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Old 07-16-2008 | 06:38 AM
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does anyone have or know where i can get an EU1A kit,i will pay top dollar,thanks!
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Dan at Carolina Aircraft is in the process of making the kit available to all of us EU1A lovers and based on the quality of the other kits he offers, it should be outstanding. The last time I emailed him, he was working out the belly pan area under the wing. Hopefully Dan will see this thread and give us an update on his progress.
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I talked to Dan last night about another plane he's making for me, we talked about the EU1A and he is still working on it. Dans operation is him and his wife, so it might talk a while but his work is perfect you will not be disapointed!! his phone # is 1-336-364-3120, best time to call him is affter 5:00 pm EST. Pete
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The EU1A Kit will be available in about 3 weeks. If you'd like to get on the waiting list, please send me an email at [email protected] and I'll let you know when your kit is available and let you know your position on the list. A new website is also in the works so I'll try to keep everyone here up to speed. I really appreciate the interest....it's the day job thing that always seems to get in the way.... My kit will be from the original mold but the materials will be quite improved. I use only S fiberglass and aerospace grade epoxy plus the lighest in high grade foam. I would think this kit will weigh perhaps as much as a pound less than the original. More to come.....


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Old 07-16-2008 | 05:14 PM
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Dan,

Great news about the EU1A!!!. That's the best news I've gotten in a long time. I know a few people who are going to be more than excited about getting their hands on one of your kits. I'm also sure there are allot of people who share in my gratitude to you for making the EU1A available to us again. I know you have spent a tremendous amount of time and effort in doing so.

Thank you very much!!!
Old 07-16-2008 | 06:45 PM
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I know you have spent a tremendous amount of time and effort in doing so.
Ahhhh Yeah...I know too...

And those dang day jobs...They are screwing me up too!! (But I ain't quittin'.. )

Very Good News!! Congratulations on bringing the EU-1A to fruition!!

Old 07-16-2008 | 07:01 PM
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Dan, is this model designed to use a 15° rear header, or will a fuse top header work, too?

Thanks,
David
Old 07-17-2008 | 11:22 AM
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thanks for the reply's,I spoke with Dan,production is a couple weeks away!
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Hello everyone,

After Dan sells a few kits, I suppose our next hurdle would be trying to convince someone to do a build thread on the kit here on RCU. Realizing that it takes allot of time to do one. Unfortunately, my building skills are not up to the EU1A level yet, so I wouldn't be a good candidate for the thread.[] I would however be one of the dedicated followers of the thread, learning everything I can about the build along the way.

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Wasn't the Eu1-a the airplane that Dean Pappas used for 'Project Pattern' (in Flying Models Magazine) 25 years ago or so?? Great series of articles - I'm pretty sure I have them somewhere...
An updated version would be cool!!
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Old 07-18-2008 | 07:06 AM
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Flywilly,

I believe you are correct. I also remember an article a few years ago in one of the magazines about the EU1A and its different variations. The author discussed the horizontal stab and why some people left it flat while others built it with an anhedral stab. A good friend of mine flew an EU1A for years here on the east coast when he was flying pattern competitions. He said the plane was slightly on the heavy side, but flew the plane with the anhedral stab and a YS140 and it was his favorite pattern plane of all time.
Old 07-18-2008 | 08:34 AM
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Will,

I've got all the MAN articles on the original EU1A and an Original construction booklet but I DO NOT have a copy Dean Pappa's Project Pattern. I would really appreciate a copy if you can dig that out. It would sort of be a nice add on for the kit. Thanks,

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Old 07-18-2008 | 11:24 AM
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i think i'll build mine with an anhedral stab like my magic 60,it looks cool !
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I am planning the anhedral stab with a Blue Angels color scheme. It should look a lot like a pattern F-4 like that.[8D]

Mark
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Hi Dan,
I'll start digging...
There was a Nats photo from many years ago of a 'gaggle' (I think that was actually the term used in the caption - squadron would have been more applicable) of EU1-As all with Blue Angels color scheme. Looks great on the ground but has occasional visibility issues - disregarding the posibility of having several identical aircraft in the air at the same time. I've always wanted to put a USAF Thunderbirds paint scheme on one... Maybe the time has come
-Will
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david,

i'm flying an original eu1a built from the aero composites kit. it has been powered with the os61vf and now the ys60fr. both engine installations use a 15 degree header from macs products. i found that the bent (fuse-top) type header wont work due to clearance problems. any questions call me 484-467-3762. sam
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Thanks Sam. From the photos it looked like the 15° type.

