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csimpson 11-02-2006 12:53 PM

AURORA 45
 
I have an origianl set of plans from the Aurora 45 from an MK kit. I would be willing to send them to anyone who will pay the postage. I would love to see one come together here like the Blue Angel. 8178 you are doing an awesome job. Keep up the good work.

Chris

mmattockx 11-02-2006 12:58 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Are they a manageable size to get copied or scanned? I would hate to take the only set off your hands (my build will be a ways down the road), but I will gladly pay scanning or copying costs in addition to the postage.


Mark

csimpson 11-02-2006 01:50 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
I'm sure they could be copied. I'll find a place and get back with you. Maybe I'll get a few sets done and then several people can have them.

mmattockx 11-02-2006 02:36 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
That would be excellent. It's best if we can spread this around some, sort of like planting seedlings when you cut down a tree...Gotta keep this a renewable resource and all.:D


Mark

roncoleman 11-02-2006 04:05 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Would anyone know what's the going price to have
plans copied in the states?

Ron

csimpson 11-02-2006 04:38 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
I called a place that said $5.00-$6.00 for the entire sheet. That seems like a good deal to me... I might get a few done so just let me know who wants them. I'll try and snap a few pics tonight to show everyone what they look like.

Chris

Deadstik 11-02-2006 05:18 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Ron,

Kinko's is who I use to copy my plans. For full size plans of a .60 sized plane it usually runs between $8.50 and $12.00 depending on how the plane was drawn. To do a wooden aircraft you would certainly want the full size plans for the plane and just as 8178 did, get a wing done and then get on with the fuselage. Pre Kinkos it usually cost about $6.00 a set, even for a large plan but I must admit that the NEW scanners/paper/printer are much better quality than the older units. It is another case of you get what you pay for, but...I just wish it was a bit less for a change.

I'd like a set of those Aurora 45 plans too.. so put me on the list and let me know the costs. BTW... to fold the plans (yes, I hate to do that) cost much less than the $4.00 mailing tube, but, for me, add in the cost of the mailing tube/postage.

Thanks,

Dan

Carolina Custom Aircraft

mmattockx 11-02-2006 05:22 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Good point on the rolled vs. folded, Dan.

I will pay the extra for the rolled version, myself.


Thanks,
Mark



Roary m 11-02-2006 06:55 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Go ahead and put my name up there; will definitely put up for a set, thank you.

ppljr 11-02-2006 07:08 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
I like the look of the Aurora, put me up for a set. Let me know when and where to send the $$.

3Thumbflyer 11-02-2006 08:38 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 

ORIGINAL: csimpson

I have an origianl set of plans from the Aurora 45 from an MK kit. I would be willing to send them to anyone who will pay the postage. I would love to see one come together here like the Blue Angel. 8178 you are doing an awesome job. Keep up the good work.

Chris
Hey Folks,

How would the Aurora 45 do with a Saito .56 in the nose? If I get some positives I'd be interested in a set of the plans as well.

Ken

csimpson 11-02-2006 09:15 PM

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Here are the pics. The plans are full size with lots of detail.

mmattockx 11-02-2006 11:06 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 


ORIGINAL: csimpson

Here are the pics. The plans are full size with lots of detail.
So, what are you waiting for, man?! Get copying!:D:D

Let me know how much and where to send the money. Is Paypal an acceptable alternative? I will tag on the extra 3% they skim off if you like.

Mark

Jim_Purcha 11-02-2006 11:23 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
That must be a fairly large plan, it contains both the full length of the fuselage and the entire wing span. Is there a root and a tip airfoil shown on the plans?

ORIGINAL: csimpson

Here are the pics. The plans are full size with lots of detail.

mmattockx 11-02-2006 11:36 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Jim, perhaps we could do a double shipment across the border, then one of us can send them on to the other after splitting the sets? That way we only pay the painful shipping once...

Mark

Jim_Purcha 11-02-2006 11:44 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
I'll be in Houston in two weeks, and the hotel I'm staying at is just 5 minutes from a Kinko's. If I could get a good scan of the plans, I might be able to get them printed there. Deadstick mentioned in a earlier post that printing was cheap at Kinko's. I'll bring these back as carryon or something. I know anything printed locally is at least $30.00.

