Strongs words I know but I'm convinced after a couple months this helicopter is only made for simple hovering around INDOORS. I took mine oustide again for the 3rd time and managed to crash hard twice in 10 minutes destroying all blades and bending both shafts again. This thing simply is highly unstable at any kind of fast flight.

Those of you thinking I simply can't fly, trust me, I've flown planes for 20 years, everything from pattern to pylon. I know how to be smooth. After much trial and error I'm certain these coaxial helicopters simply aren't designed to fly quickly like a full collective. They are made to fly indoors and hover around which gets old quick in my opinion.

If I had it to do, I'd get one of those Airhog Reflex 4 channel coaxial helicopters for $65 to hover around inside the house. Live and learn.

Anyone wanting a CX2 with 7 batteries, 3chargers, Xtreme motors, boomtown skids/boom kit and tons of others parts, it'll be on Ebay soon. I'm moving up to a Blade 400 or gas equivalent.

It says right in the manual that the CX2 is designed as an indoor only or zero wind helicopter.
I know of very few places, if any, where there is truely zero wind outside.

And you are correct, coaxial's are not designed to fly quickly like a full collective heli.
They are designed to provide a stable hover for beginners.

Wolf said it, if your looking for something to tear up the skies with your going to have to move to single rotor fixed pitch or collective pitch. Fixed for scale flight, collective pitch for 3d.

Its not designed for speed or aglility. again like everyone else is saying this is an indoor helicopter. What kind of speed do you need indoors? and why?
Take an outdoor helicopter and tried to fly it around indoors like a cx.

Wow. I am sorry you are having that experience with your CX2. I shortened my flybar removed the huge tail boom and replaced it with a carbon fiber, moved me servos out to #3 position, put DNPower batteries in it and WOW! It was a "trainer" when I bought it but now.......fun as heck! The only thing I won't do with it is fly with wind beyond a light breeze. Early mornings and late evening but mother of god it hauls butt! My particular CX2 isn't garbage, its amazing with minor tweaks all I can do is think about calm dayz. Good luck!

Rikybob

The CX2 is a wonderful, precision INDOOR flyer just like it was designed to be. We have two running at my house and they give us zero trouble and fly rock solid. "Garbage", I don't think so

Want to up the excitment indoors, build some standing pylons and have timed races around the course against friends! No one around here can beat me with my tuned "Goldslinger flybar" equipped CX2[8D]

You people are taking the bait...man, with that kind of experience this guy must be right....oh yea, post the link when its on Ebay.............................................. .....

I have flown my CX (now is a CX2 with all the mods) in some pretty harsh conditions and come out just fine. Someone else mentioned that a few tweaks can make these awesome and its true. I have had my heli 100 ft. up and was able to bring it back safely. Go figure.....

lol..i dont understand what the problem is..i fly my twin rotor robbins and my walkera lama out side and never crashed..i think they are a ton of fun..i almost did a complete loop with mine..all seven of my dual rotor helis run fine .with wind or with out..i just know how to fly one thats all..i have full colective heis as well and i enjoy my dual rotor helis the best..and what even more exciting is my 9 year old daughter can fly one outside and she has had some hard landings but never bent shafts or any thing..i think you just need practice or you are over confident..lol...i am going to do a video next week and loop one of my dual rotor helis just to show people it can be done...ps i think the cx2 and all the cps and especialy the 400 pro helis are total junk!!!!,,the only thing the 400 pro is good for is a looking piece..and still it doesnt look that good..lol,,well anyways good luckto ya!! try a robbins 22 those helis fly awsome..and they do handle well in the wind..

After much trial and error? Damn, woudn't it have been easier just to read the manual where it states that the heli is for indoor use only? A little research goes a long way before purchasing RCs. No one ever claimed the CX was menat for fast forward flight like a CP. Calling it garbage though, because you didn't do the proper research before a purchase is pretty ridiculous.

I think you and I have the exact same setup. I have:
-shorter flybar from boomtown
-carbon tail boom from boomtown
-DN 850 packs
-Xtreme motors
-conrol horns moved to third position on servos

(by the way: this isn't a slam on boomtown hobbies, all their products work incredibly well. I think the design of this heli is simply very limited in what it can do.

It's more agile and powerful for sure, problem is when transitioning from faster flight it becomes higly unstable, begins to wobble and simply crashes to the ground uncontrolably. I am VERY careful not to give extreme movements on the stick either. My first flight today I had it going "maybe" 20 mph and pulled back on the elevator and it simply pitched FORWARD and nosed into the ground. It may have been due to blade clack, it was violent and sudden. After repairing, second flight was much the same, decent foward momentum, gave gently left aileron and some left rudder to bring the tail around and it again falls out of the sky. Blew my mind how unstable this thing is. Only thing I've flown as unstable was a Great Planes Cap 21, would high speed snap roll like crazy. I had to move the CG way foward to somewhat cure it.

Um, I did my research trust me. I talked to local hobby shop owners, read the forums and checked out videos online. No one strictly forbid flying these outside. Besides, once you've made the purchase, isn't it a bit late to get this "warning" from the manual?

Regarding the manual stating the CX2 is an "indoor helicopter only", I'm reading the manual right now, it states "If you have to make your first flight outdoors, you MUST pick a time when wind conditions are COMPLETELY CALM." So before you guess at what the manual says, please check your facts. I flew tonight at 5:30, zero wind I might add.

Here's the problem, you spend way more for something that is only capable of what much cheaper toy helicopters are. I've flown one of the Airhog Reflex's and for the money you save it's perfect for simple hovering around. I bought the CX2 with the mindset it would capable of a bit more performance, which I've found out it simply isn't. Don't get me started on the outrageous money you'll spend on parts to fix it. The hop ups I take full responsibility for, but these blades and bent shafts get rediculous in a hurry.

