Classic Pattern - pick logo
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I like it also....
So far this one has the most intrest...
I will post it on the CPA mail list and also send it to the CPA paid Members....
It might be tonight or Thursday, I'm on the road and in Louisville KY right now..
scott
So far this one has the most intrest...
I will post it on the CPA mail list and also send it to the CPA paid Members....
It might be tonight or Thursday, I'm on the road and in Louisville KY right now..
scott
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Now we're talking! Good work Greg.
If I may suggest to warm up the yellow a tad I think it'll print/show better on light backgrounds. Take it toward the orange (in the spectrum), close to but not quite a Cub yellow. How would it look using the font on the triangle logo? Good idea to fold the surface shadow into it though - it works doesn't it?
I know I'm a nuisance.
David.
If I may suggest to warm up the yellow a tad I think it'll print/show better on light backgrounds. Take it toward the orange (in the spectrum), close to but not quite a Cub yellow. How would it look using the font on the triangle logo? Good idea to fold the surface shadow into it though - it works doesn't it?
I know I'm a nuisance.
David.
#34
Gents, I did read:
As posted on the classic pattern mail list we are looking for some creative people to come up with a CPA logo...
Making a choice is not my case but let me a spectator for a while so
I do have an opinion and maybe you are interested I that, it can be important on nearly the point of no return.
On rails
Often we read “on rails†when a pattern plane performs more than expected. When I see this logo of your choice I can see the rails but the flight will be limited in time!
‘Dynamic’ the picture is a mix of points in all directions and with some imagination I can make it a logo of a cruise missile. The nice curved lines of the plane are in bad contrast with the points of the “star†that wants to destroy the plane.
Otherwise I see an pattern plane doing the “proto taxi†maneuver and the Pilot is calling:â€hangar!†Full brakes on a carpet.
Conclusion:
A very bad choice for something that has to do with “clsassicâ€.
Suggestion,
Sometimes removing is better than adding, so continue after deleting the complete star on the right side. It will give a more relaxing picture in the noisy environment that the logo will be used in the future.
So the pattern plane and Classic Pattern Flying:
ON RAILS
(My two cents)
Cees
edit: breaks/brakes
As posted on the classic pattern mail list we are looking for some creative people to come up with a CPA logo...
Making a choice is not my case but let me a spectator for a while so
I do have an opinion and maybe you are interested I that, it can be important on nearly the point of no return.
On rails
Often we read “on rails†when a pattern plane performs more than expected. When I see this logo of your choice I can see the rails but the flight will be limited in time!
‘Dynamic’ the picture is a mix of points in all directions and with some imagination I can make it a logo of a cruise missile. The nice curved lines of the plane are in bad contrast with the points of the “star†that wants to destroy the plane.
Otherwise I see an pattern plane doing the “proto taxi†maneuver and the Pilot is calling:â€hangar!†Full brakes on a carpet.
Conclusion:
A very bad choice for something that has to do with “clsassicâ€.
Suggestion,
Sometimes removing is better than adding, so continue after deleting the complete star on the right side. It will give a more relaxing picture in the noisy environment that the logo will be used in the future.
So the pattern plane and Classic Pattern Flying:
ON RAILS
(My two cents)
Cees
edit: breaks/brakes
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can we see one without the left wing tip and the pressure tap line... Remember the goal is a clean look for silk screening and embroidering..
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The left wing tip needs to be there, The pic is flat without it. Tilt the aircraft to the right and show a little more left wing and see what happens . Just not right with out the left tip.
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Well,
I have to say that this font is much more thespian and classic than the other "comic" like font and think it works much better. Fonts are an entire area of expertise for some people and it does require playing with them some and have them available - not always the case. I also like the curves of the serifs on this font which lend themselves well to the curved lines of our planes. To a certain extent I agree with Cees in that the sharp star is somewhat in conflict with the curved lines of the model but on the other hand it complements the trim scheme which is angular.