Jim

propbuster 11-03-2006 06:38 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Please add me to the list. Kinko's is the best place I know of to copy plans. Thanks, Prop

csimpson 11-03-2006 07:33 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
If I had a scan I could print them myself. I'm a CAD designer and I sit 6' from a HP 42" wide roll feed plotter. I was told by a local place that it would only be $5.00-$6.00 to get a copy. The only place that would be able to scan is about an hour away. I think the copys might be the best choice right now. I'll swing the plan by there later and get some copies. Maybe I can get these out to you guys by Monday.

roncoleman 11-04-2006 09:27 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Chris, Put me down for set of the plans too. Would you have the
construction booklet also?


Dan, Thanks for the info. The reason I asked, I found a place in my
location a couple of days ago that can make copies for a few $ less.
Just in case someone wants to do a mass copy job. Quality seems
to be ok also.

Ron

speed-panzer 11-05-2006 07:21 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Hi,

anybody out there - has somebody experience to use a OS 91FX in a Aurora 60 plane? I have a Aurora 60 kit with still semi finished fuselage.

csimpson 11-06-2006 08:24 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Ok, going today to get copies. I realize I have a few questions too about the plans. The root is shown on the cross section of the fuse but the tips are not. Another rib is shown close to the tip and that should be enough to get a wing done. All I have is the plan, no instruction book. Here is a list of people I'm getting copies for. Please let me know ASAP if you no longer want them or if there is someone else that would like a set. It will be the price of the copy, the mailing tube, probably $5.00 USPS in the states and $10.00 to Canada. I will confirm this later.

mmattockx, deadstik, roary_m, ppljr, prop buster, roncoleman, jim_purcha, turbo.gst

csimpson 11-06-2006 05:12 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Copies are done. They ended up costing me $7.50 each and they look real good.

Chris

csimpson 11-07-2006 01:43 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Plans are ready to ship rolled in tube. Total is $20.00 shipped in the US. You guys can Paypal me [email protected]
I can ship in the morning.

Chris

csimpson 11-09-2006 01:53 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
I have payment from 4 as of this point and their plans have shipped. I would like to get these others sent too. Please contact me or Paypal [email protected]

Thanks
Chris

Jim_Purcha 11-09-2006 04:03 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Anyone know about the availability of a canopy for this model? Anyone checked with Singapore Hobby or MK?

8178 11-09-2006 05:24 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Jim,

From the pictures and drawing I think you might be able to use the front section of a Blue Angel canopy and they are available.

csimpson 11-14-2006 08:38 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
well I guess that I have been stuck with 3 sets of plans, I have yet to hear from roary_m, ppljr, and prop_buster.

Deadstik 11-14-2006 04:18 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Chris,

Just got the plans.... they look great.... looks like Ill be doing a foam wing when I get to it.... same type thing I did for 8178's Blue Angel... but.. it will be a while... there are 4 major projects ahead.. but.. I'm going to get to it eventually.... as well as an Aurora...

Thanks for your effort in getting the plans done.... I'm sure the other guys will pony up......

Dan
Carolina Custom Aircraft

csimpson 11-17-2006 09:15 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Dan, sent you a PM.

Jim_Purcha 11-23-2006 11:11 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Just received an email from Singapore Hobbies .... Yikes!!!!!

Dear James,

Sorry for the late reply.

The canopy of the Aurora 45 is available. The price is S$23.70. Shipping
to Canada via reg. airmail is S$19.00.

Thank you.

Best regards,
Ronald Yong
*****************************************
Singapore Hobby Supplies Pte Ltd
150 South Bridge Road,
Fook Hai Building, #B1-23.
Singapore 058727.
Tel: (65) 6532-1993
Fax: (65) 6535-7866
http://www.singahobby.com
****************************************
All prices are quoted in Singapore Dollars.


-----Original Message-----
From: James Purcha [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2006 12:28 AM
To: [email protected]

Are there any kits, cowls,canopies available for the Aurora 45 or Aurora
45s?

What would be the price to ship to Canada?

rainedave 11-23-2006 11:18 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
That's $27.50 US or $31.35 CAN total.

Jim_Purcha 11-24-2006 07:26 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Thanks, Dave ... the Singapore Dollar exchange still doesn't make it a very enticing offer. Does RCU want to collect a fund for it?

Just opened up my Aurora 45 plans. Wow. My hat .... or tuque eh! to 8178 for being able to make the Blue Angel based on plans like this. How's anyone determining the tip airfoil profile?


ORIGINAL: rainedave

That's $27.50 US or $31.35 CAN total.

