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Old 10-03-2007 | 06:59 PM
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Default First low wing / Tail dragger, which do I buy?

I am currently flying a NexStar and a LT-40. I am wanting to step up to a low wing. I have gotten many suggestions at my club but am having a problem in narrowing it down. I have been looking at a Seagull's Spacewalker, Hanger 9 Pulse XT 40, or a GP Super Sportster 40. I just want to be able to do more than my high wing trainers are giving me but at the same time I don't want to get in over my head. I feel I am ready to try a tail dragger. Any thoughts or suggestions?

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Old 10-03-2007 | 07:25 PM
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i started with a apha 40 then went to a pulse the only major diff is the take off with a taaildragger the plane will goo to the left. the pulse moves alot faster and will stay where you put it unlike the apha that will level. have a trusted poilt with you for your first filght after the 3or4 filght you feel good to fly on your own agin. by the way i took all my stuf form my apha 40 and put it in the pulse with a 11x7 prop flys great. one last thing you need to land it with just a touch of power
Old 10-03-2007 | 07:36 PM
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There is the Sig 4 star 40, the 4 star 60 and 4 star 120. any would be a great choice. A couple of the guys who have built all three like the 4*60 best. I'm on my second 4*60 and it's powered with a Magnum 91 fourstroke. It is a great flying plane. Not to worry about the take off, the one thing you want to watch on take off is throttle movement. Nice and slow. If you keep that in mind, every take off is right down the white line. Landings can be a bit tricky as the plane loves to fly and it is very easy to make your approaches way to slow and risk stalling out. I still fall into this trap now and then.

The 4*'s are a quick building plane. Figure two days for the wings, one for the fuselage and part of the tail. One more to get the detial stuff done. One day to do the radio and tank setup. 2 days to cover and then hinge and one last day to make everything work. Figure about six hours a day. So, if you put your mind to it, you can be flying on in a week. I recomend building vs an ARF so you know what's under the skin for when you bruse it, and you will a time or two. It easy to become over confident when flying them, they fly so good. Take a look at some of the build threads on them. Hardly a harsh word to be heard.

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Old 10-03-2007 | 07:37 PM
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Pulse or Super Sportster. More apt to get an ARF with less flaws from those two companies.

And they're both nice looking airplanes.

Four Star is comparable, but sorta clunky looking.

TigerII can be easily converted to conventional, and would be my choice. But then I know how good they fly. Great low wing trainer. Excellent. And with more throw can do most of the aerobatics in pattern.
Old 10-03-2007 | 07:58 PM
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Sig somethin Extra or super stick. Not low wing but easy to fly and fun.
Old 10-03-2007 | 07:59 PM
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Pulse or Super Sportster. More apt to get an ARF with less flaws from those two companies.
I had the Seagull Spacewalker II and the quality was not only on par with H9 and GP but campared to some ARFs I have had from both the Seagulls quality was actually better (The only ARF to date that was wrinkle free from the box)
Old 10-03-2007 | 08:17 PM
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Get a Stick. Good first taildragger. Flys like a dream and lands like a dream also.
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Get a Stick. Good first taildragger. Flys like a dream and lands like a dream also.
What part of that plane qualifies it as a low wing like he requested?
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Fly it inverted and bingo!, it's a low wing airplane.
Old 10-03-2007 | 10:23 PM
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Well, as long as he doesn't land it that way.
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As always: ARF or kit? You seem to be looking in a .40 size, so (assuming ARF) there is a lot of fun to be had with models like the Goldberg Hot Stik (whick is a good sport model with a .40 LA or a handful with a TT Pro-46 ). A Sig Somethin Extra would be a great choice and a bit nicer (and costlier). As mentioned earlier the 4-Star is also a good low wing tail-dragger.
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Get a Stick. Good first taildragger. Flys like a dream and lands like a dream also.
What part of that plane qualifies it as a low wing like he requested?
What part of "taildragger" do you not understand.
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Seagull Models Spacewalker. Low wing tail dragger that flies as easy as a trainer. 40 size 5 servos real simple. This is the one. Plus after you get the hang of it it will do aerobatics (simple) and all. It was my second and it is still in the hangar for those days I just feel like relaxing. Sure made the transition to warbirds easy.


