I'm looking for a Conquest 7 the old Dave Parick design. Any info would be appreciated.

thanks,
paul

I have a Conquest VI I will give you for $20 plus shipping from Idaho. It's well Used and I'll even take many photographs for your perusal. Bought at a club auction, I simple do not have time. Trying to clear a bunch of want to be projects out of the workshop before winter.

Did you ever contact the Dunphys?? You got my message with their contact info..Right??

Atlanta,
I never heard back from them but thanks for your help.

paul

Atlanta,
The Conquest 7 is not available but Maureen @ PAC RC Hobbies says they are trying to sell the molds to someone who is interested in offereing the kit again.

I've been trying trying to buy just the one Conquest mold from Maureen for ober a year but she wants to sell all the molds in one shot. I can't say that I blame her. I'd love to have another VII as it was my first real pattern plane.

Petec,
Agreed. I have one too that is very tired. I'd love to get another but they are hard to find. Hopefully someone will buy the molds and start producing this great flying plane.

paul

Yeah..I can't afford all of them...I was hoping she would sell individual's...

You would be talking about someone wanting to start a business to acquire all of them...I'd be pretty suprised if you would ever get a return on your investment?? Maybe but I dunno?? You would have to sell allot of kits and I'm not really sure the market is there??

I'm not interested in a business...I do have a few aircraft that I would like to see not fade away into oblivion...I'm going to build a set of molds for myself for a couple of these planes...If it works out that I can make a second set during the process "to help the cause" than that is awesome!! But I'm not wanting to "produce airplanes" as a business...

I hope someone will get the tools and offer the kits!! That would be Great!! It will be sad to see them fade away!!

It really makes me appreciate guys like Carolina Custom Aircraft, AztecAir, PatternPilot's outfit, Eureka and a whole host of others I'm forgetting...They are keeping some of these things alive!! You know they ain't getting rich...

Have Fun...

Chuck

I think Dan (Carolina Custom Aircraft) looked into purchasing the molds from PAC, but felt that the price was a bit high. There are quite a few molds involved, some more popular than others! The demand for these outdated designs is just not that great. At least we know where the molds are.
I have plans for the Conquest 6 and 7 from the kits if anybody wants a copy (I'll have to find them first). I liked the 6 version a little better than the 7 myself, but both flew well.
-Will B.

Do you know the difference between the versions? Especially the VI and VII

The difference between the C6 and the C7 was a deeper fuselage. The same wing, stab, rudder were used. Jim Graham (the founder of R/C City) was responsible for the fuselage changes to create the Conquest 6. The extra lateral area improved rolling maneuvers a bit and provided a little more space for equipment in the fuselage and the pipe in the belly pan. The pipe fit is very close in the C7.

Since Chuck (aka Atlanta 60) is making a mold for the Atlanta and has alluded to doing the same for the Aurora I thought I'd mention that Phillips Aircraft Company(founded by Larry Phillips) kitted the Conquest IV (4) (very similar to the Conquest VII (7); smaller wing) as well as the PA-2 which was his copy of the MK Aurora. He also kitted the Mistress and the Philare-2 (which I think was a copy of the Summit 2 design except with a fixed wing instead of plug-in). I mention this because those molds may still exist. When Larry was running his kit business he lived in Williamsport, PA. If they can be located, maybe we can convince Dan Hines (Carolina Custom Aircraft) to add them to his inventory and get some kits!
While I'm thinking about it, whatever happened to Pattern Tek? They produced fiberglass kits for the Beetle, Miss Beetle (both by Akiba, but very different in appearance), Supra-Fly and the SIlent. It would be great to find those molds as well! They were located in Southern California I believe.

OK, enough wishful thinking for now!!
-Will B.

I did bump into a fellow who had splashed his PA-2 way back when...He was going to go out to his garage and see if he still had his molds but I never heard anything else from him... [&o]

I thought somebody knew the wherebouts of the Phillips molds..Can't remember where I read that but I seriously think I remember somebody mentioning them...It would be nice if they were obtainable!! I dunno' I may be dreaming??

I have a Phillips Conquest IV...I need to get going on that thing too...

It would be soooo nice to have a glass Aurora!! I think I prefer having a molded vertical instead of the Phillips PA-2's method of a balsa vertical which is bonded and requires fairing...I wonder what the rational was behind that method?? Nothing wrong with it!! Just a little more finishing work required and I'd imagine it's a little heavier too...Oh Well...The PA-2 is still really nize!!

Just my thoughts...