Deadstik 11-24-2006 08:52 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Jim,

There a couple of ways to "derive" the tip airfoil. For me, the easiest way is to first copy the root rib airfoil shape. You must be careful to make certain exactly what is shown on the plans. IT USUALLY is the airfoil AT THE WING/SIDE OF THE FUSELAGE. If this is the case you then have to measure the distance from LE to TE AT THE WING ROOT and the distance for LE TO TE AT THE WING TIP. Then you bring up your original scan from the side view/fuselage in the TILEPRINT software program. TILEPRINT allows you to scale up/down anything just by drawing a line and giving it a KNOWN DISTANCE. You print out the first one given the root distance and the second one given the tip distance. Instantly you have the root and tip templates. Same procedure is used for the stab.

Tile print supports the follwing formats: Bitmaps (*.bmp;*.dib), GIF Images (*.gif), JPEG Images (*.jpg;*.jpeg), Metafiles (*.wmf;*.emf) and Icons(*.ico;*.cur). Tileprint was written by a fellow RCU member who usually is in the 1/2A forum areas... Great guy.. this software has saved me HOURS and really makes it easy to make wing templates/ and ribs

You can download it from at http://donatelli.net/downloads/ tileprint .zip

Hope this helps. Good luck with your project... I've got to order the Canopy.....

Dan Hines
Carolina Custom Aircraft
Rougemont, NC
[email protected]

mmattockx 11-24-2006 09:53 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 


ORIGINAL: Deadstik
Hope this helps. Good luck with your project... I've got to order the Canopy.....

Dan Hines
Carolina Custom Aircraft
Rougemont, NC
[email protected]
Hey Dan,

Before you order a canopy, maybe we should see if there is interest in getting a group buy together to minimize the shipping costs. I am in for one if you are interested in doing this. I will also take delivery of the batch of canopies and ship them on to individuals if no one else wants to do it.


Mark

Jim_Purcha 11-24-2006 04:40 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Dan is this the same technique you used on 8178's Blue Angel. I already have tileprint, profili2 and Compufoil3D. But with the technique you're describing won't you get the same percentage airfoil thickness for both the root and tip airfoils? Too bad most kit plans don't give you the root and tip profiles.

Jim

ORIGINAL: Deadstik

Jim,

There a couple of ways to "derive" the tip airfoil. For me, the easiest way is to first copy the root rib airfoil shape. You must be careful to make certain exactly what is shown on the plans. IT USUALLY is the airfoil AT THE WING/SIDE OF THE FUSELAGE. If this is the case you then have to measure the distance from LE to TE AT THE WING ROOT and the distance for LE TO TE AT THE WING TIP. Then you bring up your original scan from the side view/fuselage in the TILEPRINT software program. TILEPRINT allows you to scale up/down anything just by drawing a line and giving it a KNOWN DISTANCE. You print out the first one given the root distance and the second one given the tip distance. Instantly you have the root and tip templates. Same procedure is used for the stab.

Tile print supports the follwing formats: Bitmaps (*.bmp;*.dib), GIF Images (*.gif), JPEG Images (*.jpg;*.jpeg), Metafiles (*.wmf;*.emf) and Icons(*.ico;*.cur). Tileprint was written by a fellow RCU member who usually is in the 1/2A forum areas... Great guy.. this software has saved me HOURS and really makes it easy to make wing templates/ and ribs

You can download it from at http://donatelli.net/downloads/ tileprint .zip

Hope this helps. Good luck with your project... I've got to order the Canopy.....

Dan Hines
Carolina Custom Aircraft
Rougemont, NC
[email protected]

8178 11-24-2006 05:26 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Jim,

We had root and tip wing rib tracings from a MK kit for the Blue Angel.

Jim_Purcha 11-24-2006 05:31 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Thanks 8178, that's what is missing from the Aurora 45 plans. No root or tip airfoils?

Dan, if you have the plans of the Aurora 45, is the airfoil profile similar to the Blue Angel?

rainedave 11-24-2006 06:08 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 
If all you have is the airfoil at the fuse side and you enlarge it to the root chord, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to make the tip airfoil about 2% thicker, or so. That's what I would do anyway. Was the BA airfoil a constant thickness?

8178 11-24-2006 06:32 PM

RE: AURORA 45
 


ORIGINAL: rainedave

If all you have is the airfoil at the fuse side and you enlarge it to the root chord, it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to make the tip airfoil about 2% thicker, or so. That's what I would do anyway. Was the BA airfoil a constant thickness?
The Blue Angel has a 15.5% root and tip airfoil.

roncoleman 11-25-2006 03:03 AM

RE: AURORA 45
 
Chris,

I got the plans a couple of days ago and they look great but
there's one little problem. One of the postal worker decided
he must do the old weapon in the mailing tube test and did a
double bent to the tube. I should have asked for folded plans.

Thanks,
Ron


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