Pattern Flying
06-30-2009 | 11:01 PM
#1
Pattern Flying
This past weekend I went to a pattern (precision aerobatics) meet in Goshen NY. One of the best pilots in the country competes in my district (D1- north east) and was there, and a friend managed to get his routine on video.
This is the international level "FAI" and this is the harder of their two routines. It starts (after a couple of trim passes and a cuban 8 to get into position) with a rolling loop with 2 rolls, in reversed directions. It ends with two snaps on a down line in opposite directions and I'm amazed at how pretty he makes them and how he ends up perfectly on his line. *Please note: the takeoff procedure is a different pilot with a different plane(glow), but the rolling loops on is the right pilot (electric).
Pattern flying is fun and challenging and adds a nice new dimension to flying - we always have something to practice and it really helps overall flying skills. Many of the best 3D pilots actually started out flying pattern, and many of them still compete. Competition is really friendly and it's really about improving your own skills. I have met some really great people in the pattern scene and am really thankful for learning about the whole thing on this site.
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pREmry-SE
(Here's my sorry but competing in the beginner's class for anyone interested...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDupIvy2o0
This is the international level "FAI" and this is the harder of their two routines. It starts (after a couple of trim passes and a cuban 8 to get into position) with a rolling loop with 2 rolls, in reversed directions. It ends with two snaps on a down line in opposite directions and I'm amazed at how pretty he makes them and how he ends up perfectly on his line. *Please note: the takeoff procedure is a different pilot with a different plane(glow), but the rolling loops on is the right pilot (electric).
Pattern flying is fun and challenging and adds a nice new dimension to flying - we always have something to practice and it really helps overall flying skills. Many of the best 3D pilots actually started out flying pattern, and many of them still compete. Competition is really friendly and it's really about improving your own skills. I have met some really great people in the pattern scene and am really thankful for learning about the whole thing on this site.
Enjoy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-pREmry-SE
(Here's my sorry but competing in the beginner's class for anyone interested...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIDupIvy2o0
06-30-2009 | 11:21 PM
#2
Senior Member
RE: Pattern Flying
I am trying pattern and its trying my patience ... its hard and its nuts. Even trying to fly straight with simple 1/2 Reversed Cubans for a turn around is a real chore. Its a whole world of its own. Need patience, perseverance, practice practice and practice ... of course a good tutor really helps.
06-30-2009 | 11:23 PM
#4
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: tIANci
I am trying pattern and its trying my patience ... its hard and its nuts. Even trying to fly straight with simple 1/2 Reversed Cubans for a turn around is a real chore. Its a whole world of its own. Need patience, perseverance, practice practice and practice ... of course a good tutor really helps.
I am trying pattern and its trying my patience ... its hard and its nuts. Even trying to fly straight with simple 1/2 Reversed Cubans for a turn around is a real chore. Its a whole world of its own. Need patience, perseverance, practice practice and practice ... of course a good tutor really helps.
A drum of fuel or two wouldn't hurt either.
06-30-2009 | 11:26 PM
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RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: jrcaster
A drum of fuel or two wouldn't hurt either.
ORIGINAL: tIANci
I am trying pattern and its trying my patience ... its hard and its nuts. Even trying to fly straight with simple 1/2 Reversed Cubans for a turn around is a real chore. Its a whole world of its own. Need patience, perseverance, practice practice and practice ... of course a good tutor really helps.
I am trying pattern and its trying my patience ... its hard and its nuts. Even trying to fly straight with simple 1/2 Reversed Cubans for a turn around is a real chore. Its a whole world of its own. Need patience, perseverance, practice practice and practice ... of course a good tutor really helps.
A drum of fuel or two wouldn't hurt either.
06-30-2009 | 11:29 PM
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RE: Pattern Flying
HA! LOL LOL! I wish I could take off a showtime 50 and get back a 40%!!!
ORIGINAL: jrcaster
The only thing I found wrong with the first video is that it was an Astral when it took off, and a Prestige when it landed.
Congrats on second!
The only thing I found wrong with the first video is that it was an Astral when it took off, and a Prestige when it landed.
Congrats on second!
06-30-2009 | 11:30 PM
#9
RE: Pattern Flying
Yeah I don't know how/why the Astral got in there - Dave flies electric.
And yes, he is darn smooth =)
Thanks for the props. I came in second twice this year to the same guy. I'll fly against him two more times, and if I beat him I'm treating myself to a much nicer pattern ship =) Unfortunately my Venus didn't turn into the Pinnacle I've been dreaming about
And yes, he is darn smooth =)
Thanks for the props. I came in second twice this year to the same guy. I'll fly against him two more times, and if I beat him I'm treating myself to a much nicer pattern ship =) Unfortunately my Venus didn't turn into the Pinnacle I've been dreaming about
07-01-2009 | 01:53 AM
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RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
Yeah I don't know how/why the Astral got in there - Dave flies electric.
And yes, he is darn smooth =)
Thanks for the props. I came in second twice this year to the same guy. I'll fly against him two more times, and if I beat him I'm treating myself to a much nicer pattern ship =) Unfortunately my Venus didn't turn into the Pinnacle I've been dreaming about
Yeah I don't know how/why the Astral got in there - Dave flies electric.
