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bob27s 08-06-2008 04:01 PM

RE: EU1A
 
1) it looked cool 2) it presented well 3) rolling manuvers were the best of anything out there.

Wayne made a good looking plane that looked different, but it still flew great.

Being large (upwards of 9 lbs) it sometimes had trouble with the vertical and energy manuvers (sq horizontal 8 was a killer....). But it made up for it otherwise.

Not everyone was successful campaigning the design, but quite a few folks made them fly on rails.

flywilly 08-06-2008 04:07 PM

RE: EU1A
 
As I recall, that was why Jeff Urcan flew the '2 snap rolls in opposite directions' maneuver. It was a K5 and allowed him to eliminate a maneuver with a lot of vertical components. It was a good strategy as he won a lot of contests with his EU1-A!
-Will

rainedave 08-06-2008 06:50 PM

RE: EU1A
 
Tom, I was thinking the same thing looking at the photo Chris posted. I really think we have to tip our hats to a designer who can create a model that looks strikingly different from the crop, yet still perform well. That rear three-quarter view looks fantastic. It looks more like a ducted fan jet than a pattern plane.

bob27s and flywilly, what was the engine of choice in this plane?

Thanks,
David

bob27s 08-06-2008 08:03 PM

RE: EU1A
 
Most had Rossi power.

Both of mine had Rossi .61 engines up front.

I think Jeff Urcan flew Rossi. Lance Murphy and some of the other CT guys flew Rossi power.

Tony Bonnetti flew Webra. I think Dean Kogar flew both Rossi and webra eventually (circus hobbies era)

Bill Commeford was very successful with OS VR power.

Hunt's plane and a few others campaigned with YS power.

One or two I recall had OPS engines up front.

It just need a good, reliable and screaming engine up front.

Yeah, the plane really excelled in Masters class where you could write your own pattern and edit out some of the hard stuff. Became a challenge at those contests that ran combined Expert/Masters flying the Expert sequence (1983 ish)

Trisquire 08-07-2008 07:18 AM

RE: EU1A
 
Thanks Guys. Interesting.

flywilly 08-07-2008 09:30 AM

RE: EU1A
 
I bet the vertical struggles would be eliminated with a Jett 100 for power :)
-Will

hrrcflyer 08-07-2008 11:24 AM

RE: EU1A
 
Will,
How right you are, as long as the wing stays attached to the plane..:D

bob27s 08-07-2008 11:34 AM

RE: EU1A
 


ORIGINAL: flywilly

I bet the vertical struggles would be eliminated with a Jett 100 for power :)
-Will

Yeah..... its possible :)

I just have to get Dub to make up some 15deg headers. Right now he only has straight and fuse top. He does have the angled o-ring adapter.... that actually might work out too.

flywilly 08-07-2008 05:20 PM

RE: EU1A
 
You'd need a wing.....:D:D

I had an EU-1A kit under my workbench when I went to the '83 nats at Westover. It was hot and the powerplants were screaming their 'brains' out trying to provide enough power. Actually, the EU-1As did very well in the first 3 classes (I think Art Fressola placed in the top 5 in expert), but not quite so well in Masters (aka FAI); Ivan K. won with a gorgeous Citation. I sold the EU-1A kit and built 2 Arrows. Wish I'd kept the EU-1A, guess I'll have to get one from Dan Hines ;) (I think his glass work is better than the original).

-Will

EddieDean 08-10-2008 01:29 AM

RE: EU1A
 
The EU1-A was my favorite of all the AMA pattern airplanes. Mike Patrick and Mike Jenkins of Lousiville, Ky built my wings and I did the rest and it weighed 9lbs with a Rossi .61 and pipe (no vertical problem at all). Used Dave Brown retracts. It had a flying stab and would fly like it was on rails. My partner, Carol Reesor, flew an EU1-A with a straight stab and elevators that weighed 9.25 lbs with a OS .61RV. It flew as well as mine except for loops. With the flying stab all you had to do was pull up (or down as the case may be) and watch. With the elevator version you had to work the elevator more to make it round. She won first place in Sportsman, I won first place in Advance and Lewis Patton won first place in Expert at the 21 Annual Mid-South Championships 1985 in Nashville. All three of us were flying EU-1As. That was one great weekend.

Long live AMA Straight Line Pattern

bob27s 08-11-2008 09:46 PM

RE: EU1A
 
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Ok, I finally dug out the old photos...

T-bird paint is my EU1-A (circa 1983-84).

Black one is Tony Bonetti's (1983 nats)

Red/White are Lance Murphy and Art Fresolo (CT, 1983)
I if I recall, the 3rd one is Bill Comerfords.

And I think the red/white/black one in the background is Jeff Urcan ??? Maybe Willy can recall too...


Deadstik 08-12-2008 06:20 AM

RE: EU1A
 
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Bob,

Nice work on the scans.... going to be a lot of great paint jobs coming up. just a small pic here.....

