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I am looking to get another bi-plane, but do not know which one will suit me the best. I want something that will land easy, if you can really say that. I want one that will take a 91, or just smaller, four stroke.
I did have a Tiger Moth 60, but I just did not like it for some reason and I think it really was because I had it underpowered. I had a O.S.61 fx two stroke on it. I could fly the Tiger Moth just fine and landing was very easy for me, but it just did not do much else and I really felt it would fly the same as my cub does. I would like something like my 4* 60, in the way they fly, if their are any bi-planes that can match them. I am not wanting full 3-d or anything, but something easy and fun to fly. |
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I went from a Nexstar to a 4*40 to a Sig Hog Bipe. It runs very well on a 91 four stroke, and I found it to fly much better than my 4*. I'd highly recommend it.
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IMHO the best bipe out there for general all around flying, and for being an easy bipe to start out on, is the Sig Hog Bipe. I've had 3 Sig Pigs and I love them. They are a lot more forgiving than most other bipes, but still fly like a bipe. They look great. And they are an easy building plane. This plane seems like it was made for a 91 4-stroke engine. You won't be worry here for getting one.
Hope this helps Ken |
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Well I guess I will be going with a Sig Hog Bipe. And if it is as much fun to fly as a 4*, or more, it will be a great plane. Thanks guys.
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I hope it is, as I am nearing completion on mine. From what I have seen, most people are throwing a saito 100 in there. An OS 91 should pull it along very nicely though.
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I have the OS 91 4-stroke in mine and it's plenty of engine for it. The Saito 100 should be a nice fit as well.
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The picture that I use for my avatar is my current Hog Bipe. Here's a couple of pics of it.
Ken |
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Here's a nice build thread for the Sig Hog Bipe
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_25..._1/key_/tm.htm |
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Believe it or not, my GP Super Skybolt ARF can get real slow on landing, and at the same time is very aerobatic and takes a .91 4-strokes very easily.
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ORIGINAL: fadi81 Believe it or not, my GP Super Skybolt ARF can get real slow on landing, and at the same time is very aerobatic and takes a .91 4-strokes very easily. Ken |
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Hey Ken,
I want one of those "if I wanted to Hover..." decals. Where'd you get it? Stevel |
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I've got to cut some for a couple of other guys now too. PM me your address.
Ken |
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Well maybe I will go with the super skybolt since it is in an arf. I have not done a kit yet, but I am trying to find a good to do. I was really thinking of doing the slow poke sport as my first kit, but if the sig hog bipe is a good first kit I will just do it first. What do you guys think?
The reason I am thinking an arf right now is because I work two jobs, and the second job of mine is just getting ready to get going. I own my own lawn care service and it is about time to get started. (I know boo who, but it pays for my rc stuff.) I do have one good reply about the skybolt, what do the rest of you think, go for the skybolt arf now and build a hog bipe also? Or just go with the hog bipe even if it will be my first kit? |
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I`m a builder by nature, but I order this thru Tower $274.98 [link=http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LC1040&P=1]Skybolt[/link] I used a coupon and I cannot build it this cheap. I`m in the middle of 3 builds, one is a GP Ultimate 40 and it is taking me forever to get it done. I`m o.k. with one ARF in my fleet.
As far as building a bipe, the Sig kits are the easiest to build. |
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Well, I am stuck in the middle. I really want to build my own from a kit, but I know it will take me some time to do. The building part does not bother me, but the covering part is where I think I am going to have some problems. At least to make it look as good as evryones else.
Anyway, I am going to build one and then pray I am able to get it in the air and return it to the ground in one piece. Thats what it's all about isn't it. |
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Every time I fly I'm praying it gets up and down in one piece. And the maiden flight on something you worked on for two or three months is the worst.. :D
My maiden on the Hog Bipe was easy as pie though. It flew very easily and predictably. |
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ORIGINAL: brooke Well maybe I will go with the super skybolt since it is in an arf. I have not done a kit yet, but I am trying to find a good to do. I was really thinking of doing the slow poke sport as my first kit, but if the sig hog bipe is a good first kit I will just do it first. What do you guys think? The reason I am thinking an arf right now is because I work two jobs, and the second job of mine is just getting ready to get going. I own my own lawn care service and it is about time to get started. (I know boo who, but it pays for my rc stuff.) I do have one good reply about the skybolt, what do the rest of you think, go for the skybolt arf now and build a hog bipe also? Or just go with the hog bipe even if it will be my first kit? install the OS .91 surpass on it with a topflight 15x6 and you will see... |
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Jeeze Ken,you don't like heli's??? Here I am stayin' away from the pick on ken threads and now I see this!!!!!!!!!!!:D Thanks for all your previous advice and I was wondering could you help me set up my new elec. heli??
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Nice Bipe. I especially like"If I wanted to hover, I'd buy a helicopter!
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brooke, If you go with a Hog Bipe (and you should), may I suggest building a balsa cowl for it. I think it cleans up the looks from the "stock" front end.
Here's mine with a 91 OS 4-stroke. I need to move the CG back a bit this season to make it more spirited. As it is it will do a constant knife-edge no problem, but I want to be able to get it to flat spin. The 91 four stroke isn't unlimited but it's a great match for the plane. It'll "just" hover at about 95% throttle. It's not meant to be a hovering plane, but that gives you an idea of the power. |
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ORIGINAL: venom290 Jeeze Ken,you don't like heli's?? Ken |
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As far as covering goes, I was just as nervous. I didn't do anything fancy with mine but I wouldn't be afraid to try more on my next plane.
