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I have a Hitec 555 receiver, 4 S3004 servos, and a .25 sized motor with nothing to put them in. I really want a plane that I can just fly and not worry about. I spent a lot of time bulding my LT-40 (from a kit). Everytime I fly it my knuckles are a bit white. This is exacerbated because it is the only airworthy airplane that I have at the moment. So I want another fun plane that will be somewhat dispensible if I crash.

My intention is to put a bigger fuel tank into this Cub, probably a 10oz if it will fit (if it won't, at least the biggest it'll hold). I don't mind if it dogs a bit in the air, as long as its pretty stable....I just want to be able to get 25 to 30 min flights. I have a little OS MAX .25 motor, so it should really sip the fuel.

Any body flown this plane, or have one?

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I acually ordered a .25 sized cub like that off of ebay...I bought a thunder tiger .25 for it but never built it because didnt have the tools or the skills reguired to build it. so I ended up getting the nexstar..I really like cubs though...I wonder...is this global kit better in quallity? .....

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Be aware that Cubs are not that easy to fly.

MANY PEOPLE do not suggest a Cub until you are ready for a 3rd plane (or later).

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I'd say go for it.... but get some more "white knuckle" time in on the LT-40 before flying the cub. As always, have someone more experienced at the field look it over(and test fly it if you have any doubts or even slightly nervous)

Cubs aren't all that hard to fly, but they do have some quirks... before you get it, read everything you can about cubs in general, and especially this one. (search, search, search).
:D

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I would second what Campy has posted. In addition stuffing a 10 ounce tank in that airplane would be problamatical at best even if you get it in (this made difficult by the fact it would require you to cut away most of the instrument panel area and possibly still not get it high enough for proper needlespraybar/tank height relationship).

Most of the time when oversized tanks are used and the proper height relationship is ignored those little venturi's and muffler pressure of the small engines is hard pressed to deliver the entire capacity of the tank. This frequently results in flameouts with plenty of fuel still aboard.

John

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Well, then, I'll go with the stock 6 oz. That ought to run it for a 15 min flight anyway...can always refuel and go again.

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That would be a wise decision.

John;)

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Why not try a Shark SPAD coroplast plane? http://www.engine-display.com/, he sells these in kit, arf, and rtf versions from $29.
I fly two of his Shark designs and love it with a .25 engine. At our Sebastian club, he's sold over ten of these to local guys and they race with them. These are durable, cheap, and very easy to fly at any speed, unlike many other SPAD designs out there.

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yes i have a comment, i wont that plane to,lol:)

its a very nice plaane m8.

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I am going to give it a shot anyway. I dont mind an extra challenge. It'll at the very least give me another flyable airplane to mess with. I'll go up on the buddy box with it several times....continue to build my confidence with the LT-40 and just have fun.

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This is what started the post, and not we're up to a challenge? Wow. You forgot about your knuckles a few days later?

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Here's what I mean:

I wanted a fun, simple, cheap, and somewhat disposable airplane to bolt some existing equipment that I already had to. Based on some research, I elected to get the cub. Then, I was told by some here that it is a bit of a challange to fly and has some quirks....but, since it is already on the way to me, I am not going to return it now. Instead, I'll build it and have a good time with it like I intended. However, in light of the fact that it could have a few surprises under its wings, I'll buddy box a bit until I get the hang of it.

Get it?

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Got it. He's going to do it his way. Sorry I replied to this attitude. These types need to crash to learn.

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What attitude???
The only attitude I seen was about two post earlier...get it? :D

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You didn't get it.

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lol.

What have I got to learn in your opinion?....that a crash would teach me?

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I think you're making it difficult for yourself trying to make a Cub a trainer.

You posted here for advice, then ignored the advice. I certainly gain nothing giving you advice yet you rather tough it out. I have a five year old who doesn't listen either.

I would strongly urge you to put the Cub on a shelf and get your LT-40 or similar trainer and put some flights on those, many flights until you get your take off and landings down. Then you can graduate to a tail dragger and a great second plane is a SIG Four Star, far more predictable than a Cub and that would be your second plane.
So, you want a Cub for a trainer, the crash will open your eyes. I've seen those pilots too, they go in over-confident and fail at great expense to their invested building time and cost of the kit. Just take everything now and throw it hard on the driveway, you're chances are better now to save something.