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Get a Stick. Good first taildragger. Flys like a dream and lands like a dream also.
What part of that plane qualifies it as a low wing like he requested?
What part of "taildragger" do you not understand.
Just wait 'til after the first crash put it back together with the fin on the bottom gear on the top and PRESTO a low wing tail draggin sweet nlow stick
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Default RE: First low wing / Tail dragger, which do I buy?

There are lots of really good choices are available that haven't been mentioned yet for a tail-dragger, low-wing "second" plane. Because you have flown a Nexstar and a Sig LT-40, I'm going to guess that price isn't your primary consideration and that you don't mind spending a little extra for a quality airplane. I'm also going to guess that you're looking for another ARF like your Nexstar, because you didn't specifically ask for a kit.

Lastly, both of your previously mentioned planes are large for their class with 69" to 70" wingspans. I would recommend that you stick with another larger aircraft so it's stability and visibility will be similar to what you've already been flying. You're moving up to a more agile aircraft, so getting something smaller and harder to see at the same time doesn't make sense.

Based on all of these criteria, I can recommend three very good choices for a stable, easy-to-land sport plane with which you can learn additional aerobatics:

1) Sig Four Star .60 ARF

2) Goldberg Tiger .60 ARF converted to tail-dragger setup (Goldberg actually sells a kit specifically for this conversion)

3) The Ace Hobby Cloud Dancer .60 ARF



The Cloud Dancer .60 ARF is the least known of the three, but is readily available from most any Thunder Tiger reseller such as your local hobby store or http://www.thundertiger4u.com

Good luck and good shopping!
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Get a Stick. Good first taildragger. Flys like a dream and lands like a dream also.
What part of that plane qualifies it as a low wing like he requested?
What part of "taildragger" do you not understand.
He saids he wanted it to be BOTH a low wing AND a tail dragger
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Just thought I'd post this I found as was looking at the Pulse te other week and there are some good vids !!
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632497
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While you're figuring out what to buy, take a few minutes and convert your LT-40 to a taildragger. I was going to say you won't need to buy anything but a tailwheel, but I forgot the new Sig's have the wire landing gear, not the old bent aluminum. You won't get exactally low wing aerobatic performance, but at least you'll get used to flying a taildragger with a plane you're already familiar with. Plus it's a fun afternoon project, and it's something different.


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You could consider a mid-wing like a Lanier Stinger 60. I had one with a saito 125 and it flew great, landed easily and could do almost anything.
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I am currently flying a NexStar and a LT-40. I am wanting to step up to a low wing. I have gotten many suggestions at my club but am having a problem in narrowing it down. I have been looking at a Seagull's Spacewalker, Hanger 9 Pulse XT 40, or a GP Super Sportster 40. I just want to be able to do more than my high wing trainers are giving me but at the same time I don't want to get in over my head. I feel I am ready to try a tail dragger. Any thoughts or suggestions?

Thanks for your help.
Out of the 3 you listed I would go for the GP Super Sportster; primarily because I've never seen the other two at the field. I have seen the SS40 fly, and my brother has the SS60. They are very capable while not being too wild.
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I built a Cloud Dnacer 60 from plans and it has been a great plane! For a 40 size I would probably opt for a a Pulse.
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* cough * Sig Somethin' Extra





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This is my 2nd plane, flys great on a S/T .45. Retracts are installed and work really good..http://thewingsmaker.com/airplane_de...php?code=GA014
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* cough * Sig Somethin' Extra





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Yep. Picking one up tomorrow , ARF. in red. What do you guys think? GMS.47 Saito .56 or 72. This is replacing my Twist .40 with the .72 . I was being fearless , about 10 ft. off the deck, and smucked it. {Note to self, make sure to apply throttle after inverted snap roll when 10 ft off the ground. } Anyway , thought I try and SSE.
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Yep. Picking one up tomorrow , ARF. in red. What do you guys think? GMS.47 Saito .56 or 72.
If it was not my money, I'd say a Saito .72.

...about 10 ft. off the deck, and smucked it. {Note to self, make sure to apply throttle after inverted snap roll when 10 ft off the ground. }
That made me pucker right there... haven't thought about an inverted snap roll before... let alone while dragging my fin on the deck!

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