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Old 09-28-2007 | 10:16 AM
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Ok I want to get into flying. I flew when I was like 6 but havent flown since then. I am 12 now and want to get a kit. Yes I want a kit not an ARF. I need something that will take me a little while to build untill I can fly a little better(my dad has .25 cub that I will learn on.) Also I have been racing trucks for years and I get the hole right is right when ur flying away from you but when ur flying twards yourself right is left. My 3 oftions are the Sig LT-40, Sig Kadet Mark II .25-.40, or Sig Four Star 40. My engine would be an O.S. MAX 46 FX, radio would be a futaba 6 channel that I would eather by or my dad would give me 1 of his. Also for the LT-40 and Mark II i would convert both to tail drager. Please help and sorry for the long post I vust really need to know. Thx.
Old 09-28-2007 | 10:27 AM
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The 4-star isn't a primary trainer, so I would scratch that off of your list. The other 2 are both great trainers to learn on and you would do well with either. If you are going to use an OS 46 AX then the Kadet 25 is really too small. That leaves the LT-40. This is an outstanding trainer and you would do extremely well with it. If you're interested, I did a build thread on the LT-40 a couple of years ago. Read through it and you'll be able to see what's involved with building one.

[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_3439708/tm.htm]Pay It Forward build thread!! LT-40 build.[/link]

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Old 09-28-2007 | 10:34 AM
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Ok thx Ken. Ya I know that the 4*'s not a real trainer but I have the cub to learn on so i might just have to let that 1 stay. But thx thats what Ive heard is the LT-40 is good but i wanted to see what others thought
Old 09-28-2007 | 10:42 AM
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LT-40 ...GReat Plane....stable and Floats like a feather.
Old 09-28-2007 | 11:44 AM
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I think you'd really enjoy building and flying the LT-40. Later on, when you think you've outgrown it, you can put it on floats or skis for the winter. The .46FX is a very good engine for this plane too as is the radio you have chosen. Both will carry over well into future planes if desired.

Ken has that great build thread. There is a bit of colorful clutter in there (I helped with that) but it was a lot of fun and very educational for those seeking building skills IMO.
Old 09-28-2007 | 11:49 AM
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I've built several of the Kadet Mk II's. It's a great trainer and will fly on a plain bearing 40. A .46 plain bearing is the most it will need, and something like the .46 AX is too much power. Remember this is a 1980 vintage design that is the grand daddy to, but smaller than, the LT-40.

It also builds differently from the LT-40. The Mk II has printed fuselage sides you build the internal structure on, then join the sides together. It also doesn't have interlocking formers but that is no issue at all. IMHO, I consider the build more of a standard build and think the balsa structure is more robust in the long term, and easier to repair than some of the newer designs. I still have a Kadet Mk I kit sitting in the storage closet with a NIB OS .35 FP that may get built this winter if time and other projects permit, if that says anything about the design.

I vote for the Mk II, but I'm also an old kit and scratch builder at heart.

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Old 09-28-2007 | 02:02 PM
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I have a MKII with an 40FP which is plenty of engine, it is possible that the 46 may be on the verge of too much.
The LT40 is a great choice for a first build as is the 4Star. Want more of a challenge? My first build was a Kadet Senior, it is also a great flyer with a 46 engine. That plane is now on its third student so it can easily handle some abuse.
Old 09-28-2007 | 03:54 PM
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Goldberg falcon 3 would be good, trainer style with a semi- semetrical wing. and its a kit
Old 09-28-2007 | 03:57 PM
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you might also consider an os40 or 46 LA they are a lot cheaper than the ax and they are perfect for trainers! Welcome to this wonderful hobby, your gonna love it, good luck choosing a trainer

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Old 09-28-2007 | 04:06 PM
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I think you Guy's must not of understood his question. This is going to be his first plane. Not the one he is going to train on. I would go for the Sig 4* 40 if I were you. It will be much more fun to fly as your second plane. Since your dad's cub will be your first. Have fun and it's nice to see another builder being born. I build and only own 2 ARF's that I bought to abuse. I build Giant scale Warbird fighters. My next one is a WWII and Korean War 1/4 scale F4U-1D Corsair with a 10 foot wingspan and a 3W 200cc 20hp gas engine.