David
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Hi Dan,
I have most, but not all, of the issues of Flying Models which had the Project Pattern series. The series ran from 5/84 to 9/86, but not continuously. I am missing the following issues: 7/84, 8/84, 9/84, 11/84, 2/85, 3/85, 5/85 and 1/86. I do not know if the Project Pattern articles appeared in all of those issues. I do know that the cover of the 1/86 issue featured the Project Pattern EU-1A.
I would love to buy the missing back issues if somebody has them and wants to part with them (I'm missing some more issues from my collection, too. I think the last move they may have been packed in an incorrectly labeled box <I'm still hoping to find them...> or worse [&o])
At the very least, I'd like copies of the missing articles (and cover) at your cost, of course.
Thanks,
Will B.
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Just so happens I do have a original EU-1A kit in the box that I would be willing to sell. I have the form cores plus instruction book too. Also have a Supertiger 60RE series X and tuned pipe that goes with it. I have been meaning to post it all for sale but I have not educated myself as to how the process works. I have bought stuff on line before but I have never sold anything yet.

Anyway guys if you are interested make me a offer and we will go from there. I'm not real sure what a fair price would be. The engine has never been run according to the information I have. I do not have the original box the engine came in.

Chuck
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Hi Guys. Just got an Aero Composites EU1-A that I have been coveting for years since I first saw them at the 85 Nats. The paper stuffing in the wing core box is dated Dec 3, 1983 on Dayton Daily News. Got NIB Rossi 90 FIRE in same deal. Promised guy I purchased it that I would not reveal price, but, you would NOT believe what I paid. I am #5 on Dan's list and will still buy that one, cause I promised to buy it.
Now the reason for this post. As you can see in the pics, the gel coat is bubbling up. I have never seen anything like this and it's weard cause it's only peeling on one side of the body. The glass under the peeling surfaces is in good shape. I DO NOT know how or what to do from here. Does anybody have any idea how to fix this? Will the rest of the body peel up on the flight line if I don't address the problem after fixing the bad spots? Any Help is appreceiated.

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Old 08-04-2008 | 07:43 PM
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Boy, that is MOST strange! Appears that some volital liquid didn't properly evaporate/mix/cure when the fuse was curing. I would slice them open, strip them off, and re-do the resin (or epoxy)
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This is just a guess/theory:

I'm not sure how aero composites laid up there fuses?? It appears they may have used a resin rich face coat technique..

For a resin rich face coat they would first "paint" a thin layer of resin in the mold and let it tack or flash off..Then proceed with the rest of the laminate...Only problem is if you let the face coat flash off too much you loose the window for a chemical bond to take place...If that happens you must scuff sand prior to continuing or adhesion will suffer...It appears they might have exceeded that window??

I imagine they laid the fuse up in halves and joined them after they cured which would explain one good side and one which is peeling..

I'd imagine the fuse is fine from a structural standpoint...Just a cosmetic sort of problem..

Just a theory..



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One thing you could do to help ensure you don't have a perpetual problem is a tape adhesion test...You would use some strong masking tape (ie: good quality 3M)...Adhere a strip of tape to the fuse and briskly pull it off (Only if you can do so without risking damage to the fuselage from buckling ect...If that is a concern remove it more gingerly or use a less aggressive tape such as scotch tape ect..)

Repeat this process until you have covered the whole fuse..

We do this process on full scale aircraft to test paint adhesion (spot testing of course.. )

Chuck
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Hi Dan,
I'll start digging...
There was a Nats photo from many years ago of a 'gaggle' (I think that was actually the term used in the caption - squadron would have been more applicable) of EU1-As all with Blue Angels color scheme. Looks great on the ground but has occasional visibility issues - disregarding the posibility of having several identical aircraft in the air at the same time. I've always wanted to put a USAF Thunderbirds paint scheme on one... Maybe the time has come
-Will

Here is a scan of the Hunt/Pappas EU-1 in T-Birds paint scheme, really nicely finished.
Chris...
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Old 08-06-2008 | 02:15 PM
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Just keepin an eye out here for the kits

I watched Dean and Bob fly the EU-1A quite a few times. Bob even placed VERY well with it at the NATS that year in sportsman class. The articles are very useful for building the plane and for the "ARF" crowd of today can be a great lesson in the craftsmanship the really makes one a "modeller".

I flew 2 EU-1A aircraft - one I built, one I bought. Both flew great.

Took me a while to learn how to land it well.... tended to float in ground effect... but after that, no issues.

Flying tip: On the point rolls, get the rudder in a little early as you roll to the knife edge point... too late and the nose will drop out
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The proportions are different from most classic pattern ships. The wide wing chord and long fuselage. What was the advantage?

Tom


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