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Old 01-11-2009, 06:28 PM
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I have been flying helis for 2 year now.. Trex 250,500,600esp. I can manage those fairly well, doing mild 3d and sport flying.

My last plane was a gws slowstick about 4 years ago. I out of the hobby of airplanes because i had no room too fly, therefore my heli life began. I just recently found a club and an airfield that was hidden only 5 miles from my house!!! So i want to buy a plane.


I have a dx7 radio

What is a fairly decent sized airplane ELECTRIC ONLY, that i could manage fairly well? It needs to be able to do the loops and rolls, Im no 3D master, but i know if i get something too "beginnerish" I will be mad. I know I can handle it because of my heli skills.


Now what would you guys recommend? I will need everything short of a radio (DX7)

Thanks for your help!
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I've put together a list of planes that make good trainers and second planes. All of them on the list are proven planes that are well suited for successfully letting students learn to fly, or advance to a second plane. Check out the list here
[link=http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_4537845/tm.htm] Looking for a trainer- what's available. (Updated 01-03-2009) [/link]

Hope this helps

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So much nitro.. my eyes... aaaah!

I couldnt find electric in that list
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If you have the cash, and it will take some cash, you could do a conversion of a basic trainer over from glow to electric. There are a lot of people that have done that. But, as I said, it takes cash. Lots of it. Mainly because the weight to power will require a large electric motor, a high current ESC and a good size battery. You will be able to use standard servos.

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Come on... glow power is cool! All the planes on RCKen's list could be electric if you wanted them to be though. Most manufacturers have everything you need to convert readily available.

With your heli experience, I'd start with and advanced trainer. It won't quite be a beginners trainer but not quite an intermediate plane either. Some examples are the Hobbico Avistar, Hangar-9 Arrow and World Models Skyraider Mach-1. I think the Wings Maker Wingman-1 is similar to the World Models Mach-1 but ready for electric our of the box.

Another option might be the Parkzone T-28. It's not a beginner plane but not radically advanced either. Flying helicopters may have you prepared enough for it. Since you already have a good radio, lipo charger, etc. you could get the Plug-n-Play version and be flying in no time.

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=HAN2625
http://www.thewingsmaker.com/airplan...php?code=GA027
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXPY56&P=0
http://www.airbornemodels.com
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ4475
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Yep T-28 PNP, does everything you want....lots of commentary here and elsewhere. You can add flaps and retracts if you want. Read up on it. Rich
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no, the field i will be hopefully flying at and joining the club. Its electric only due to the neighbors land has horses.

Thats why. Dont ask questions lol, I know, I just have to be electric.
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Okay So i will order a : http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ4475

All i need is batteries and receivers now right?

What batteries should i use? 3S 2200'S? and will a spektrum ar6200 receiver do the job?

Am i missing anything?
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All that's needed to complete:

Radio, battery, charger, and receiver
Specs

* Wingspan:44 in (1118mm)
* Overall Length:36 in (914mm)
* Flying Weight:30 oz (875 g)
* Motor Size:PKZ 480 960Kv outrunner brushless motor
* Radio:Minimum 4-channel recommended (not included)
* Servos:3-wire servos (included)
* Trim Scheme Colors:White with black, red, and blue
* Prop Size:9.5 x 7.5
* Speed Control :E-flite 30A Pro Brushless ESC with Switch-Mode BEC (EFLA1030)
* Recommended Battery:Minimum 3-cell 1800mAh Li-Po battery (not included)
* X-Port:No
* Landing Gear:Wire nose gear and main gear, foam wheels
* Steering:Steerable nose gear

From the website.

The AR6100 is 6 ch. and only $49 vers. $79 for the 6200
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one more thing..

These : http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...00mAh_3S1P_20C

Or

These : http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=7641&Product_Name=ZIPPY_ 2200mAh_3S1P_25C__(X-Thin)

Or others?
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just watch your landing gear, two people in our club have these, they fly fine but HATE hard landings, gear pops out, but very simple to fix
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Marty,
I don't recommend this as a first trainer, it is VERY responsive, especially the elevator.
(It is a grat plane and I love mine, just not as a first plane.)
There are some good electric trainers out thers, I just don't know many of them.
I think there is an electric Kadet available.
Try going to the electric forum here and posting your question there.
Converting a 40 size trainer to electric will be very expensive.
Good Luck,
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thanks, but i really do feel i can handle and rc plane, I can do 3D on my helis, and i owned a slowstick 2 years ago and flew that well, I also have a sim fr my helis and fly airplanes sometimes.
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Go with the 20C zippy batteries linked above. I just bought several and couldn't be happier. They are the exact same size and weight of the Parkzone battery but with higher C-rating and lower cost.

The AR-6200 will work fine but is overkill. The 6100e would be my choice.

Someone mentioned weak landing gear... The gear mounts are held in the wing by what appears to be silicone adhesive and I have seen them pop out on hard landings. It can be beefed up with just a little tape around the plastic mount.

Use the recommended low throws at first and this will be a very gentle plane. It sounds like you'll be at a club so there will be plenty of people to help out.
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Okay So i will order a : http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=PKZ4475

All i need is batteries and receivers now right?

What batteries should i use? 3S 2200'S? and will a spektrum ar6200 receiver do the job?

Am i missing anything?
Good choice of planes, I wouldn't part with mine.
Hobbycity.com has Zippy Flightmax 2200mah 25c 3cells in stock right now for about $20. They work great. And yes, the 6200 rx should work fine. Make sure you check out the user ratings, build tips, and the "Parkzone T-28" thread for a lot of good info.
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Good choice of planes, I wouldn't part with mine.
Same here although my Parkzone Corsair seems to get a little more flying time lately. Horizon really hit a home run with both airplanes. I hope they come out with more like them.
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Marty55,
I think you would be ok with either the parkzone T-28 or Corsair. I own the T-28 and it was my 2nd plane, hz super cub 1st plane. I set the T-28 up to my dx7.
I did find the dx7 complicated, but I was a beginer. Just go over all the setting over and over, as I didnt, and did my first flight with ali. reveresed. The flight was still a success, but short. Just make your throws around 80% for your first few flight, because at 100% the plane is very responsive. All in all the T-28 has been a blast.
As for the rx, I use the ar6100 and the stock battery(11.1 1800mah)
Have fun and good luck[8D]
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I say get the plug and play corsair from parkzone. I just got mine last week and its a blast. You can put skids on the bottome of the plane and land on the grass and it looks more realistic while in the air. Both planes look funny with gear hanging. I think the corsair is supposed to be faster, and it is very hard to stall the thing unless you do it on purpose. The corsair(parkzone version) is easily a second plane, and since you can fly heli's, you can definitely fly this one. Good luck!
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Same here although my Parkzone Corsair seems to get a little more flying time lately. Horizon really hit a home run with both airplanes. I hope they come out with more like them.
I like my corsair too, but the the T-28 is a little easier for me to see when I'm really wringing it out, so if find myself flying it a little more. You make a good point, I wish Parkzone would come out with a P-38, P-40, F6F, etc that used the same hardware and performed as good as the T-28 and F4U.
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I think a P-47 would be a good candidate too since it has a similar fat fuselage that would lend itself well to the same style hatch, roominess inside, etc.
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Good point, I'd buy it if they came out with it.
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the classic trainer comes as either glow ,and electric but can't remember who makes it

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