I have aquired a unbuilt kit missing the wing cores. I am looking for some pics of the wing profile to cut my own cores. any help regarding the plane in general are appreciated. power will be a YS 61ar.

thanks Kevin

Kevin: check your E mail

Mike in Bellingham,Wa

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Kevin or Dave,

do you have any pictures of this model or the fuse? I'd be interested in seeing how it evolved from the Deception.

Dave, do you know what differences there were between it and the Deception?

David.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=9934489

Hope this helps, it's all I know...

i will post a pic of the fuse tonight. I thought the fuse was incredibly light when compared to my Dirty birdy, that thing could be used as a bat. look forward to the build as I like the looks of the plane. sent Rusty a PM, awaiting an answer.

Kevin

Yup!

That's the only thing I came across too. Actually I found a photo in an expired sale of one here on RCU. I figured this thread needed some pics so I'll repost them here.

Other than the canopy, I'm wondering what other differences there are between the Super Sceptor and the Exception (another Deception variation) - photos of one posted.

Actually, the wing and stab on the SS appear to be less tapered along the LE than on the Deception and Exception which I believe share the same flying surfaces. Might as well post some pics of a Deception for comparison purposes.

David.

Ray,

have you come across any more info on Kimbro design variations? I know you are the ultimate classic pattern librarian.

David.

I'm afraid not David apart from what I posted here [link]http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6282421/anchors_6283423/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#6283423[/link]

I was hoping Mr Kimbro would help us with some Deception development history as he has occasionally posts here as "Insomnia88"

Ray

Ray,

I know Jim posted once or twice on RCU but I'm not sure whether the handle is always used by Jim or his son Matt. At first I wasn't sure who was writing. Later, I believe, Matt acquired a user name of his own.

David.

Same Dave Harmon???

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The Septor I had in Colorado had a tunnel on the fuse top that was removable. Is this the one that started this thread.

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ok here are a few pics of the fuse, I have the prebuilt stab but no wing cores, but I am working on that. nice and light with lots of side area. i think it will be a nice flying plane when finished.

Kevin

Yepsame one. Would you like pictures of the finished on I had ?

would be great to see what it is supposed to look like, I do have teh plan sheet as well, although it is a 1/2 scale drawing.

Kevin

Hope this worked. Had a slew of problems getting it scammed. Finally got something to work. This was before we had nifty computer graphics. All of the lettering was rub on transfer from an office supply shop. Not sure if the motor was a Rossie or OPS. I had both. Weight (before you ask) was 9 1/2 lbs. Poly resin finish, laquor colors, PPG clear top coat. Loved the planejust a little on the heavy side for Denver's 5000 ft air. Often wondered how it would have flown at sea level.

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Bullard, Dave,

great info and pictures! A few questions:
[ul][*] Why did the models turn out so heavy? 9.5 lbs sounds like at least a pound over desirable. Would you contribute the additional weight to finishing or a fuse which was too heavy?
[*] The wings appear to have a different airfoil compared to the Deception. Other than a possible difference in span and area (do you recall these figures?), do you think the airfoils were different from the Deception? If so, any idea where one could obtain plans for the wing and stab? Rusty?
[*] How was the top deck retained? Dowels in the back and a screw holding the front down? I don't see any hardware visible on the outside - nice!
[*] How much anhedral would you recommend going with based on your observations between the two models?
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I'm wondering if this model was actually called a Super Sceptre (or, using American spelling, Scepter) - as in a ceremonial weapon definition?

David.

Mine was finished with 3/4 fiber glass cloth, resin, primer, laquor for colors, and clear coat. It all adds up. A wing covered with monokote would cut the weight some. Upper deck was secured with metal pins mounted in wood blocks (male). These were on the hatch. In the fuse were wooden blocks with brass tubes (females) There was a wire that mounted to the fuse, the pipe went through, and a 1/4 turn aluminum fastener held the deck in place. I was orignally a little concurned, but it did work quite well. My exhaust exited out the bottom, which helped keep the gook off. Ran a streight stab-no adhedral

Bullard,

thanks for the info. Did your elevator pushrod split before the exhaust diverter went through the fuse or did you run the diverter and pushrod side by side? I've never quite figured out what the best approach for running exhaust down the bottom is with a pipe mounted on top and split elevators. Not a big fan of P-P elevator setups.

David.

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