This was a scratch built from plans. I'm just learning to fly and not sure when I will maiden it. Ken, that is a awsome looking bipe. I would love to build one but the trueness of the wings worries me enough not to attempt it yet. Maybe as a third build. Those decals are awsome, please let me know where you got them. Del |
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ORIGINAL: Delbert Pierce Those decals are awsome, please let me know where you got them. Del Ken |
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Ken, why is there fuel tube wrapped around the muffler on your Hog Bipe ?
Or is the picture just misleading ? |
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ORIGINAL: chashint Ken, why is there fuel tube wrapped around the muffler on your Hog Bipe ? Or is the picture just misleading ? Ken |
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ORIGINAL: RCKen IMHO the best bipe out there for general all around flying, and for being an easy bipe to start out on, is the Sig Hog Bipe. I've had 3 Sig Pigs and I love them. They are a lot more forgiving than most other bipes, but still fly like a bipe. somegeek |
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Somegeek,
First off I just love the way a bipe looks in the air. Something about two wings just looks cool. Also, when you do a shallow dive without any power you can hear the wind whistling through those wings!!!!!!! Way cool. But flying characteristics.... They vary from bipe to bipe, just like single wing planes do. But a couple of the biggest differences between bipes and single wing planes are landing and slow flying. Most everybody when learning to fly learns to line up on the runway, chop the throttle, and let the plane settle to the runway. If you do that with a bipe you're more than likely going to be picking up a broken pieces of your plane because it's going to stall. With a bipe you need to learn to fly the plane down to the ground. As I just mentioned, stalling. Bipes do not stall gracefully. They don't stall, but rather just quit flying. And they usually quit flying in an ugly way. You have to learn how to recognize when you bipe is going to quit flying, and learn how to recover a stalled bipe. Ken |
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ORIGINAL: RCKen Most everybody when learning to fly learns to line up on the runway, chop the throttle, and let the plane settle to the runway. Ken He never wanted me to float the plane in for a landing. His favorite thing to say, "keep the nose down and keep it coming at you." |
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ORIGINAL: RCKen Somegeek, First off I just love the way a bipe looks in the air. Something about two wings just looks cool. Also, when you do a shallow dive without any power you can hear the wind whistling through those wings!!!!!!! Way cool. But flying characteristics.... They vary from bipe to bipe, just like single wing planes do. But a couple of the biggest differences between bipes and single wing planes are landing and slow flying. Most everybody when learning to fly learns to line up on the runway, chop the throttle, and let the plane settle to the runway. If you do that with a bipe you're more than likely going to be picking up a broken pieces of your plane because it's going to stall. With a bipe you need to learn to fly the plane down to the ground. As I just mentioned, stalling. Bipes do not stall gracefully. They don't stall, but rather just quit flying. And they usually quit flying in an ugly way. You have to learn how to recognize when you bipe is going to quit flying, and learn how to recover a stalled bipe. Ken Thanks, Ken. somegeek |
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Somegeek,
Tell you need to start on it early because has 2 wings and will take extra time to build!!!!!! Ken |
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ORIGINAL: RCKen Somegeek, Tell you need to start on it early because has 2 wings and will take extra time to build!!!!!! Ken "Baby - it's got two wings. It's like building two planes... I should really get started on this." somegeek |
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That's not too far from the truth. I tell everybody that the good thing about flying a bipe is that it's got two wings. The bad thing about building a bipe is that it's got two wings!!! [X(] [>:] :D:D
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But the good thing about flying a Bipe is that it has two wings... :D
Otherwise it's just not right! |
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Anyone have any experince with the Christian Eagle...I have always thought that was a beautiful plane.
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ORIGINAL: Lawdawg131 Anyone have any experince with the Christian Eagle...I have always thought that was a beautiful plane. Ken |
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It's Christen, not Christian. :)
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ORIGINAL: MikeL It's Christen, not Christian. :) You are absolutely correct, and my fingers made the same mistake too!!! :eek: Ken |
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WOW I have been calling the wrong thing for years ha ha...it is beautiful.
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I just got my first biplane. It's a World Models Ultimate .40 ARF. I usually prefer to build and I really didn't need another plane but I had some discounts I needed to use at the LHS and I came home with it. I've heard mixed opinions of this plane. Some say it is a handful and others say it's easy to fly. I'll find out for myself on Sunday. The .46-AX has a couple tanks of fuel through it and it's ready to go. I figure that if I can fly my Cap-232 and my old Sukhoi, I'll hopefully be OK with this one.
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Most of the people who have posted here that it's a "handful" to fly seem to be using the wrong prop. In other words the plane is brought in and flown too slowly, and tends to stall out on them. Use an 11x6 on your .46 and you'll have no problems, although it will seem to approach a bit faster than what you may be used to. That's ok, just keep it under a bit of power on landing. Keep your throws to the suggested initially until you get used to how it handles. For an Ultimate of such small size it flies very well and is fairly docile if not flown too slowly.... Stall it out on approach however and .... |
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