Dan
Carolina Custom Aircraft

WEDJ 08-12-2008 11:19 AM

RE: EU1A
 


ORIGINAL: bob27s

Red/White are Lance Murphy and Art Fresolo (CT, 1983)
I if I recall, the 3rd one is Bill Comerfords.

And I think the red/white/black one in the background is Jeff Urcan ??? Maybe Willy can recall too...
In the photo w/ people, that's definitely Bill Comerford in the far background, and I think Jeff Urcan over his EU1A with the black stripe. Definitely not Rocky Hill, maybe the Bridgeport flying field?

bob27s 08-12-2008 11:22 AM

RE: EU1A
 


ORIGINAL: WEDJ



ORIGINAL: bob27s

Red/White are Lance Murphy and Art Fresolo (CT, 1983)
I if I recall, the 3rd one is Bill Comerfords.

And I think the red/white/black one in the background is Jeff Urcan ??? Maybe Willy can recall too...
In the photo w/ people, that's definitely Bill Comerford in the far background, and I think Jeff Urcan over his EU1A with the black stripe. Definitely not Rocky Hill, maybe the Bridgeport flying field?

Photo with Jeff in it was likely Cedar Creek (Long Island)

Trisquire 08-12-2008 12:03 PM

RE: EU1A
 
Tony's looks like a Troublemaker on steroids.

Tom

dhal22 08-12-2008 02:37 PM

RE: EU1A
 
dan,

great looking fiberglass work.

david

R/C 4 ever 08-15-2008 02:26 PM

RE: EU1A
 
As of August 15,08 there is a EU-1A listed on E-Bay for anyone that is interested. It is item #330262376420.

Mastertech 08-15-2008 05:31 PM

RE: EU1A
 
Dan

Can you give us a list of kits you have available and some prices? I'm getting the itch for my youth again in Pattern.

Thanks

Tim

Deadstik 08-16-2008 10:14 AM

RE: EU1A
 
Tim,

Just send me an email at [email protected] and I'll be happy to get you out a brochure which shows the kits I have available. Right now that list includes the T2A MK I, II, III, and IV, Brushfire, New Orleanian, Patrcia, T2-40, Equalizer, Tanglefoot, Kirkland's A-6 and just getting ready to release the EU1 A. Have a couple of other great vintage birds in the works but only working on one at a time. I'll be happy to answer any of your questions concerning this kits. Thanks for the interest.

Dan
Carolina Custom Aircraft

time907356 12-09-2008 11:24 AM

RE: EU1A
 
Is anyone still watching this thread? I just joined to see if there was any activity/availibility on EU1's still around. I flew one for 1 year in 1989 in Sportsman class. It was a windy year, and I got hammered! Those things flew like kites in the breeze!! Still, I loved the plane with a passion, and it remains my favorite pattern kit of all time. I used 1/2" of anhedral in the stab; it was supposed to cure the canopy pitch tendancy on upward, vertical lines. Maybe it did, maybe it didn't; vertical likes were not usually that long to have to worry obout it! Mine was heavy at 10.3 lbs, with a OS 61RF-P, swinging the then new APC 12-10, and it struggled. I traded the next year for the most stable windy-day aircraft I could find; a Summit III. Very nice ship.
There was a few comments about hte EU1 vs. the EU1-A. I believe the currently kitted model from Dan is the EU1-A. Is there any information or camparitive data available for the original EU1, which I suppose was larger? With today's engines in mind, it would be neat to see this plane uncorked!!

hrrcflyer 12-10-2008 03:47 PM

RE: EU1A
 
Time907356,

Yes, there are still people watching this thread, some are watching very closely (like myself):). I guess we are all patiently waiting to hear from Dan that the kits are available. What a great day that will be.....:D

rcguy! 12-10-2008 09:09 PM

RE: EU1A
 
I'd love to hear about the release and some builds of this aircraft. Seems Dan is way behind schedule? Maybe I'm wrong?

A website would be nice too!

Dave

Ed Lyerly 12-10-2008 11:44 PM

RE: EU1A
 

ORIGINAL: rcguy!

Seems Dan is way behind schedule? Maybe I'm wrong?

Dave
You are not wrong, ordered my T2A at the end of August ... still waiting for a call to pick it up.
Ed

rainedave 12-11-2008 12:02 AM

RE: EU1A
 
Dan and I talk on the phone on a fairly regular basis. It is only him and his wife who do all of the work in addition to their "day jobs." I know he's trying as hard as he can to get kits ready to ship.

David

Ed Lyerly 12-11-2008 09:18 AM

RE: EU1A
 

ORIGINAL: rainedave

Dan and I talk on the phone on a fairly regular basis. It is only him and his wife who do all of the work in addition to their "day jobs." I know he's trying as hard as he can to get kits ready to ship.

David
David
Thanks for your note. I'm sure what you say is true. I'll try to be more patient.
Ed


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