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Old 10-28-2010, 10:22 PM
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Default Making Molds of Classic Pattern Plane Fuselages & Parts to Keep them Alive for all of us to Enjoy!

Well here we go again. I am making molds of all the Classic Pattern Planes that I have or that people send me to keep them alive and not forgotten. I'm making various parts and Fuselages for all the the long lost Pattern ships from the 70's and 80's . Repairing and rebuilding old parts can be very time consuming but needs to be done somtimes to create a usable plug to make a mold. When a unused part can be found then the mold making process is made much simplier.

One of the first that I recieved from Chris was the UFO which I had been looking for a very long time. This is the first mold and finished fuselage.
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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This is the EU1-A Mold made from Richards original along with the belly pan and pipe partition which you glass inside to create a separate pipe area. I think it best to also paint the inside of the pipe area with Ceramic Paint to protect it from the pipes heat.
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:25 PM
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Default RE: Making Molds of Classic Pattern Plane Fuselages & Parts to Keep them Alive for all of us to Enjoy!

Don,

well, I'm happy to be the first to reply. I'd like to express my continued enthusiasm for your excellent work and devotion to the preservation of these models. In time, I'm sure your efforts will be heartily rewarded.

With some luck, I hope to be able to source a fairly simple glass deck for a more recent Japanese classic (late '80's I believe) called the Skymaster. Both the 60 size and the 20 size are of interest but I am particularly fond of the smaller version designed to be powered with an inverted OS 25 VF, pipe under the deck and exhaust behind the wing TE. The concept is very similar to the deck of the Magic which you have already made. When finished building a couple of Mystics I hope to move on to the Skymaster 25. These smaller classics are not quite like their larger brethren but very enjoyable to fly and a little easier on the fuel budget.

Mold on!

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P.S. Pics missing from your post above!
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Thanks very much David. I added the pictures above . I have been hunting for the larger SKYMASTER for years. I would like to build it very much. I'm about to start building a WILD BEAT this winter. I got lots of help from dalh22 "David" who is the only one I know of that had the original kit. He sent me the Chin Cowl and Canopy so I could make molds. Then later he traced the rib patterns and sent them to me. I also have the plan on PDF file that I had Kinkos make a full size set of plans. So I guess I am about ready to go on it. I have a new OS 140RX and pipe that really needs a new home.

Ok I got the Pictures here for the Wild Beat Chin Cowl and it's mold, also the , mold for the pipe exit tunnel, and some shots of the Canopies that I made from .040" PETG very strong.
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Default RE: Making Molds of Classic Pattern Plane Fuselages & Parts to Keep them Alive for all of us to Enjoy!

The real work was to take this turtle deck for the MAGIC 60 and repair it so it could be a plug. Richard helped out with the part for Sunnyfler. I made the first mold only to discover that there was a wave in the side of the original part. I decided to do it all over. The second set of molds turned out perfect and the parts were made.
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I also made a MSTIC 20 cowl Thanks to Doxilla "David" with the original part.
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Atlanta60 "Chuck" came up with the AURORA 60 Belly Pan. This is a great looking plane that I can't wait to build. I got the plan on PDF and had it printed full size. Thanks again Chuck without guys like you helping I could never buld some of these great planes.
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I always flew this one and I'm sure all of you may have also. It's one of the first pattern planes I ever built. I never was lucky enough to have the fiberglass fuselage until now. The Dirty Bridi took a long time to sand and patch to make into a good plug but I finally got it done.
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The Speeda in a parting board, the Mold, and a finished fuselage made with white pigmented Epoxy Resin. The original fuselage used for a plug from Pitsop00"Paul" thanks very much to his effort to the cause we can build this great plane again.
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Phoenix 8 from Pitstop000 , thanks to Paul it lives! I could only find one picture of the mold. I'll take some of the finished fuselages and post them soon.
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Old 10-29-2010, 05:26 AM
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Don, i have a Skymaster. Atlanta 60 has the fuse, it is on his to do list for repairs. i have (mostly) stripped the wing and control surfaces of plastic cote and will glass and paint them someday. sounds like another shipment to Redondo Beach someday.
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That would be great. I've wanted one for a long time. If chuck doesn't have time I can do it for you. Chuck wrote me a few weeks ago and was going to send me a Beetle and a PA2 I believe it was but I have not gotten them yet. Maybe if we could get ahold of him he could sent all three in the same box to save on shipping. It would be great to make mold of those three great classics!
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FF - Awesome work! As David says, "Mold On!"

I have a Saturn fuse, a Cosmos 40 fuse (Atlanta 40 clone) and an Aurora 45 belly pan (yes FF, I know. I was to send this to you a few months ago. Please see your PM) that could be used for a mold if there is any interest. I also have an old Hartman Zeus fuse, but it'll need a lot of work to be useable for a mold.

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Don,

I wanted to thank you for my 2 fuses: the EU-1A and the UFO. I received them last week and they made the trip fine. I've always wanted to build these planes of my teen years and thanks to your efforts (and all that have supported you) I can! I've gotten the EU-1A started and will hopefully show the progress this spring in a build thread.

Keep up the good work and LIVE ON Classic Pattern Birds!!

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Anyone in the Minneapolis area wanting a fuse or two so we can share shipping costs?

UFO/Aurora 60 belly pan..... drool.


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Hey Frequent Flyer,
great looking glass work! How long does it take you to make the mold? How long to produce a fuselage from the mold? It seems like you've been pretty busy!
The Skymaster was designed by M Kato shortly after and in response to the Magic. Tsagutaka Yoshioka designed the Citation about the same time as the Magic, but with
both the engine and exhaust system on the bottom of the airplane. Ivan Kristensen won his first US nats with a Citation in 1983 - a very impressive airplane.
Are you going to kit (or produce a glass fuselage) the Wild Beat?
Keep up the good work
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Don, should i send my Wild Beat fuse to you for the same reason? it is 90% complete. I know Will has interest in the plane.
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It takes a couple of weeks for me to prepair the plug, make the mold and produce the fiberglass fuselage. I just like airplanes and its all fun for me. The Skymaster is still one I long to have. If you have them, send them.
As far as the Wild Beat I am getting ready to build a wood one that I can them use as a plug for a mold. This is another beautiful plane, I love the sleek lines I guess.
I am just finishing a 1/3 scale pitts and a 1/3 scale ultimate bipe then its on to buildng an Aurora 60, Wild Beat, EU1-A, UFO, Dirty Bridi, Phoenix 8, Bootlegger, Speeda 60 and what ever else I can get my hands on. I usually complete a build in about three weeks so I'm shooting for a full hanger by the spring! I've been collecting engines, pipes, retracts, etc. for a couple of years and it is time to get them all in the air!!!!!
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3 weeks? i take 3 years.
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Ha Ha Ha............ Maybe I should have more to do? 4 kids and a single Dad, 3 Businesses and counting. keeps me a little busy.... but I am all caught up today and moving foward. I guess I just can't stop. I like to be busy doing something. Maybe I should build yours so you can get out and fly it!
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Frequent flyer,

When I read the whole story, my advice is, slow down and take care of your health.
First do what is really important or is this your profession?

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Yeah Baby! Were back ON! MOLD ON Don, MOLD ON!
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YAY! Thanks for bringing it back! PM sent.

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I found ths Picture of the Aurora 60 Canopy that I made. Just thought I'd post it.
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I highly doubt it's his profession.... but It certainly may be one of hispassions. Keep rockin...errr molding Don.
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ps. Did you get my reply to your email re: the DB and Bootlegger fuses?

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