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chopperdudes 01-21-2007 06:50 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
hmmmmm... brushless bcp, think it's around 2200 on hover? i dun have it, but here is a very famous vid with an upgraded bcpp:
http://media.putfile.com/Hyper-BCP-Pro-10906
and here's the thread all about it:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t=580952&pp=15
AeroDave, no problem. i've not tried traveling piros yet but can already piro as long as i want in controlled, not really on the spot, but can keep on doing it without crashing in my living room, with a good piro rate too. backward flights i've worked on, but right now i'm mainly focused on getting inverted hovering down... bad luck today, went outside and did some low circuits, and a glitch came by and grounded my blade... was about 30sec into the flight[:@] i've heard of the 43-100 EPA but never knew why it's dat way, i set it up all myself and basically have a 100-100 EPA on my futaba 7c, even though stock esc should reach full throttle at about 70%. however, when i want 100% throttle (esc) at 100% throttle curve (tx), i'd need to lower my high endpoint to around 40, yes, it's weird, that's why i just get it back up to 100-100 and have a 100% throttle curve all the way for idle up. i'm running 100% throttle at hover too... dunno why, but i like it taht way, i have about 25 expo on normal but 0 on idle up, i perfer a linear cyclic as i almost crashed banking with expo.

AeroDave 01-21-2007 07:03 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
That sucks, dude. At least it wasnt a Stratus, or something expensive. I was just mentioning those moves to say how well the tail worked. With the DD, I think it reacts faster because there is much less spool up time for the tail. So even with the stock gyro its better.

mykul812 01-21-2007 07:08 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
I agree! I just finished the brushless as well as the headlocking G90 gyro. Next stop is the DX7 spektrum. I like the response that I get with the motor and the gyro really does the trick. The main sound I hear from the motors is the DD tail. It sounds like a bee buzzing!


Then I plan on going with the Trex since I have been told my LHS guru that it actually is much more stable!

Michael

chopperdudes 01-21-2007 07:18 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
it's actually flying by now. the frame broke, but i managed to use some string and drops of CA to get it together, the canopy's totally busted, blades grips broke, but glued them back together (yes, it works, even though they are bound to break on a crash, but will hold up well enough to fly), spindle bent, got a spare one... and i'm flying in the living room again. (i'll get a canopy and frame when i get to go to my lhs) (i can't fly it outside now because i dun have a canopy, really hard to tell orienation when it gets far, and also need protection for lipo)

i know, with the dd tail, the tail will hold much better.

now i've found another problem... at full throttle bout 0~1 degree of pitch, the blades will flutter... this results in rapid changement (i know, it's not a word) of positive to negative to postive pitch... what i noticed was that all 3 servos are fluttering as well, not like in a glitch, but i am 99% sure it's the slop in the s75. in positive pitch, air drag created by the blades will fixthe position of the servos and decreasing the slop, but at around 0 pitch, the blades will flutter, not much a problem when flying really, just that the bird will jump/skip just before take off.

noguy 01-21-2007 07:21 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
B_dub,
Man sorry to hear your throwing in the towel[:o]
Heli's takes mucho mucho time and patience to learn and I dont care what anyone says this bcpp is not a good beginner heli. It can be a begginer heli but for small electrics in the lower price range a simple fixed pitch is much more stable, tame, and slower at seeking the ground when you make a mistake. The bcpp is my first heli and I have made it into ff with much patience and diligence. A buddy of mine has a Esky honneybee (fixed pitch model) the thing is a snail compared to the bcpp and is far far more forgiving when you are learning hovering and orientation.
If you decided to give it a go again I would start with something like it. Also there are some FP micro's out there that are ready to fly for half the price of the bcpp.
Well GL in your future RC adventures and remember its all about havin' fun!
Noah

choppersrule 01-21-2007 07:23 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Michael,

Haven't done the G90 yet, but it's on my list.. I purchased a T-Rex a few months ago, and it's the nuts. Great heli. Sprectrum system is the latest and the greatest, no more glitches. No more 36 inch Rx antennas, is a plus too. Only a few inches long.

Dave / Choppersrule


ORIGINAL: mykul812

I agree! I just finished the brushless as well as the headlocking G90 gyro. Next stop is the DX7 spektrum. I like the response that I get with the motor and the gyro really does the trick. The main sound I hear from the motors is the DD tail. It sounds like a bee buzzing!


