Does a .12 muffler differ from a .18 one?
#1
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Lemon Grove,
CA
I decided to ask this here, as I'm fairly sure this is engine related now. I have an RS4 evo 3. It ran fine when I got it, then I crashed it, which messed up the throttle lever arm, unbeknowsnt to me. I never could get the engine setting right in it, because I didn't realize the carb arm was loose and constantly moving. So, I thought I messed up the engine. I got a new HPI 18 SS engine for it. I never could get that engine to run right unless I put the carb from the stock T-15 on it(I bought a replacement for it after I bought the new motor.) Even then, the only way I could get it to run right is to remove the pressure return line from it. If I left it hooked up, it would run too rich, and I'd have to turn the mixture screw almost all the way in to get it to rev, then it was tricky to start. I eventually left the line off all the time because no matter what I did, the only way the engine would run right was if I left the return line off. I replaced everything remotely related. Fuel tank, both fuel lines, carbs. I checked for vacum leaks, none. I messed with the throttle linkages, and trims on the radio. I have even replaced the muffler with a stock for the RS4 Evo muffler because I broke the tip at one point. LIke I said, I eventually just left the line off. Last week, I decided to order a new engine for the car. I think I messed up the threads in the head, losing compression, because even with the line off, the car wasn't as fast.
Today I replaced the engine with the new one, an O.S. 18 CVRX. I got it all bolted in, tried to start it, and just about killed myself doing so. That sucker wouldn't start with the pull start. I then swapped the rotostart back plate from the old engine to make it easier. I finally got it started, but the thing would not keep running unless I turned the mixture screw in, which I did not want to do since it's a new motor. I had the return line hooked up at this time, thinking I would be able to have everything working correctly. When I couldn't get it to stay running unless I cranked the mixture screw in, I said screw it, and removed the line. VIOLA!!!!!! The idle shot way up. I had to turn the mixture screw out to where the manufacturer specs say to set it.
It must be because the larger engines need a larger muffler, because they are too restrictive for the larger motors. I've never seen anyone talk about this, and anyone I've asked was dumbfounded. Does anyone know?!?!?!?!?! I'm now going to buy a new muffler from O.S. in the hopes this will fix the problem.
Anyone??!?!?!
Today I replaced the engine with the new one, an O.S. 18 CVRX. I got it all bolted in, tried to start it, and just about killed myself doing so. That sucker wouldn't start with the pull start. I then swapped the rotostart back plate from the old engine to make it easier. I finally got it started, but the thing would not keep running unless I turned the mixture screw in, which I did not want to do since it's a new motor. I had the return line hooked up at this time, thinking I would be able to have everything working correctly. When I couldn't get it to stay running unless I cranked the mixture screw in, I said screw it, and removed the line. VIOLA!!!!!! The idle shot way up. I had to turn the mixture screw out to where the manufacturer specs say to set it.
It must be because the larger engines need a larger muffler, because they are too restrictive for the larger motors. I've never seen anyone talk about this, and anyone I've asked was dumbfounded. Does anyone know?!?!?!?!?! I'm now going to buy a new muffler from O.S. in the hopes this will fix the problem.
Anyone??!?!?!
#2
Junior Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: New City, NY
I used to run an rs4 3 evo with an the .18 cv-rx and the stock HPI pipe and never had a problem like the one you describe. Make sure the pressure line from the pipe to the fuel tank is at least 6 inches long, this reduces the effects of the exhaust pulses hitting the tank. I would also check to make sure the pipe is not jammed with anything, because it could be forcing all the exuast through the pressure line if the stinger is restricted.
#3
A .12 - .18 size tuned pipe should be fine. I believe a .15 size tuned pipe is no different than a .18 size.
Are you adjusting the LSN at all? To me it sounds like the LSN is set way too rich and you must turn the HSN in to compensate for this. Check to make sure before playing around with the LSN as I am not there to see what is actually wrong.
I always use the minimal amount of pressure line to my tank. Usually about 2 inches.
Ryan
Are you adjusting the LSN at all? To me it sounds like the LSN is set way too rich and you must turn the HSN in to compensate for this. Check to make sure before playing around with the LSN as I am not there to see what is actually wrong.
I always use the minimal amount of pressure line to my tank. Usually about 2 inches.
Ryan
#4
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Lemon Grove,
CA
Thanks for the replys. I am positive it's not that the stinger is plugged, because my last engine(the 18ss motor) ran this way with the original muffler, then I broke the tip off, so I bought a new one, and it ran the same. The return line is about 8 inches long. I will check the low speed needle. I didn't play with that. That's not the same as the idle screw is it? On the carb there is the idle, medium speed(I thought), and the high speed needle. I'll play with the other one just to make sure.
#5
It doesn't matter how long the exhaust pressure line is, although it looks better when cut just short enough to fit.
There is a high speed mixture needle, a low speed mixture needle and an idle adjustment screw. In some cases there is a medium mixture needle.
Ryan
There is a high speed mixture needle, a low speed mixture needle and an idle adjustment screw. In some cases there is a medium mixture needle.
Ryan
#6
Thread Starter
Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
From: Lemon Grove,
CA
Well, I played with the medium speed needle, but only because there was slight hesitation at part throttle. I still haven't reattached the return line. I'm going to play with the adjustment with the line reattached now, because messing with the needle only made the overall performace worse. I'm hoping with the return line connected correctlly, I can tune it correctly.
Does anyone know what the factory adjustment is on the medium speed needle on the O.S CVRX 18? I didn't check before I started fiddeling with things[:@], and I want to make sure I'm not running around in circles. It doesn't say in the manual.
Does anyone know what the factory adjustment is on the medium speed needle on the O.S CVRX 18? I didn't check before I started fiddeling with things[:@], and I want to make sure I'm not running around in circles. It doesn't say in the manual.