Exactly who am I trying to bait? I'm being totally honest about my experience with this product. Read my previous posts if you think I'm trying to initiate conflict, I'm not. I'm simply frustrated when something as expensive as this fails to perform.

I've run into this problem with select RC gas cars. Some are made so cheaply they self destruct before going through even a gallon of gas. Others are well built, have high quality gears, driveshafts etc. and perform well for the duration. These companies thrive on selling replacement parts, which is beginning to feel very familiar with Eflight.

the flybar is trying to fight with the cyclic inputs....

if you spin up the heli and hold it in your hand and then try to move it around pitching/yawing etc
with your hand [not the TX controls]
you will feel at a certain point where the flybar trys to vibrate and the heli does as well...this is the point where you loose all lift from the upper and lower rotors[and fall from the sky]

i had so many crashes myself like as you describe as i mainly fly outdoors
and have learned how to fix bent shafts. the only thing i replace mainly are the blades as i still use stock ones and not the Xtremes.


the CX2 was not designed to do fast forward flights and banking turns it really wants to fly steady and slow
with your flying skills I think youre ready for the next
step!! the Single rotor helis!!

good luck

let us know how your doing with the new heli

You seem very fustrated with your CX2. I get like that too after I crash and have to do repairs, but thats what the hobby of flying helicopters is about. I think you might be expecting too much out of this little heli. If you did research before your purchase you would of understood that this is for indoors. I don't see how you can compair a Airhog Reflex to an CX2, Thats not even close. Your compairing a kids toy to an adults, thats just two different classes. Thats like compairing the CX2 to the 400. I consider the CX2 to be the "best in its CLASS" I have bought the "cheap stuff" and they are "CHEAP". Mastering a CX2 will teach a very good lession in flying helicopters and that is DON"T push it's and your own limits or you will be calling it "Garbage". Well on the other hand the CX2 isn't for everyone. I personaly will never move up to more advanced helicopters, I love the fact that I can fly whenever I want indoors and stay warm.

Check out this link, it might help change your feelings about the cx2. They are great fun.

Tips/Repair/Guides/Mods Links
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_68...tm.htm#6821632

Well im just waiting for my cp turning up, i had my cx2 stolen last week so most would say ...... nevermind get the cp and just move on, but no way ! Yes im getting cp but i am also getting another cx2 because its just so good

Ive flown it outside in mild / calm winds and had all the mods on and it flies great, yes not like a cp but then again its not a cp

Its a great trainer bird and confidence builder so im getting another one, 1) To practice orientation on 2) To fly at night indoors when its warm

Yes the design issnt perfect but if you follow rices link page above all these mods will take the cx2 to its limits and then it will take loads of enviromental abuse and still leave a smile on your face and your wallet in your pocket

Just got through flying my garbage around outside at first light. I have ran through 4 paks and coming back for more! I luv my garbage!


Rikybob

Well if you can fly this smooth with the CX2 then you wouldn't be crashing it now would you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nXU6iTE4uQ

DaxFX with his stock CX2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=f9nBurDLNm8

I know you said you did your research but if you bought it thinking it was somehow comarable to a collective pitch heli then your research was garbage. Good luck on the next heli. I bet you'll never crash it!

Hey! Garbage is as garbage does!. Good thing he's not flying the "Havoc". He would have killed it.

Thanks Kamov, have you figured out how to reduce these high(er) speed crashes or do you just not fly it that way anymore?

Rice,
I have learned much from your posts especially, thank you for that. Trust me, I've read the tops/repairs etc. thoroughly. Garbage was probably too strong of a word, it's in my opinion the CX2 is a poor value given what it costs initially and cost to repair compared to other toy heliopters (they're all toys, let's be real) I've flown the Airhog Reflex and it does exactly what the CX2 does and seems to be more durable too. It looks and is much cheaper but flight characteristics are equal. I was hoping the CX2 would have "some" more advanced flight characterstics possible but after much trial and error it's evident this is simply not the case.

The CX2 IS top of it's class for coaxial heli's, true. But you pay the price and for me it's not worth it.

BGM,
Those two videos were about as unimpressive as anything I've seen. The first video was a joke, you think that's impressive? I've seen the second video and only the first half was viewable the video was so bad. Much of what he does perfectly illustrates what I'm talking about. Notice after straight foward flight he trys to turn it. It immediatly drops 10-20 feet. It does this time after time. Never did he maintain speed and bank at the same time. This video, if anything, backs up my claim that these helicopters aren't capable of this kind of flight.

It's obvious my research was garbage, I never would have gone down this road knowing what little it was capable of and how expensive it was to maintain.

Yep, I knew something stunk of garbage. I actually think both videos are fairly impressive, especially the first one as that is really how the CX is meant to be flown, and unlike you I actually watched these videos before I bought the CX2 so i knew what I was in for and I already owned a collective pitch helicopter so I wasn't looking for a substitute.

Well your time with the airhog was either very limited or your understanding of how the CX2 works is very limited.


http://www.rcuniverse.com/magazine/a...article_id=831

I'm not sure why I'm debating this with someone who uses an avatar of Scooby Do. Regardless, that Air Hog write up was accurate and very similar to how the CX2 flys. Any elevator or aileron input affects the throttle as well on the CX2, so what's the difference?

At the end of the day, this all subjective and this is my opinion, I think I'm entitled to it. The CX2 is overpriced for what it's capable of and there are far cheaper substitutes that do the exact same thing.