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Old 01-17-2008 | 09:47 AM
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MHester,
My original intention was to restrict this project to SPA-legal planes, but when doing my "research" I found that there are just too many fantastic, cool, great looking, famous, (insert your adjective here) classic pattern planes to limit it to SPA only. These pages are only three days old and I still have to add any descriptions I have. One of the tags I intend to add is to indicate SPA-Legal status. Is there a list of planes that qualify as BPA planes?
I appreciate your input and compliments, MHester.

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BPA is a pretty wide open rule set. Anything under 72" and 1.2 engine size. Anything goes. The actual intent and flavor is the retract/pipe type of pattern planes, so anything from the SPA cut off through the switch to 4 stroke era qualifies. Tipos, UFOs, Auroras, Atlantas, EU1s, etc. Basically all the cool planes that aren't SPA legal

So if it doesn't qualify for SPA, as long as the wing span is under 72", it qualifies as a BPA plane. Generally speaking all of the SPA planes do as well.

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Old 01-17-2008 | 09:49 AM
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And FWIW Mike's Desire qualifies as a BPA plane too, though it was early turn around era. Still a very slick, great flying airplane.

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Old 01-17-2008 | 10:38 AM
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casniffer, the red/white/black plane on page 3 is something I designed and built in the last 2 or 3 years. It is not a classic plane although I certainly copied the classics. It was intended to be a speed/sport/aerobatic job just for fun. I did a build thread in the extreme speed forum:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_22..._bobber/tm.htm

About 580 sq in, Jett 90LX turning a 10x10 at 16K. Flies the ballistic maneuvers well at 150. I'm flattered you included the picture, but the plane is really just a tribute to the classic ballistic designs.
Old 01-17-2008 | 10:57 AM
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Bob, Love the plane! What do you call it? I think the "Bullet" would be a nice descriptive name for it.

casniffer, The "Challenger" (completed kit) on page one is mine, and is the same plane as the "Styrocraft Challenger ll" on page two (box photo). It's circa '74 and was designed by Sonny Micheals. There is a build thread of it at: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5969699/tm.htm
Old 01-17-2008 | 06:14 PM
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WEDJ,
Thanks for the correction on the Tiporare 750. The original filename had 750 in it, but I didn't think it was part of the plane's name.

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Old 01-18-2008 | 09:12 PM
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Hey all,
I added 10 images to page 3 of the image base. These images were submitted by email by several contributors.
Thanks to these pattern plane flyers! If you don't see the new pictures, press F5 to refresh the screen.
I have added a guestbook link to the pages to make it easier to drop me a note.


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Old 01-19-2008 | 06:52 PM
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Hi all.
I added 16 more pictures to page 3 and put some descriptions on a dozen or so planes. I would appreciate it if you would submit any information about any of the planes; wingspan, length, wing area, weight, engine displacement, manufacturer.

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[link=http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/pattern1.htm]Classic Pattern planes[/link]
Old 01-19-2008 | 11:23 PM
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There is a model on page 3 titled 'Atlas', which it most definitely isn't. Looks more like an SPA duck version of a 'Dirty Birdy'.
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Old 01-20-2008 | 07:26 AM
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THE BPA SITE HAS SOME COOL PIC'S[link]http://www.ballisticpattern.com/[/link]


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Old 01-20-2008 | 02:04 PM
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Add this into your database. Marty Moad's "El Toro". Torpedo .45 power, Bramco reed radio vintage 1961 design. I'm working on an AutoCad plan for this. I also included an ad from Glas Kraft for the Candy and Viper, vintage 1965.
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Old 01-20-2008 | 02:20 PM
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Found one more. A Hunter by MK (I believe). It's a direct copy of the Top Flite Orion except for the wing fairings and turtledeck extended to the canopy.
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Old 01-21-2008 | 12:29 PM
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Casniffer,

The red and blue Kaos with the white stars on the wing and stab is (was) my plane. I say was because I dumb thummed it into the ground early last year and it was a total loss except for the motor (thankfully). It was built by a friend of mine from the Tower kit and given to me and my brother covered it. This is the plane that started me down the "Classic Pattern" road. I was surprised (and flattered) that you included it. Keep up the good work on your database. You're efforts are to be commended!!
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hrrcflyer,
Thanks for the compliment. Sorry to hear about your Kaos. I will include your RCU ID and the fact that it was a Tower kit in the description field along with RIP. :-) Our club's website has pictures of all the planes we have, past and present. I put RIP in the description of the goners so all will know.

