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Old 01-11-2010 | 01:31 AM
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Not to be confused with the Joy Products biplane of the same name, Thi plane was designed by Duke Fox for the Fox .07 compact stunt engine.

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Old 01-15-2010 | 06:46 PM
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The story I heard is that Fox built the .07 first then realized they weren't selling any because nobody made a plane for that size engine. Oops. So they went into the airplane business.

It has some truly goofy features. It has a built-up fuse except for the canopy which is profile. The thing that really makes it stand out though, are the 'sky hooks'. Nothing quite like sticking a couple of rudders on the wings to get it to stay out on the lines.

The die cutting was poor even for the time period. 'Micro finished' was a real stretch. It did have good wood though. Mine finished at 11.3 oz.

I hated to bash a kit that was that rare but I got rid of the profile canopy and finished it off. I also dumped the 'sky hooks' and added adjustable lead outs and a tip weight box. I think it turned out rather attractive.

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Old 01-15-2010 | 08:21 PM
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Walt, thanks for your reply my friend. Your Stunt Runt looks great.

"except for the canopy which is profile"
Each time I have looket at the picture it seemed to me that I was looking at a profile thing on top but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying that for us. Your treatment looks like it should. Very nice.

" The story I heard is that Fox built the .07 first then realized they weren't selling any because nobody made a plane for that size engine. Oops. So they went into the airplane business."

You may have heard that but there were plenty of control line planes kitted before during and afterwards that could use this engine. Pretty much any plane designed for the .049 could easily use this engine, Scientific had a large number of kits that were rated from .020-.074 as seen in this catalog page from the 1950s and some were rated for up to .099.
Enterprise and Monarch model kits also fit the bill. Surely there were others.

As for going into the airplane buisiness, Fox bought Berkeley! That did not last of course.


skaliwag in post seven of this thread: http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_9411644/tm.htm would like a copy of the plan! I would too If I may. Digitised preferably.

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Old 01-16-2010 | 12:34 AM
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Robert,

When I got my Fox .07 it did not come with a tank. I don't think many new modelers building Scientific kits would convert them to beam mounted. Perhaps if they got the Comet version with the tank, a Scientific kit would work well, albeit a bit fast. I used OK Cubs and a Space Bug Junior for my Scientifics back then.

Berkeley kits... Everyone should have built at least one. Didn't take Duke long to realize he had bought a "pig in a poke".

Berkeley's saving grace is that they had good plans.

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Old 01-16-2010 | 06:17 AM
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"I don't think many new modelers building Scientific kits would convert them to beam mounted."
George, you make a very good point there. I had not thought of that.
Still the tank was an option and surely there were radial type mounts ala Tatone and the like? The tank fit both the 07 and the .049 and was available seperatly (see pic).

Scientific had a couple of larger 22 inch span planes and who can forget the wonderful CG Jumpin' Bean? I bet that would have been OK.
The Monarch Spitfire and P40 models were up to .099 and had beam or radial mounting in the kit.

Honestly I did come along in modeling about ten years after the Stunt Runt and Fox 07 were introduced so I can't speak from personal experience as you can about that time period and now I have the more experienced mind like yourself. I bet it was different then to beginners. Besides you could get away cheaper with the Cox 049 and that I believe is why the Fox 07 coulden't keep pace. It was about 2 dollars more and that was about the price of a kit! Well almost.

"Berkeley kits... Everyone should have built at least one."
Sad to say I have never had one. I have seen lots of pictures. Some more impressive than others!

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Old 01-16-2010 | 12:36 PM
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I don't have a wide format copier so I'm afraid this is the best I can do. I did take a series of high res shots I could email to anyone interested. The photos are at least quite readable.

Or, If someone with a big copier wants to get ambitious, I'd be happy to loan them out. Anyone have raster to vector software? Be nice to have a cad file.

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Old 01-16-2010 | 01:45 PM
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Hello Walt!
I have a copy service here in town that will do them but I'm on on the other coast, however, you have
at least two in Chico (I looked) that should be able to do it:
<ul>[*]Ellis A&amp;E Reprographics  (530) 891-6309[*]<span class="tel">Sir Speedy Printing Center (530) 893-2555</span>[/list]<span class="tel"></span>If you get them in digital format (JPG), I'd love to see 'em.
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heh! the "sky hooks look about as I had imagined them!
They may look pretty silly but they might be a good idea. I think I would give it a go on some models. Beside looking rather strange, the biggest problem I can see using these would be an extra piece to break off on les that ideal landings.

Please don't think I belive they are something great, but they may have some merit. I am thinking of variations a little more decorative...

The only way to really test these things would be to build two identical models and have one with, the other without and fly them back to back under the same conditions.

Thanks for taking that picture and sharing with us. Preserving the plan design in CAD sounds like a decent idea.

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Hello Walt!
I have a copy service here in town that will do them but I'm on on the other coast, however, you have
at least two in Chico (I looked) that should be able to do it:
<ul>[*]Ellis A&E Reprographics (530) 891-6309[*]<span class=''tel''>Sir Speedy Printing Center (530) 893-2555</span>[/list]<span class=''tel''></span>If you get them in digital format (JPG), I'd love to see 'em.
Troy

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Another idea would be Kinkos.
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Yes, I'm familiar with the large format services in town. Like I said, if someone else wants to deal with it, I'll be happy to stick'em in a box and loan 'em out. [8D]
You're even welcome to erase the modifications I sketched on the print.

I took a shot of the now famous (infamous?) skyhook.

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Old 01-20-2010 | 01:05 AM
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I now have the Stunt Runt kit however it may be missing a few smaller items.

The box reads:
"Special reverse flow tank"
and
"bent wire parts"

The tank:
I have the two tank end caps and two fairly short copper tubes. Not enough parts to build the tank.
No instructions on the plan for assembling the tank.

The only bent wire part in the box is the elevator joiner.
Did you have to bend your own landing gear?
No where on the plan is there shown a full size pattern for bending the main gear.

There is no bell crank or the mounting hardware

Robert
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Hi Robert,
I sent pictures of the tank with the other pictures. Did you not get them?
Walt
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Yes I did get those pictures. Very nice.

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