Trainers are called that for a reason and they have a valuable place in the hobby to break in a pilot. If you want a tail dragger for a trainer, well, you could find a Telemaster with very good flying characteristics and be just one step behind the Cub. You need some dihedral with a flat bottom wing, longer than normal wingspan, and small control surfaces. The better the CG, the better the flight.

Hey it's just my opinion, everyone has one. Tower has a trainer ARF for $49 on the scratch and dent section, there is a cheap way to have a knock around plane. If the LT 40 makes you nervous, the Cub will give you a stroke. Try reading Flying Basics here:

http://www.easyrc.com/airplanes/index.html#fly

Then read:

http://www.easyrc.com/airplanes/airplanes4.html

They specifically state once you master a trainer, this would be a next step, and even that is an opinion.

Here is yet another source that specifically addresses the Cub trainer philosophy:

http://www.modelaircraft.org/mag/FTG...19/19main.html

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get a sonic low wing trainer from tower. I have one, very easy to fly

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How does a low wing help someone who is nervous with a LT-40 shoulder wing trainer? He needs something slow and easy and cheap to fly. A second hand plane is good. I suppose when some people have been flying for a long time, they forgot what it was like to start out. I teach my kids to fly, so I taught them on a Butterfly with a .20 on it, just a simple three channel plane that gives you several seconds to correct. I wouldn't put anyone in a low wing trainer who is having trouble with a LT-40.
The references above explain why.

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HE SAID he was going to be buddy boxed on the plane and it is a tricycle gear and the ground handling is as easy as a trainer. And on a buddy box there should be no trouble with the cub. As long as the instructor is doing his job.

I missed the part where he already ordered the cub so I guess the damage is done.

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Bryris:

You aren't going to find what you want in a balsa plane. However, if you like flyin', like I do, and hate buildin' and fixin', then this is what you need:

www.FXHobbies.com

www.SpadFlyer.com

Ciao,

Mr Akimoto

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krosypal,

I really don't appreciate your indirect criticisms. If you want to cut me down or call me other things along the lines of a 5 year old, I'm afraid I can't be bothered.

Briefly..as talking to you is a waste of my time....

I have been flying the LT-40 with good success. I can safely fly the airplane with no problems, but am still working on consistency and more perfection (spot landings, dead sticks, etc). The reason I get a bit nervous with the LT-40 is because I built it from a kit, and it was my first.

In light of the fact that I have already purchased the cub....I will build it and fly it...WITH A BUDDY BOX FIRST!...to see for myself how it handles. If it seems squirrly, I will make a real-time judgement call on whether it should be benched for a while or not.

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Thats not the point I felt was in my response, but if you're so sensitive to turn it into a bashing somehow, I'm sorry. Enjoy your Cub and clarifying the level of flyer you are.

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It arrived today and in good condition. Seems to be missing a music wire w/ Z bend....but perhaps I lost it. I'll get a new one of those.

I am happy with the quality of the ARF so far. I am going to add some glue here and there on the critical parts. But, the Ultracote (or Monocote - the box refers to it being covered with both :)) all looks good with very few wrinkles. All in all, it looks like pretty quality workmanship.

I am going to start putting it together maybe tomorrow and just work a tad each night until its done.

lol....this thing will fit in my car trunk without removing the wing. Thats funny! Its only a .25.

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<<I just want to be able to get 25 to 30 min flights. >>

Consider a powered glider, or the Dynaflite Butterfly.

I figure when I fly I get three 15 minute flights before I start to worry about the receiver battery. If you fly 30 minutes, and try a second flight on the same batteries, you might be stretching the limits. Not only that, but a plane that balances out a "15 minute" tank is going to move towards tail heaviness if you trim it out for a "30 minute" tank. You're going to have to decide between squirrely take offs or squirrely landings. It would be even worse with a tail dragger. To get a heavy tank in the air you'd have to balance it at the back extreme, and tail heavy is a handful in any aircraft.

The Cub is not a trainer. Landing gear is narrow, tail dragger means you need rudder input when taking off, crosswinds will ground-loop you. If you're looking for longer flights because you worry about landing an LT-40 you certainly won't like a Cub.