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Old 01-22-2008 | 10:44 PM
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New classic planes on page three. At some point, I will organize and rearrage all the pictures. Problem is, I keep finding more and people are contributing them.
Good work. If someone has old magazines featuring pattern planes, I'm sure others like me would like to see them

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Old 01-28-2008 | 11:57 AM
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The Dirty Birdy pictured in red white and blue livery is nit 8pounds as the caption states. It is a scratch built Dirty Birdy with plug in wings and weighed in at pounds 6 ounces dry. The photo was taken at the 06 Asheville NC SPA contest and I am the builder and just happen to be in the photo also. To my immediate right is another Dirty Birdy built by a fellow club member here in NE Tennessee. Vic Koenig
Old 01-29-2008 | 09:39 PM
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Hi all.
I added 40 pictures that span the bottom of page 3 and into page 4. Some were harvested from RCUniverse and some were emailed to me. Thanks for the contributions and corrections.

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Old 01-30-2008 | 02:48 AM
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Looks like the page 3 link to page 4 is incorrect. This should work: http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/pattern4.htm
Old 01-30-2008 | 06:42 AM
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perttime,
I fixed the link. I only tested the links at the top of the page. Thanks for pointing it out.

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Old 01-30-2008 | 09:35 PM
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Hey all.
I started going through the list of SPA legal planes on seniorpattern.com and labeling the qualifying planes in the image-base. When things start to slow down a little, I will attempt to put the images back in alphabetical order.

Thanks

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Old 01-30-2008 | 09:43 PM
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Dang, you're being good. Thanks from all of us!!!
Old 01-31-2008 | 10:16 PM
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Hi all,
I have put 26 more images on [link=http://www.trentonrcflyers.com/pattern/pattern4.htm]Page 4[/link]. I got these images from a PDF document on the SPA website. Here is the [link=http://www.seniorpattern.com/oldpics/DavidWoodPics.pdf]original document. [/link]. I hope I am not stepping on anyones' toes by using these images. I have credited the SPA website as the source of the pictures.

By the way, who from the SPA will be in Perry, Ga. at the Southeastern Model Show? The SPA usually has a number of tables there. This is where I learned about the SPA. I must confess, I thought the word Senior was a classification of the membership and not the planes. . Remember to get some walking in before you go...its easy to put a few miles in there. (at least for me)

I will be making my annual pilgrimage to Perry with a number of club members. Its truly R/C "Mecca".

Thanks
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Old 02-03-2008 | 03:19 PM
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Hello Moderator or other responsible person:

Let's make this a stickY!!!


Best regards,
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Old 02-04-2008 | 11:04 PM
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Hey, guys!
We are up to 174 different planes in the image-base. I have 204 images on the 4 pages, so obviously there are duplications. I don't care about multiple images of the same model. I have 797 pictures of Piper Cubs and 404 pictures of the Dehavilland Beaver. I don't have to tell you my fondness for these planes.
Keep them coming. I will accept scans of old pictures and clean them up and retouch them. Don't think they're too far gone. Here are examples.
Thanks!

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Old 02-05-2008 | 02:27 AM
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Actually, I like the look of "honestly" faded pictures. The green grass in those retouched picks look pretty fake to me.

Watch out! I heard a story about a German couple who traveled to the nort to see the autumn there, in the times of old fashioned photography. Back home they got a call from the shop, saying that their film had been destroyed because all the pictures ended up with weird colors like this:
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Old 02-05-2008 | 07:22 AM
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Hi,

Just wanted to let you know that the plane listed as the "Mannix" on page 2 is actually Zel Ritchie's Phantom IV. I'm getting ready to do a short kit and build on the plane which finished 2nd at the 1964 Nats and competed in the World Championships that year. I'll get you some much better pictures tonight as well as uploading my stash of old pictures. Great work on the page!!! BTW, the Phoenix 8 and the Phoenix 8 and Super Kaos pics sitting side by side were mine.

Dan
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