I have a OS max FS70SII. I'd like to get a Cub just for a nice Lazy Sunday flyer. Which Cub, Hanger 9 or Great planes.

http://www.greatplanes.com/airplanes/gpma1311.html

http://www.hangar-9.com/Products/Def...ProdID=HAN4000


Thanks Guys.

Check out the J-3 cub from AK models, made by richmodel, 94.00 for a 71.5 wingspan and a really sweet flyer! I was doubtful but It truly is a great flying plane, You will need the landing gear from Hangar 9 for it though, the gear it comes with is pretty bad.
http://ak-models.com/mm5/merchant.mv...ode=NITRO46_65
I forgot to add that the aileron servos are recessed into the wings like the h9 and it is fairly well built, I did do a little reinforceing in some stress areas, fiberglass cowl and a decent scale appearance. just my .02 cant beat it for the price!

A good friend has one of the giant H9 Cubs and it is really something special; I get to see it all the time. The H9 cub is listed as a full pound lighter, and for me that would make the decision.

Both the Great Planes and the Hanger 9 are nice planes and great fliers. I have the GP and I have seen the H9. The H9 is slightly more scale looking but I went with the GP because I wanted the fabric covered arf. The GP floats around great . Easy takeoffs with a little rudder control and landings are nice and gentle.

I was going to mention the one pound difference and didn't think I should base my decision on just the weight even though I'd like too. If I had a Saito 82 I would lean toward the GP Cub.
Wow the AK is inexpensive and at 5.6 pounds will get pulled around well with the OS 70 4 stroker, may be too well.

Do you mind telling me what you have for a power plant. Thanks

Be wary of Richmond planes and products, For the most part they are CHEAP, dollar wise & quality wise. Ordering from them is a pain in the ass and god help you if you have any problems with your order. They are impossible to deal with. Their engine test stand is a piece of junk, and I bought their Beaver, even for the price it was not worth it.

AK models was great to deal with in my opinion, No I am not a 30 year rc flight veteran, so I have not seen the difference in quality from different arfs in this world. But I have to say I had no problems, I ordered the model and had it 3 days later, packaged well and the covering was tight and done well, yes I chose to beef up the model in a few key locations but I have not put one together yet that I havent had to fortify to some extent, I have no problems with GP or H9, they have good products. For me the price was right and I am very happy with the model. The weight listed is a little on the light side, after beefing up the lg and wing mounting locations, adding the H9 landing gear the plane weighed in around 8 lbs, I have a OS 46 fxi on it and it is by no means overpowered, It flys scale, I will likely go up to a 55 or 60 to have a little power to play with, all told though, Ive got 130.00 in the plane with the H9 gear and the extra materials to sturdy it up a little, and It has handled everything a newer pilot has put it through with very little damage. Just my 2 pennys!

I had the original H9 Cub with the one piece 80" wing for several yrs with a Saito 56. Everything was just right about it.

I've been around some of the new H9 Cubs and they are even better and much more scale like

BTW Richmond and Richmodel are two completely different companies, no affilitaion (though both are likely made in China with the rest of them)

Mikecam... sorry for the delay in answering your question. I am running an OS .46AX with a Slimline Pitts style muffler. Not true scale sound but not too bad either. The .46AX has gobs of power to push this bird through the air. It will fly nice and slow at 2 clicks above idle.

Cheers
Curt

H9 with a OS 70 is hard to beat.

The old original H9 80" Cub had wooden beam mounts for a horizontal engine and a one piece wing

The new one has a radial engine mount at a 45 degree angle to put the muffler underneath

I have the GP ARF Cub .40 , powered by a Saito .65. The Saito is more than sufficient and the GP Cub is a gentle flyer.

A few years ago I had a Kyosho ARF .40 Cub. It's wingspan was a little smaller than the GP offering, but it it also had "fabric" covering and the undercart was very scale, unlike the GP ARF Cub' undercart.

The Kyosho Cub had an ancient (20 rears old) Super Tigre .60 ringed 2 stroke up front and it flew the model at less than 1/2 power. I loved it. However its weakness was the horizontal stab which was easily cracked, where it joined the fuselage, by the slightest knock.

Then some low life stole the model!

