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bisco 01-07-2021 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12655582)
Time to move up to a full fledged trainer that doesn't flutter as much. Otherwise, looked fairly good

thanks!
i think i need a carbon fiber spar.

can you recommend a trainer? i have been flying the hobbyzone aeroscout, and i am currently preparing a hobbyking axn glider, and an e-flite umx turbo timber

Hydro Junkie 01-07-2021 12:24 PM

You can't go wrong with a Kadet. I'm working on two right now, both plans built Juniors

bisco 01-07-2021 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12655585)
You can't go wrong with a Kadet. I'm working on two right now, both plans built Juniors

thank you,

i have a very small flying area, as you can see, surrounded by trees, houses and roads. can you recommend a vendor, and do they make a 42" w/s or smaller?

bisco 01-07-2021 12:34 PM

i found the sig site, but i'm not sure investing a couple hundred dollars into another high wing trainer is going to help improve my flying skills.

Hydro Junkie 01-07-2021 01:26 PM

You could be looking at the Four Star 20 electric:
https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...star-20-ep-kit
or maybe and Astro-Hog:
https://sigmfg.com/collections/sig-k...-astro-hog-kit

bisco 01-07-2021 02:20 PM

i might be able to fly the 4 star 20 at the field. i have been looking for a balsa kit to build over the winter. last one was 25 years ago, thanks!

Hydro Junkie 01-07-2021 02:36 PM

I was figuring that would be small enough, not to mention it is electric, so it will perform similar to what you're used to flying

bisco 01-07-2021 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12655608)
I was figuring that would be small enough, not to mention it is electric, so it will perform similar to what you're used to flying

may i ask where you get the required accessories?

Hydro Junkie 01-07-2021 04:23 PM

Tower Hobbies would have much of what you would need, depending on the brand you prefer

bisco 01-07-2021 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12655630)
Tower Hobbies would have much of what you would need, depending on the brand you prefer

thanks! i know nothing about brands, everything from value hobby so far

speedracerntrixie 01-07-2021 06:55 PM

For motors, ESCs and batteries check out Aloft Hobbies. I have had great success with the Dualsky brand of motors and ESCs. Servos either Futaba or Hitec standard digital. Some will say that analog servos would be just fine and they would be correct but for just a few dollars more you get more precision with digitals.

As far as flying goes, I find it best to set goals. All depends on what skill level you want to pursue.


https://alofthobbies.com/

bisco 01-07-2021 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12655672)
For motors, ESCs and batteries check out Aloft Hobbies. I have had great success with the Dualsky brand of motors and ESCs. Servos either Futaba or Hitec standard digital. Some will say that analog servos would be just fine and they would be correct but for just a few dollars more you get more precision with digitals.

As far as flying goes, I find it best to set goals. All depends on what skill level you want to pursue.


https://alofthobbies.com/

thanks!
i just want to pursue the next level, whatever that may be. i need a lot more experience on the high wing trainers before moving up.
i just like putzing around the sky right now, trying to keep her level and going where i want her to go. when i can do that without thinking about it, i will be ready to move to a lower wing plane i hope.

Hydro Junkie 01-08-2021 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by bisco (Post 12655674)
thanks!
i just want to pursue the next level, whatever that may be. i need a lot more experience on the high wing trainers before moving up.
i just like putzing around the sky right now, trying to keep her level and going where i want her to go. when i can do that without thinking about it, i will be ready to move to a lower wing plane i hope.

Okay, I'm confused. You said in your last post that you need more time on a high wing trainer but earlier yesterday, you said you didn't think it was cost effective to buy/build one. What am I missing here?

Hydro Junkie 01-08-2021 08:03 AM

One thing I forgot. Most of the Sig planes are built the same way so it's easy to learn with them

bisco 01-08-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Hydro Junkie (Post 12655749)
Okay, I'm confused. You said in your last post that you need more time on a high wing trainer but earlier yesterday, you said you didn't think it was cost effective to buy/build one. What am I missing here?

i already have 4 high wing trainers plus the yak, so there's no point in getting another. i'm not capable of flying the sig low wing confidently yet, and i wouldn't want to try to fly it before i had confidence in my ability, and crash needlessly.
i wouldn't mind building it this winter though, so it is ready to go when i am.

Hydro Junkie 01-08-2021 11:05 AM

Okay, that completed the puzzle.

speedracerntrixie 01-09-2021 06:57 AM

I would suggest continuing to fly what you have but set some goals. The first goal I would set is to fly an oval while focusing on keeping a constant altitude and the front and back of the oval at the same depth. Once you can do that in one direction learn to do in in the opposite direction. This will really make your skill level take a huge leap. I know guys who have been flying for decades that can't do nice ovals both directions. It's not that they can't, it's that they have never set any goals. They fly by letting the airplane lead them and all control inputs are reactionary instead of proactive. Here is a video of me flying one of my large models. It's a bit shaky but the thing that I want to point out is that each pass is the close to the same distance out from the runway. It is also an airplane that had several hundred flights on and the settings/adjustments were spot on which makes this type of flying much easier.



bisco 01-09-2021 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by speedracerntrixie (Post 12655949)
I would suggest continuing to fly what you have but set some goals. The first goal I would set is to fly an oval while focusing on keeping a constant altitude and the front and back of the oval at the same depth. Once you can do that in one direction learn to do in in the opposite direction. This will really make your skill level take a huge leap. I know guys who have been flying for decades that can't do nice ovals both directions. It's not that they can't, it's that they have never set any goals. They fly by letting the airplane lead them and all control inputs are reactionary instead of proactive. Here is a video of me flying one of my large models. It's a bit shaky but the thing that I want to point out is that each pass is the close to the same distance out from the runway. It is also an airplane that had several hundred flights on and the settings/adjustments were spot on which makes this type of flying much easier.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GQTLS6l28fo

nicely done!
that is a beautiful airplane. what is the w/s? i find the biggest prolem with smaller models is wind. it causes elevation changes as you turn, and can make it difficult to keep turns smooth.
i have been mostly trying to practice figure eights in both directions, i will try the ovals, thank you!


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