.

Overall I was quite happy with the way the repair and first flight went, and I'm also impressed with the ease of operation and the way the Evo .61 is running. I'll add some weight to the tail and re-adjust the controls for the minor trim, do another test flight and then its off to the training arena for this bird.

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