And yes, he is darn smooth =)
Thanks for the props. I came in second twice this year to the same guy. I'll fly against him two more times, and if I beat him I'm treating myself to a much nicer pattern ship =) Unfortunately my Venus didn't turn into the Pinnacle I've been dreaming about
07-01-2009 | 06:28 AM
#13
RE: Pattern Flying
Boy, Joe has come a long way in just a short period of time. Congrats!!!!! CGR, 1 egg basted soft, homemade crumpets, spicy sausage and chock full of nuts coffee. I saved you some.
07-01-2009 | 06:55 AM
#14
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Did you say you were flying in the same class as Dave Lockhart, FAI, now?
That was quick.
One of the best pilots in the country competes in my division and was there, and a friend managed to get his routine on video.
That was quick.
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
07-01-2009 | 11:57 AM
#16
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
This weekend (5/10/2009) is/was my one year anniversary of RC flight, and it was a lot of fun. As most of you know, I've gotten into pattern flying.
This weekend (5/10/2009) is/was my one year anniversary of RC flight, and it was a lot of fun. As most of you know, I've gotten into pattern flying.
Congratulations!!
Your dedication and progress, in just a little more than one year of RC flying, is really impressive.
Nice flying![sm=thumbs_up.gif]
07-01-2009 | 12:20 PM
#17
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RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Did you say you were flying in the same class as Dave Lockhart, FAI, now?
That was quick.
One of the best pilots in the country competes in my division and was there, and a friend managed to get his routine on video.
That was quick.
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
That would be a maneuver for the F09 schedule. They also have some form of a combination of a loop rolls, kinda like a vertical rolling circle.
07-01-2009 | 12:52 PM
#18
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: tIANci
That would be a maneuver for the F09 schedule. They also have some form of a combination of a loop rolls, kinda like a vertical rolling circle.
ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Did you say you were flying in the same class as Dave Lockhart, FAI, now?
That was quick.
One of the best pilots in the country competes in my division and was there, and a friend managed to get his routine on video.
That was quick.
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
That would be a maneuver for the F09 schedule. They also have some form of a combination of a loop rolls, kinda like a vertical rolling circle.
07-01-2009 | 02:07 PM
#19
RE: Pattern Flying
I saw him maiden a glow Sundowner that was sent to him by Horizon to show at some fair...the first thing he did was take off into a rolling circle about 15ft off the deck.
I haven't seen him with the foamies or anything but I heard it's a sight.
I haven't seen him with the foamies or anything but I heard it's a sight.
07-01-2009 | 02:39 PM
#20
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: gaRCfield
I saw him maiden a glow Sundowner that was sent to him by Horizon to show at some fair...the first thing he did was take off into a rolling circle about 15ft off the deck.
I haven't seen him with the foamies or anything but I heard it's a sight.
I saw him maiden a glow Sundowner that was sent to him by Horizon to show at some fair...the first thing he did was take off into a rolling circle about 15ft off the deck.
I haven't seen him with the foamies or anything but I heard it's a sight.
would you happen to know what servos he uses in his ailerons?
07-01-2009 | 02:54 PM
#22
RE: Pattern Flying
Stupid question. Can you fly pattern with a stick? if not I might have to build a more patternly ship and play a bit.. (Anything to make my maneuvers more precise and purpose looking versus "hey that was cool how'd you do it?" "No clue, lets see if i can do it again"
07-01-2009 | 03:00 PM
#23
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: tIANci
That would be a maneuver for the F09 schedule. They also have some form of a combination of a loop rolls, kinda like a vertical rolling circle.
ORIGINAL: MetallicaJunkie
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
ORIGINAL: CGRetired
Did you say you were flying in the same class as Dave Lockhart, FAI, now?
That was quick.
One of the best pilots in the country competes in my division and was there, and a friend managed to get his routine on video.
That was quick.
Im assuming he meant the same district
Wow that KE loop Dave did was awesome, ive never seen one done in a pattern comp
That would be a maneuver for the F09 schedule. They also have some form of a combination of a loop rolls, kinda like a vertical rolling circle.
The maneuver that you are referring to is called a rolling loop with two reversed integrated rolls. It has a K-factor of 5.
07-01-2009 | 04:06 PM
#24
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RE: Pattern Flying
Dave is a member of our club. He practices there regularly. I saw him hand launch... a high-wing "trainer" and put it through some maneuvers I didn't even know were "in the books". He's quite an event in his own right!
Then he did one of his horizontal rolling loops followed IMMEDIATELY by a vertical rolling loop.. or was it the other way around.. doesn't matter... quite a show.
CGr.
Then he did one of his horizontal rolling loops followed IMMEDIATELY by a vertical rolling loop.. or was it the other way around.. doesn't matter... quite a show.
CGr.
07-01-2009 | 05:47 PM
#25
RE: Pattern Flying
ORIGINAL: Adui
Stupid question. Can you fly pattern with a stick?
Stupid question. Can you fly pattern with a stick?
If im not mistaken, the Ugly Stick was designed by Phil Kraft in the 60's to compete in pattern.
