Blade CP vs CPP
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Anyone here own both? What are the differences between the two? I know the CPP has the hiller mixer, Li-Po, symme blades, aerobatic motor with heat sinks, reverse pitch RX system. Just wondering how close I am to having a CP-PRO with all the mods I've done to my CP.
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Crashcrash,
Yep, I have both. CP and CP Pro. The Pro give you the options to go to a brushless motor and a Head Holding gyro. And what you mentioned. The CP doesn't have the options to go brushless or HH gyro. The CP has a 4-in-1 controller and the Pro has a 3-in-1.
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Yep, I have both. CP and CP Pro. The Pro give you the options to go to a brushless motor and a Head Holding gyro. And what you mentioned. The CP doesn't have the options to go brushless or HH gyro. The CP has a 4-in-1 controller and the Pro has a 3-in-1.
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Anyone here own both? What are the differences between the two? I know the CPP has the hiller mixer, Li-Po, symme blades, aerobatic motor with heat sinks, reverse pitch RX system. Just wondering how close I am to having a CP-PRO with all the mods I've done to my CP.
Anyone here own both? What are the differences between the two? I know the CPP has the hiller mixer, Li-Po, symme blades, aerobatic motor with heat sinks, reverse pitch RX system. Just wondering how close I am to having a CP-PRO with all the mods I've done to my CP.
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Thanks. What do you feel are the positive points and negative points of the CPP. I have a CP, and I'm hovering quite well but haven't moved to tail out hover as yet because of stability/control problems that I haven't figured out yet. Got parts on order that may correct this and I put a new 4-1 on but probs are still there (Li-Po/ running a stock motor issues I think). I also read that the CPP is more difficult to fly. Tell me the compairsons...what do you think?
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I own and fly both, I honestly believe the CP is harder to fly.
The superior cyclic response on the Pro makes it much easier to keep steady in hover, I think.
The superior cyclic response on the Pro makes it much easier to keep steady in hover, I think.
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people say that flat bottom blades are easier too but it's the other way in my opnion. Semmetricals seem to be more responsive in my book. I shall ponder the CPP as my next heli (got to at least get the CP working right).
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Crashcrash,
Pros and cons of the CPP. That's a tuff question to answer, I started with a CX to begin. Then the CP, it was a handful for me, but once I understood the importance of the mechanical setup, everything fell into place. At first, my hovers were all over the place, now, I can do that in a 1 foot square all day. But it took me a long time to get there, alot of patience and alot of broken parts.
Anyway to your question, the postitive for the CPP, as I mentioned in a earlier post, the ability to upgrade to brushless motor(about $100) and a head holding gyro(another $100), the negative, Hmmmm, can't think of any. It really depends where you want to go with this hobby. If say in a years time, you want something a little bigger and more powerful, stay with the CP for now and get a Trex 450se down the road. Wish I knew then, what I know now, guess it's all part of the learning curve.
What kind of problem are you having with your CP, maybe I can help.
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Pros and cons of the CPP. That's a tuff question to answer, I started with a CX to begin. Then the CP, it was a handful for me, but once I understood the importance of the mechanical setup, everything fell into place. At first, my hovers were all over the place, now, I can do that in a 1 foot square all day. But it took me a long time to get there, alot of patience and alot of broken parts.
Anyway to your question, the postitive for the CPP, as I mentioned in a earlier post, the ability to upgrade to brushless motor(about $100) and a head holding gyro(another $100), the negative, Hmmmm, can't think of any. It really depends where you want to go with this hobby. If say in a years time, you want something a little bigger and more powerful, stay with the CP for now and get a Trex 450se down the road. Wish I knew then, what I know now, guess it's all part of the learning curve.
What kind of problem are you having with your CP, maybe I can help.
Dave / Choppersrule
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Thanks. What do you feel are the positive points and negative points of the CPP. I have a CP, and I'm hovering quite well but haven't moved to tail out hover as yet because of stability/control problems that I haven't figured out yet. Got parts on order that may correct this and I put a new 4-1 on but probs are still there (Li-Po/ running a stock motor issues I think). I also read that the CPP is more difficult to fly. Tell me the compairsons...what do you think?
Thanks. What do you feel are the positive points and negative points of the CPP. I have a CP, and I'm hovering quite well but haven't moved to tail out hover as yet because of stability/control problems that I haven't figured out yet. Got parts on order that may correct this and I put a new 4-1 on but probs are still there (Li-Po/ running a stock motor issues I think). I also read that the CPP is more difficult to fly. Tell me the compairsons...what do you think?
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I upgraded to 800mha Li-Po's, it yo-yo's, it drifts, the tail motor constantly whips up and down in speed. I may have a bad main motor, so I ordered a 370/heatsink combo. Everything else including the 4-1 is NEW. I won't know for sure until I replace the main motor. I can hover it and when I apply more power for a 3 ft + hover...it goes nuts with the tail motor whipping, the yo-yo, and it's all over the place (hard to hold it in a 3ft square area). Just gotta wait for the motor upgrade.
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Have you tried to adjust the gyro on the 4-in-1? I know that has to be adjusted when you switch to a LiPo. It sounds like the gyro is going kind of crazy. Just a thought.
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Have you tried to adjust the gyro on the 4-in-1? I know that has to be adjusted when you switch to a LiPo. It sounds like the gyro is going kind of crazy. Just a thought.
Have you tried to adjust the gyro on the 4-in-1? I know that has to be adjusted when you switch to a LiPo. It sounds like the gyro is going kind of crazy. Just a thought.
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According to "experts" when you switch to Li-Po's, you've gotta upgrade to a motor that can handle it. Also, the stock motor has 10T pinion, and the 370 upgrade has 9T pinion. I put a new 4-1 in thinking that was the problem, nothing changed...still the same probs. I know how to set the gain and proportional to optimal settings and if all is going fine and I don't push it, I can hover pack after pack with no problems. After I change the main motor, all that's left is the TX and servos that is original on this heli. Hopefully I can gain some stability after I do that. The servos appear to be functioning fine.