The GP Cub was the replacement and I am quite happy with it. The hardware in the GP Kit is 1st class naturally, being all Great Planes stuff. The only ARF I have had where I have not had to substitute supplied components for better quality bits and pieces.

OK so I don't have any experience with the AK model. But one thing I feel I need to mention here.

You added 2.5 POUNDS of beef before you felt it was airworthy???? I think that pretty much confirms what the other gentlemen said about it. Poor quality. I got 2.5 lbs from the fact that the site states 5.5 lbs you said it weighed in at 8.
Now if it was a built up model of this size 2.5 lbs would still raise eyebrows, but on an ARF if it comes in 2.5 lbs over weight, well thats just alarming.

Ordered the GP Cub. I went thru all the manuals online and just like how the great planes cub goes together. Plus A friend gave me the float ARF's that go with this cub. Thanks for the advice.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXEKH0&P=SM

I have the GP .60 size kit. It flies great you won't regret getting this one.
I fly mine on a supertiger 75 with a 13X6 prop really flies nice at 1/2 throttle but open it up and point the nose up and it climbs like a raped ape.
She will roll out in about a plane length when landed in to a modest wind. You'll have fun

They are both good and really nice. But for scale looks and that nice feature that Hanger 9 has to take apart the wings for transport... my vote is for the Hanger 9 Cub.

I need to know where you get your model parts! Because in my part of the world servos, engines, batteries, and flight gear weigh something! Im not working for richmodel or AK, But what kind of moron is going to try and sit here and force feed to all of us that theres 2.5 extra pounds of wood and epoxy in a plane that I beefed up a little? Im new to the hobby but Im not an idiot! If you dont like to read my opinion on something then dont read It! 130.00 dollars for a nice sized plane is a good price for me, But hey smoke em if you got em, If I had the budget I would have a H9 too, but not all of us are rolling in cash. But you dont need to come on here and bash me for posting my opinion on a arf.

I didn't bash your opinion on an ARF or any thing else.

I will however point out the obvious to you since you asked.

"weight" as advertised by the manufacturer is generally FLYING weight. that is servos, recievers, fuel tanks, wheels, etc.etc.etc.

You said you added the weight beefing it up not me. installing the radio is not beefing it up.

2.5 LBS of wood and epoxy IS the impression YOU left, not me. I wasn't questioning you on the need for this extra work, just saying that IF it was necessary well then...

I didn't call you an idiot, please don't put words in my mouth. And please don't try to suggest that I am a moron for reading YOUR words.

And one final question for you, dear sir. How in name of all that is holy am I supposed to know that your opinion isn't worth reading till after I read it??? You didn't think that through did you.

Any way have a nice day.

It must be really lonely being you. nuff said

married, 5 kids. not ever lonely.

Seems odd though that you call me a moron for voicing my opinion in the same breath that you tell me not to bash you for yours.
You ever consider politics?

I have the same plane with the same engine and its a great combination. I can idle it right down for slow flying and at full its a very powerfull flying model. It won't go stright up , but climbs very well

I had to set the ailarons up as spoilerons, to keep it on the ground when landing. It keep wanted to jump back up into the air and we had corn all around us.

sticks

I also have the H9 cub. I have a Supertiger 45 in mine, and that is lots of power for a cub. 4 stoke would be a lot nicer sound. This is the second H9 ARF i have bought. I also have a H9 P51 PTS trainer with a ST 51. I do have one issue, and part of it is because I didn't know better, you kinda learn as you go with this sport somtimes but these forums really help. The plastic Kwik Link connectors that come with the H9 kits can be a problem for the beginner. I had one of these fail in flight on an aileron. I was able to land the plane after some tense moments to say the least. The small plastic pin was still in the control horn but broke out of the kwik link connector. I feel that I caussed the plastic fatigue during set up. Care needs to be taken not to put any stress on these pins during opening or closing the link or just pushing the pin through the horn holes. I have since changed all my models to metal clevises with metal retainer clips just to be safe. Both my H9 planes fly well and look good to boot. Recently I set my cub up with flapperons, but have not had a chance to try it yet. Maybe spoilerons would be better to get this bird to stop floating.

A saito 56 will idle all day and never load up. With a APC 13-4, the engine will idle low enough to almost act as a brake and yet have plenty of speed for a J-3