Welcome and Good Luck,

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Old 09-28-2007 | 04:44 PM
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Thx Gibbs. Also 1 thing that I forgot 2 add was that we already have the engine(we won it at a canyon crosswinds float fly)
Old 09-28-2007 | 07:27 PM
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The Lt -40 would make you a great trainer, but if you learn on the Cub , then IMHO you should build the 4 * . The O.S .46 AX will rock on this plane. Take the time to learn to fly the Cub right and you`ll be able to handle the 4* .
The build is straight forward , it repairs easy , engine is easy access and it just fun to fly. Also their both taildraggers, and if you can take off with a Cub .25 , you`ll find the 4* a piece of cake. The Little Cubs are squirrely on the ground, they will teach you rudder and throttle control , for sure.
Oh Yea , there are some free sims , do a search , use them to help you along.
Happy landings .
Old 09-28-2007 | 08:34 PM
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Hey guys, he said that he has a .46 FX, not an AX. Not quite the same but close.
Old 09-28-2007 | 09:28 PM
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Oops!
Old 09-28-2007 | 10:26 PM
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[sm=cool.gif] welcome to the fun!
The Lt 40 with a 46 fx is my favorite plane. It makes a great every day plane and can do plenty of cool stuff as the guys have mentioned. mine is a tail dragger BTW.
Old 09-29-2007 | 12:04 AM
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I'm going to throw out a new suggestion and recommend the Great Planes Rapture .40 kit. It's a great low-wing sport plane and your O.S. Max .46 FX would be a perfect match to power it. Once you can fly the Cub successfully, you should be able to fly the Rapture as well. It would be a terrific airplane to learn beginning and intermediate aerobatics with, as well.
Old 09-29-2007 | 10:43 AM
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Ok I like the look of the rapture but i need a review or something . any1 know of 1. I would love to see pics of ur guyses trainers and second planes. THX
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My 1st plane - LT-40 - http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3324313

My 2nd plane - Sig Somethin' Extra - http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=4380432

The LT-40 was a great build and an awesome trainer. The SSE is a great second plane once you've learned to fly the LT-40 well.

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Old 09-29-2007 | 12:47 PM
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Here is a pic of my well worn old LT 40 still my favorite! IT has som e tail shape mods and only 1/2 of the dihedral. Also included a SPAD knock off of the LT 40 I built for my nieces. They were built over the same plans. A spad trainer is an option and a low cost one at that. The guts are the expensive parts, a coroplast plane won't set you back much at all.
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Old 09-29-2007 | 01:18 PM
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xxxnt7,

I flew my Nexstar until I could fly it with my eyes closed. I do things that might seem crazy but my second plane was a Twist 150. It's 3D and has a Saito 150 4-stroke in it. People said I was nuts to buy it because I would crash on the first flight. I do what I want. I flew it nice and easy for awhile and then started to go crazy. It flies like a trainer in my opinion. It flys real slow and doesn't even have any stall tendencies. Here it is.

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Old 09-29-2007 | 02:53 PM
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nice planes. OzMo does that lt-40 have a three blade prop on it or is that just the pic
Old 09-29-2007 | 09:50 PM
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Still in one piece, cool
Old 09-30-2007 | 09:56 PM
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I hope I never crash

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Old 09-30-2007 | 10:13 PM
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Hey for the lt 40 is there any wheel pants for it. That would look sick cus im gana make any plane I build a tail drager. Im flying from a paved field so it'll be fine unles I go to my grandparents and fly in the humid arkansas .(oposite of sothern CA.)
Old 10-05-2007 | 11:00 PM
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so what should i do. I really like the lt but I think the four star would last longer for me and I would be able to learn some aerobatics on it then get something alittle nicer rite. But I have been thinking if I get the LT I could biuld it stock(exept tail drager) and then Put flaps and wheel pants for it and mabe get floats for our float fly. I also saw an LT25 with a sick looking cowling and wheel pants and flaps that I loved.

Does any one know which cowling this is. THX

Go to photos for RCuniverse and type in the search box kadet25

How do I post pics. Me confused.


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