Speaking of complementing, what do you think of adding a white trim strip between the colors in the star - just like on the DB?
Greg, it looks like you desaturated the yellow rather than enrichen it. I was thinking of something warmer in terms of saturation and chroma rather than in color temperature. The very light yellow will not "read" on white backgrounds which will be the primary background I'd imagine. For some things (e.g., T-shirts, caps), a rich "gun metal" gray is a great background as it's "neutral" and provides a high contrast surface (that's why most primer is gray). However, a very hot yellow (tending to white) will look "electric" on a gray or black background. That's the main reason why cub yellow covering is used much more often than the regular yellow - it just complements darker tones better. Try taking it toward the orange rather than the white (i.e., don't "pull" color). Think along the lines of Spektrum's tones although we don't want to use their orange.
David.
I have to say that this font is much more thespian and classic than the other "comic" like font and think it works much better. Fonts are an entire area of expertise for some people and it does require playing with them some and have them available - not always the case. I also like the curves of the serifs on this font which lend themselves well to the curved lines of our planes. To a certain extent I agree with Cees in that the sharp star is somewhat in conflict with the curved lines of the model but on the other hand it complements the trim scheme which is angular.
Speaking of complementing, what do you think of adding a white trim strip between the colors in the star - just like on the DB?
Greg, it looks like you desaturated the yellow rather than enrichen it. I was thinking of something warmer in terms of saturation and chroma rather than in color temperature. The very light yellow will not "read" on white backgrounds which will be the primary background I'd imagine. For some things (e.g., T-shirts, caps), a rich "gun metal" gray is a great background as it's "neutral" and provides a high contrast surface (that's why most primer is gray). However, a very hot yellow (tending to white) will look "electric" on a gray or black background. That's the main reason why cub yellow covering is used much more often than the regular yellow - it just complements darker tones better. Try taking it toward the orange rather than the white (i.e., don't "pull" color). Think along the lines of Spektrum's tones although we don't want to use their orange.
David.
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Beer (or some such) is mandatory when doing this kinda stuff. You forget the mouse is in your hand (hopefully) altogether and when you come back the following day to check your work you realize, hey - that's not bad!
Without good strong brew, I would have never managed to get through A-level physics - 3 x ~1000 page "volumes" of literature... surely the densest exam I have ever had to take. It somehow entered some semi-volatile part of my brain under the seduction of ethanol. Connecting the dots was not so hard once it was in place...
University exams were a walk in the park compared to that - given the level of knowledge at each particular point in time.
David.
Without good strong brew, I would have never managed to get through A-level physics - 3 x ~1000 page "volumes" of literature... surely the densest exam I have ever had to take. It somehow entered some semi-volatile part of my brain under the seduction of ethanol. Connecting the dots was not so hard once it was in place...

University exams were a walk in the park compared to that - given the level of knowledge at each particular point in time.
David.
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My graphic days where pre computer.... as the photography..... as a old time news photographer told me when he hired me for the photo staff.."your the eyes and ears for the people that were not there" and as much as the digital age is cool and able to fix things, i still like a good b&w photo or color without any changes.. Guess that is what happens when you did classes studying Ansel Adams.
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David,
The yellow was not desaturated, I just picked another from the yellow-orange spectrum. Send me a small color sample patch jpg of what you're thinking, and I'll try it.
Greg
The yellow was not desaturated, I just picked another from the yellow-orange spectrum. Send me a small color sample patch jpg of what you're thinking, and I'll try it.
Greg
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David,
I'm not crazy about adding some white to the star. The real star is the airplane and I don't want to make the star-icon any more dominant in the design. If that gets to be a major issue with the group, I'll have to tackle it when I get back from Florida in a couple of weeks.
Greg
I'm not crazy about adding some white to the star. The real star is the airplane and I don't want to make the star-icon any more dominant in the design. If that gets to be a major issue with the group, I'll have to tackle it when I get back from Florida in a couple of weeks.
Greg