Chuck

Gentlemen,
The more I read and hear about these old designs......the more I want one. I have a very old Conquest 7 that flies great but needs replacing. I'll just have to keep searching as nobody yet has come forward with one
Thanks for your replies.

Good flying,
paul

Chuck,

What I'm about to say is way beyond second and third hand information BUT.... the way I heard the story is that when Larry Phillips did the mold for the PA-2 (glass Aurora) the vertical stabilizer was CROOKED!!! so... instead of starting over, he simply cut the vertical stab off from the pulled fuselages and shipped the foam core for the vertical stab with the kit. I have a PA-2 and looking at the fuselage, it looks very straight but was NOT joined in the mold and it appears my kit was stuck in a couple of places when it was pulled. The kit I have is a basic kit so that might be the difference in the quality versus the deluxe kit with presheeted wing/stab/and ailerons/elevators cut/capped. I've had one of those but it was sold in a moment of lunacy.

I'm going to take some pictures of the PA-2 next to an MK Aurora that I have so we can get an idea of just how close the two are to being correct.

As to the question "where are the Phillips molds?"... your guess is as good as mine. I got a note about 2 years ago that a person who thought he knew where they were, but never heard back. I ALWAYS want to know where any molds for the vintage birds are. Presently I'm looking for the Phillips molds, the WK molds and the Bridi mold of the Shrike Commander (just 'cause I want one). I thought I'd found the Great Planes molds but... never heard a word back from Kitty Hawk models which is where they were supposed to have gone. I'd love to be able to make plugs and put a lot of the vintage birds back into production but guys... it just flat takes a HUGE amount of time to make this happen. Ask Chuck, as much as we wish making a mold was a 2 week project, it isn't. 2 weeks is about how long it takes just to POLISH the plug to get ready to make the mold. There are a few guys like myself that keep this very small nitche market going and all of us small marketers really appreciate all the support from you guys. Believe me, those nice words from time to time make that time at the shop really worthwhile and we certainly appreciate the business.

I'll see if I can't those comparison pics on very soon. I've always believed that someone knows the location of everything... so, if you've got some information on some molds let me know.

Dan
Carolina Custom Aircraft
[email protected]

Hi Dan,
The story about the PA-2 fin confirms what I had heard. I moved to Wilmington, NC back in 1989 and met Brian Doxey who had placed 2nd in Expert at the '88 nats with a Ten Plus Aurora (MK kit). Larry Phillpis was selling the basic PA-2 kit fro about $150 at the time and Brian saw an opportunity to make some money custom building PA-2 and the occasional Mistress kit. When I met him business was booming (I think he priced his finshed PA-2 about $200 cheaper than the TEN Pus Aurora which also had a waiting list). I asked about the chopped off PA-2 fin and he told me the same story. My 'Mister Obvious' question was: why didn't Larry fix the plug before he made the mold?
It would be great to get the original plug, fix it (if that is possible - the fin was off by a small amount - maybe 3 degrees maximum) and make new molds.
I built 4 Phillips Mistress kits (3 basic and 1 deluxe). The glasswork was the same for all 4. They were all straight, but there were sometimes small areas where it appeared the mold release either was missing or didn't work. Brian said the PA-2 was pretty much identical to the Aurora.
Happy Hunting Dan!
-Will B.

I have an unbuilt Conquest VII that I bought in 1990 from R/C City when they were still located in Northern Cal. It is a builder's kit (FG fuse/belly pan, wing/stab foam cores, and a scaled down drawing). PM me if you are interested.

Frank da funnflyerr

Sorry, don't know where to source a VII but I'd get one if it's available. Here's my VI and I have a question...Is it possible to re-power with a 4 stroke?
Like a YS 110 ? I don't know if it's even possible considering the narrow engine bay. I currently have a Rossi 61LS with a 12.5X10.5W Bolly prop.
I feel the need for unlimited vertical. I suspect the added torque and a 14" prop would probably mess up the flight characteristics of this
otherwise arrow-straight tracker. Hey, I think I just talked myself out of it...

JCOOP,

I have a Conquest VI that was originally powered by a piped YS .91AC, but recently converted to a YS 1.10, no pipe(yet). I THINK I'm running a 14-12 APC prop. The engine fits perfect, but whatever you do, DON'T use a YS/Dave Brown style soft mount! Either engine will shake around on this style mount to the point it will damage the fuse, but the 1.10 is worse. I haven't devoted enough effort to find another style soft mount that will work yet, and there's not space to fit a nose ring to help, either. After 2 or 3 runs, the rubber isolators will self-destruct, too.