Then I plan on going with the Trex since I have been told my LHS guru that it actually is much more stable!

Michael

equus 01-21-2007 07:36 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Help please ¡¡¡
I`m turning crazy ¡¡¡¡
Today tryied to start with the RADDS lesson but , i can`t center the tail as soon apply trothle the nose go to the right, if i move the right stick to the oppsite side nothing happens ..
please help i want to finish my 1rst battery right now, BTW just break my first blades a way stupid, forgot to unplug the motors before the control test and apply the trothle and i think one of the blades was broken by my hand, furtonately i`m ok ..
thanks in advance..
forgot to say the heli fall off of te table with the blades spinning, but before this had the troubles with teh tail..

noguy 01-21-2007 07:36 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Hey copperdudes,
I love hearing about others riggin stuff up with CA & stuff. I am a pretty good master of the art myself. with my trucks planes and now heli.
Give tissue(like the kind that those clothes you got for christmas were wrapped in in their box from the department store) and CA a try sometime when your desparate for a quick fix at the field.
I have fixed a few booms this way and many other things on my trucks & planes. On the booms I cut a strip of tissue about 2" wide and 6" long, then lay a bead of CA down the top of the boom and set the edge of the tissue on it. Next I wrap the paper around to the bottom and then lay a zigzag pattern of CA on the entire length of the paper and quickly wrap it around the boom and twist on tightly. The CA saturates the tissue paper and drys very light and rigid. (wear gloves).
I have found this type of paper to be a great material for riggin stuff with CA. I essentiall use this paper & CA like a quick&dirty version of fiberglass work. I have fixed about every type of RC part I can think of out in the field this way. Obviously it will only be as strong as the CA you use but it will get you through until new parts can be obtained.
Noah

noguy 01-21-2007 07:45 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Equus,

Today tryied to start with the RADDS lesson but , i can`t center the tail as soon apply trothle the nose go to the right, if i move the right stick to the oppsite side nothing happens ..
Your left stick when moved left/right will control the tail or the "yaw of the helicopter". This is the first aspect of training your thumbs with radd's.v Learning to control the yaw (with your left stick) as you give the heli throttle input with your left stick.
Radds is excellent and I highly recomend using it. However you may want to put on some training gear and scoot around on the floor and just play with the controlls toget a small feel for them before starting Radd's
If you typoed and are using the 'left' stick to turn the nose then repost a little better explanation and we will help you out. (your gain and revo mix may need a small amount of tuning)
Noah

chopperdudes 01-21-2007 07:46 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

Help please ¡¡¡
I`m turning crazy ¡¡¡¡
Today tryied to start with the RADDS lesson but , i can`t center the tail as soon apply trothle the nose go to the right, if i move the right stick to the oppsite side nothing happens ..
please help i want to finish my 1rst battery right now, BTW just break my first blades a way stupid, forgot to unplug the motors before the control test and apply the trothle and i think one of the blades was broken by my hand, furtonately i`m ok ..
thanks in advance..
rudder/tail is controlled by the left stick.

Noah, I usually tie some kite strings around the joints and then drop a drop of CA on it, dries rock hard… the whole frame has these now, will get a new frame, but will wait till this one break as I dun wanna do a complete tear down again. I also start using foam and CA for kinda those space fill or things like that (purpose similar to epoxy) (and if I dun want to CA the joints directly for easier removal later on). Basically I put some foam on the filling/joint, and drop a drop of CA on it, it’ll melt, using bbq sticks, I push the foam in place, once it melt, it’ll shrink very fast, add more foam and another drop of CA… and then you’ve got yourself a kinda paste that will dry ROCK HARD… I’ve even fixed a violin shoulder rest for my music teacher despite the fact that some of it’s broken pieces are missing. Works like a charm on tail boom mounting when I run out of 5min epoxy.

chopperdudes 01-21-2007 07:51 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Oh right, I use the string+CA thing for my skids, I’ve broken all of them, all of them at the cf rod and actual skid place… drill a hole, put in a piece of cf rod, CA it, wrap it around with string, 2 drops of CA… never broken another one after… (well actually I did). And here’s how to repair a broken then broken again skid. Remember the CA’ed string? Use a lighter, set it on fire (do this in a well ventilated place). Once it’s lit, blow it out… and the strings will come off very easily… then repeat the step above… works like a charm.

