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Old 04-12-2005 | 06:11 AM
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No pics but a good story...

Was flying my own design 40 " Delta with a tt 36 Pro with and 8*8 prop at a field that shall remain nameless with two other planes in the air.

Called for a low fast pass from right and heard no objections and at three feet above the ground as I exited the low pass at end of run way low an behold some one flying the wrong direction brings his 40" plane across my path and wham must have hit at a combined speed of over 160 mph. The noise was awesome and both planes were a write off. No apology...but that’s life and part of the risk. Will post some after pics soon. Should have known better to stay out of the bloody red barons way when his in the air even though it was not my fault have learnt my lesson just will not fly when he is in the air.....

Old 04-12-2005 | 07:29 AM
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I've got about 9 or 10 midairs trough the years I fly. Always each pilot has to deal his own costs which I think is normal.
Maybe he has not heard you asking. I don't think you realy can blame him (neither that he can blame you for this).
Each should stay calm keep friends, it's just a model plane... (that is what I keep saying to myself when this happens)

sorry for your loss
Old 04-12-2005 | 07:42 AM
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... Should have known better to stay out of the bloody red barons way when his in the air even though it was not my fault have learnt my lesson just will not fly when he is in the air.....
Hmmm ... it sounds like there is no love lost with the 'Red Baron', I am going to assume that this individual has a reputation for not being the nicest chap around... and is the type that thinks he owns the place...

I'm sure there is a bigger story here just waiting to be told...
Old 04-12-2005 | 07:52 AM
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You are both right and to me its only a plane ....and just annoyed but you learn from each flight and crash and walk away richer..in knowledge and poorer in the pocket.

The saftey issues scares me and I will restrict my flying of speed planes to well faster planes to quieter times and stay high and away from other flyers...as I would not want my indirect actions to cause los or damamge to any person. The planes could have gone anywhere after the crash given the high closing speeds....I have learnt to anticipate better as far as other pilots are concerned.

No grude lifes to short... but will always point out unsafe flying for saftey sake and expect the same if I do something wrong...you dont learn unless someone helps you allong the way...whether this chap learns remains to be seen but wont give up passing helpfull comment if the need arises.

Will post pics to show whats left of my prototype delta... she will fly anew once it get a few hours build time...

Thanks for comments...

PS there are always to sides to a story.....

Old 04-12-2005 | 08:11 AM
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Is there a video?
Sorry for the loss. Hope it flies as good as it did before.
Old 04-13-2005 | 07:19 AM
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@ arc007
You have the right spirit! Sure there are 2 sides on each story.
Sorry for you’re loss, but rebuild it and make it better. With speed planes you have to be careful, but others also have to watch out when there is a speed plane in the air.
And yes, there are pilots that I’d rather not fly with, because you have to keep an eye on their plane all the time to be safe. I guess that every club has his "red barons".
Old 04-13-2005 | 04:03 PM
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flying rc is a dangerous sport, and every time you fly, you take a risk of crashing, however, when you called out your intentions, he should have either acknowledged them, and kept out of the area, or objected. Thats why they have air traffic control, because with out it, people would blindly be smashing each other every minute or so. If it were me, id sue teh guy, just for stupidity.
Old 04-13-2005 | 04:12 PM
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Good luck sueing over a model like that... U'd lose more money than he..
Old 04-15-2005 | 06:45 AM
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Here is a picture of what was left of my proto type delta...version two will follow in a week when I get some time to kock it up.....

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Old 04-15-2005 | 10:54 AM
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What a shame! Looks like a FAST plane. Can't wait for version 2 to come out!
Old 04-15-2005 | 04:25 PM
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Ok I will play the devils advocate-

Did you call your intentions to the left and right to make sure everyone heard?

Were you loud, could wind or plane noise interfered with your call?

How much time had passed from your call to the pass? Long short etc....

How did this guy fly the wrong direction??

And you said that you collided while exiting the low pass- I take it you were maneuvering in some way not flying rock steady 3' above the runway..

This is not a flame in any way I just don't agree with total blame falling on a nameless individual who is not here to defend himself... I am sorry for the loss I am a big fan of flying wings...
Old 04-18-2005 | 04:01 AM
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Hey no mans perfect...and I accept some of the blame as I ws involved in the haed to head....

In response three other flyers on the line heard my call and acknowledgede it ....
every one but was flyin clock wise given the wind direction ...

and you are rigt he is not her to defend himself and the most important thing of all....

I learnt a lesson....never assume that every other flyer on the line is aware of your intentions even if you call and I only fly my fast planes when ther are less than three other planes in the air and the other pilots are use to fast planes buzzing arround....

I vented a bit at the sart of this thread but injected some humour with naming him the Red Barron......

ACR007




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