As far as power, maybe one of the guys from the Huntsville BPA contest that have flown mine will chime in and confirm that the 1.10 has "almost" enough power. Ever heard the saying you can never have "too much" power? 100mph + level flight, true unlimited vertical.

If I would ever fix the mount problem, I would get rid of both my 2 meter planes and only fly the 6. It flys SOMUCH better than the 2 meters I have it's not even funny...faster, but so much better.

Don't talk youself out of it, just fix the mount problem first, and let me know how you do it, please!

Roy Aultman
Forest, MS

[quote]ORIGINAL: skyhawk172n

>>I have a Conquest VI that was originally powered by a piped YS .91AC, but recently converted to a YS 1.10, no pipe(yet). I THINK I'm running a 14-12 APC prop. The engine fits perfect, but whatever you do, DON'T use a YS/Dave Brown style soft mount! Either engine will shake around on this style mount to the point it will damage the fuse, but the 1.10 is worse. <<

That's funny, Roy, I just bookmarked Central's page on the YS 110 4S. I haven't bitten yet as I'm also considering sending the Rossi to a chap in the West Coast that will modify it and get an extra .5hp, or so they say, for $75. He guarantees it will hover my plane with a 14 X 8.

Re: vibration, maybe it's over-propped in your application. I run a 12.5 X 10.5W Bolly CF or 13X10 APC and it's just a bit slower, but smooth, screaming at probably 16K RPM. I have the DB soft mounts and haven't had a problem. I have a YS120 in a MK120 Super Chipmunk (another kit that I've been searching for) turning a 14.5 X 12.5W Bolly CF That vibrates a lot but not that bad to mess up the fuse. Both are piped, and I took the extra time to balance the props. I wonder if the pipe and the balancing will tone the shakes enough?

Anyway, I'm posting more pics of for Paul. I have a servo to the carb high speed adjuster so I'll take a pic of the guts too but later.

Boy, these are beautiful models!

I recently acquired a C-IV and have been mulling over how to go about the build. Dare I say it, I've even considered electric but the design just begs for a YS AR.

There was a restoration thread on a IV (see picture) that was begun but I'm not sure what happened. It'd be great to see how things are going!

Other things on the burner for the time being though.

David.

JCOOP,

Great looking C-6! What's really funny is mine has the exact same layout, only different colors. Mettalic blue, maroon, and charcoal gray stripes.

The DB mount should work fine with a 2 stroke, or even a smoother running 4 stroke like an OS, but the combination of extremely narrow nose and hard hitting YS just doesn't work. Prop is balanced, and loads the 1.10 into the RPM range recommended. May could let it rev a little, but not much.

Sorry about hijacking the original intent of this thread, but I don't have any info about a C-7 being available. I wish I had been able to pick up the C-6 that a guy in North Carolina had available on RCU about a year ago. Good looking airframe, fair price, but we couldn't get together at the Joe Nall to avoid shipping.

Roy Aultman

Thanks, Roy. Although I had a YS AR (which I put in a Curare) at the time, I guess I lucked out on the choice of a Rossi LS as the power curve is in the upper teens. I guess the high RPM kinda drowns out the vibes a bit. BTW, I also isolated the pipe mounts with softer isolators. So that decides it, then, I'll just send the motor out west and see how that mod works out for a bit more power.

Sorry about going on about the VI too but as I understand it, Paul (original poster) ended up with a VI anyway...good luck with it!

Thanks JC..
As Imentioned somewhere, I found a Vl and some cores online last winter. My Vll is tired and has some bad cracks in the fuse so I think I'm gonna just retire her. I also have a Piorun Python thatI might tackle first as I have a new YS 140 with a Hyde soft mount, ready to go. I've never built a true pattern plane [Sig King Kobra doesn't count] so this should be fun.
Many thanks to all who answered this thread.

paul

Sorry to bump such an old thread but I am looking for a Conquest VI kit or complete. I have a set of plans to be delivered friday that I can share if anyone is interested. Paypal ready. Thank you.


These conquest are not mine but wanted to share. They were powered by 1.20 four strokes and these pics were taken when i was a kid in the early 90s or late eighties when me and my dad used to fly pattern.

Hopefully the Conquests will be kitted again. I sold my unbuilt Conquest VI kit more than 20 years ago and still regret it. Then I sold my built Conquest VI and VII to a fellow club member. Wish I'd kept the VI.
I don't think either of the models in that photo are powered with 1.20s. The head would stick out of the belly pan pretty far and the header for the engine would have required a side cut-out. Those are probably powered with 60s which is what they were designed for.