Tow Cobra 01-21-2007 08:01 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
What site do you guys find has the best selection for CP pro upgrades? And of course, do any of them have the parts at a discount?

LHS doesn't have much for stock so I'm forced to go online.

-Peter

noguy 01-21-2007 08:24 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Chopperdudes, What type of foam due you use?

chopperdudes 01-21-2007 08:25 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
ummmmmm... dun really know wat they are called... you know those that comes with the television and chairs and stuff? and heck even the ones in the original bcp box will do.

choppersrule 01-21-2007 08:38 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Tow Cobra,

I use hobbyzone.com, they have most of the upgrades and usually in stock. As far as discounts are concerned. You'll find that the cost of a particular part is the same at most websites. It's controlled by the manufacture. The deal is that some distrubutors get 40% discount and some get more or less. But the price to you is generally the same, regardless where you shop.

Here is the site: http://secure.hobbyzone.com/catalog/...e_cppro_parts/

Dave / Choppersrule


ORIGINAL: Tow Cobra

What site do you guys find has the best selection for CP pro upgrades? And of course, do any of them have the parts at a discount?

LHS doesn't have much for stock so I'm forced to go online.

-Peter

noguy 01-21-2007 08:50 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
regular old White styrofoam then... cool thanks for the tip.

noguy 01-21-2007 08:57 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Tow Cobra, I have also used Helidirect.com, Helihobby.com, tower, & you can always get IT on ebay.

noguy 01-21-2007 09:04 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Hey has anyone tried buying lipo's from sites like this?
http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=963
Prices are super cheap but I am hesitant to purchase from a non-hobby site.
Noah

orlbuzz 01-21-2007 09:22 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
That's only a 10C lipo and there is no jst connector on it.
You gets what you pay for.

orlbuzz

mykul812 01-21-2007 09:38 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
I looked at the battery site and was satisfied enough to order one. I have JST's so this doesn't matter. Curiousity killed the cat, satisfaction brought it back;)

mykul812 01-21-2007 09:42 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
BTW, the e-flite is only a 10C battery

equus 01-21-2007 09:50 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 

ORIGINAL: noguy

Equus,

Today tryied to start with the RADDS lesson but , i can`t center the tail as soon apply trothle the nose go to the right, if i move the right stick to the oppsite side nothing happens ..
Your left stick when moved left/right will control the tail or the "yaw of the helicopter". This is the first aspect of training your thumbs with radd's.v Learning to control the yaw (with your left stick) as you give the heli throttle input with your left stick.
Radds is excellent and I highly recomend using it. However you may want to put on some training gear and scoot around on the floor and just play with the controlls toget a small feel for them before starting Radd's
If you typoed and are using the 'left' stick to turn the nose then repost a little better explanation and we will help you out. (your gain and revo mix may need a small amount of tuning)
Noah
Thanks a lot noguy, honestly [:o] was not a typo, i think i still thinkin in two channels as a 7 years running cars.. as i say thanks a lot for your help...

orlbuzz 01-21-2007 09:54 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
Just trying to help, lol. You are absolutely correct, the e-flite is 10C. I tried some 10C 1320mah and the added weight showed the 10C rating. My ThunderPower 910s are 16C continuous, and run circles around the 10c heavier lipos. I found the heavier ones fine for hovering around, but after getting into FF, they didn't have the power I needed to stay out of trouble.:)

I see you are running BL m. motor as well, I hope they work out for you.

orlbuzz

noguy 01-21-2007 10:32 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
They also have these 15c at under $40 1100mah @ 97g
http://www.all-battery.com/index.asp...ROD&ProdID=977
the TP ones are 13g lighter. and a trade of for higher mAh (1320) and lower C rate (13c)
for some the weigh may be an issue but for someone only doing ff I think I would preffer the money in my pocket, that is if these are good batteries.

Mykul812 have you recieved and used the bbat yet how many charge cycles do you have through it?

noguy 01-21-2007 10:43 PM

RE: E-FLITE BLADE CP PRO
 
was anyone watchin that game??? WOW...


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