I have a Great Planes kit with F/G fuse foam wings and stab. However I don't have the plans. I need to know what dihedral is needed in the wing and what anhedral angle is needed for the horizontal stab. Also the Cof G would be nice. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Mark

P.S. E-mail address is [email protected]

Hello Mark. I have all the building instructions/info. that you will need. Shoot me a email at
[email protected] with your address and I will get the info to you.

MK

For the Great Planes kit the wing dihedral is 3� measured at the lower side of the one wing tip only or 1 ½ for each side. Stab anhedral is 4 3/8� measured on one side only. I used Spring air retracts and mounted the nose gear on the back side of the firewall.

At the root of the equal taper wing the CG is 4 7/8� from the leading edge.

8187,

Thanks for the info.

I'm thinking of converting to a tail dragger configuration. I haven't made up my mind, retract or fixed gear. Of course now that I think of it with an anhedral stab a tail dragger set up may be out of the question?

Again thanks

Mark

There is a lot of room to mount the nose gear in the Tipo. It is a beautiful aircraft and deserves to be built the way the designer intended. I don’t understand why anyone would want a tail dragger especially a Tipo!

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There is a lot of room to mount the nose gear in the Tipo. It is a beautiful aircraft and deserves to be built the way the designer intended. I don’t understand why anyone would want a tail dragger especially a Tipo!
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I couldn't of said it any better!!!!!!

MK

8187,

Who would want a tail dragger???? Why me of course. I just gotta be different. Being left handed, and flying MODE 1, you gotta know the rubber band isn't wound all that tight. Besides who wouldn't want a tail dragger?

As far as the Tipo, yes it is a beautiful aircraft. But just possibly the designer only made one error, that's right it should be a tail dragger.

Nice job on your fuse!! I like the colors, have used similar myself. Are you left handed or do you fly MODE1. (I bet you really want and like tail draggers, don't you?)

Just kidding. Again thanks for the info. I will consider trike retracts. (But I already have a main gear set.)

Mark

MK,

Please see my reply to 8187 above. I may just have to give in to the pressure and build my first trike in about 25 years. I fly from a grass field and really do think airplanes should have a tail wheel. (I know put in the trike retracts then put on a tiny tail wheel.)

Again thanks a bunch for all the help.

Mark

All is good Mark. Do not forget to put up some pictures of you Tipo when it is done.

Mark K.

Years ago, when the 'box' and aresti style pattern was introduced, a friend of mine had a Tipo built for him as a taildragger...
Unfortunately, the builder (who did a great job) just put in the mains in the conventional location - OOOOOPS. A nosegear was retrofitted and the plane flew great. The pilot did try (repeatedly) to get the plane off the ground as a tail dragger. Broke a lot of props before giving up :-)

Mark K,

Take a look in the "Aerodynamics" forum under a thread called "Anhedral stabs for pattern types" (Or something like that.)

I think it will be a Tail Draggin Tipo.

Went looking thru that forum and ran smack dab on that thread and it was fruitful.

Mark

8187,

Check out "Aerdynamics" Forum under thread "Anhedral stabs etc"

Woo Hoo it's a TD for me. (Hey that rhymes)

Enjoy your feedback.

Mark

I take it that you are planing to lower the stab on the fuse and going to build it with no anhedral. This was done on a later version of the Tiporare called the Tipo Plus (longer fuse). I have a fuse for one but no wing or stab cores. I know the this version had a choice of the anhedral stab or the flat stab (also had the choice of the original wing or new design). They used different stab cores for what ever stab you choosed. I do not know exactly what the difference was on the core from one stab to the other.... but from pictures I have seen of the Tipo + that has the flat stab. It looks to be not as thick as the anhedral stab. It also looks wider from LE to the TE of the stab (More area).

MK

Mark,

Yes, I just heard of the Tipo Plus. A fella from SLC Utah has offered a set of 1/2 scale plans for the Tipo Plus. I'm going to take alook and see what the difference is. Boy, this thread has taken on a life all it's own. But I like it!! In fact it's almost like therapy; I recently bought an engine from someone on RCU and it wasn't the most pleasant of transactions. Dealing with everyone on this thread and on the Aeronautics forum have been a pleasure.

Again Thanks for everything,

Mark

LEt me know if you get a copy of the plans for the Tipo+. I would be interested in a set for my self. Did you get the info. I sent you?

Mark K

Wouldn’t it be great if the SPA created a class for rocket ships like Tipo aircraft. Awesome, beautiful and graceful aircraft with pumped engines on a pipe with retracts sucked up and eating up the sky. Pattern has never been the same since those days! :-(

That would be SWEET!!!! I would even consider leaving the retracts down..... as long as they let me keep my tuned pipe.

The Phoenix I through VIII and Curare are included in the SPA 1965 through 1975 approved aircraft. Anyone recall when the Tipo was designed? I think to have fun with any of these aircraft the SPA would need to allow pumped and piped engines along with retracts. SPA was formed to encourage people to get into pattern flying at a reasonable cost but I think the Tipo class aircraft meets that requirement because they aren’t too expensive to get flying.

Back in the early 90s there was a guy at our field that was a great pattern flyer and few a beautiful Speeda with a pumped engine on a pipe and tri gear retracts. I really enjoyed watching him fly the pattern with that rocket. It was so fast and graceful with monster size maneuvers. Slow rolls that could go almost from horizon to horizon. When you are flying them you really aren’t able to fully appreciate the overall impression created by these awesome aircraft.

If my memory serves me correct.... Mr. Hanson had the proto-types in 1979. It might of even been 1978. I believe the plans were published in either 1980 or 81 in MAN.

So we need a 1976 to 1980 group, or a 1976 to 1990 group!

There were/are some great pattern ships from that era that do deserve a class of their own.

a 1976 to 1986 group,
and a post 1987 group (post-Jekyll)

Any SPA members on this forum?

Plenty of them, but not the ones that make the rules. Good luck with that one, a lot of people have been pushing to get a class for the Tipo style of plane forever, they simply aren't interested. They'd rather fly Daddy Rabbits with a 91 4 stroke. Nothing wrong with that, but they are ignoring a LOT of people who would love to compete with these fast sleek ships. I am one myself. Maybe they just want to avoid the noise issues that plagued pattern during that era.

-Mike

All but one aircraft at the Hotlanta meet were four strokes. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2019541 I’ve owned a four stroke NIB for about 30 years but never have run it. Watching the guys fly at Hotlanta, I found myself missing the sound of the two strokes. Everyone flew very well but you lose some of the zing with the low buzzing sound of the four strokes.