Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
12-22-2011, 03:22 PM
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RE: Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
ORIGINAL: can773
No problem with the shaft being short, the Evo was the same. Not sure how far it goes into the prop, but if you use a TT spinner backplate, and a Falcon or APC prop, then you have the same as what I have used and I have never had a problem with that configuration.
Question 2: I have never added additional carbon to the nose where the advance mounts. The Xigris is carbon, maybe 3 oz (not 5.7 for sure), probably with light glass on each side. If you use the front and rear mounts it should not be an issue as you wont have the bending forces that you would if you front mount only.
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Two slightly different questions on the topic of mounting.
The prop shaft of the Advance, where the backplate of spinner and the prop are mounted, has a length of 11.33mm. At this length, I figure the prop can not go all the way to the shaft. Just like to know at what extent a portion of the prop can be off the tip of the shaft.
A consequence of short prop shaft is that the motor needs to be mounted very close to the nose, where the fuse may not be very strong. Like to know if one layer of CF cloth is sufficient. If so, how heavy should the CF cloth be?
Thanks.
Two slightly different questions on the topic of mounting.
The prop shaft of the Advance, where the backplate of spinner and the prop are mounted, has a length of 11.33mm. At this length, I figure the prop can not go all the way to the shaft. Just like to know at what extent a portion of the prop can be off the tip of the shaft.
A consequence of short prop shaft is that the motor needs to be mounted very close to the nose, where the fuse may not be very strong. Like to know if one layer of CF cloth is sufficient. If so, how heavy should the CF cloth be?
Thanks.
Question 2: I have never added additional carbon to the nose where the advance mounts. The Xigris is carbon, maybe 3 oz (not 5.7 for sure), probably with light glass on each side. If you use the front and rear mounts it should not be an issue as you wont have the bending forces that you would if you front mount only.
Great.
I also wonder if what kind of ventilation is good/minimal for the motor. The diameter of the nose of the plane (a Visa) is 82mm and there are no cut-outs (at least now) near the front. The air flow to cool the motor probably has to come from the spinner.
05-17-2012, 04:20 PM
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RE: Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
EDIT: Below is the original post. However, thanks to JAS, I have learned that my Whatt-Meter is likely limited to 69-70 amps so the amp reading is most likely not correct.
Just add one more data point to the big pile out there:
Advance 30-10
Kontronik JIVE 120 HV
Falcon 21x14
10s Rhino 4900
6320 RPM
69 Amps
40.5 Volts
Measured with a AstroFlight Whatt Meter and GloBee Tach.
What I want to do is take a 30-10 Evo and Advance and take measurements at 3000,4000,5000, and 6000 RPM using 3 different batteries but same prop and esc . . . maybe next week
Just add one more data point to the big pile out there:
Advance 30-10
Kontronik JIVE 120 HV
Falcon 21x14
10s Rhino 4900
6320 RPM
69 Amps
40.5 Volts
Measured with a AstroFlight Whatt Meter and GloBee Tach.
What I want to do is take a 30-10 Evo and Advance and take measurements at 3000,4000,5000, and 6000 RPM using 3 different batteries but same prop and esc . . . maybe next week
05-20-2012, 03:33 AM
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RE: Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
Pletty 30-10 Advanced
YGE F3A 90 HV
Falcon 21x14 (73g v2)
This post is originally from my Pegasus thread, but I felt that the information was actually more relevant here. I'm not a Master's level flyer, and that's a shame as this plane/motor combo is so amazing, but I just thought the data might be interesting to some. Bottom line for me as I said below, this motor/esc/prop combo is super efficient!
Here's the graphs I promised last night. It's volts, amps and watts for a complete Intermediate Sequence with a full throttle run up at the beginning and a full throttle run up after landing. With all the esc/BEC changes I made I believe this is not a true full power blast for the YGE as my throttle is limited to 90% right now, but I'll try to correct that next time. Regardless this motor/prop/esc combo is definitely efficient. I had no need to use full power in flight, and the uplines were still crazy fast, BUT you can see from the graphs I'm barely hitting 2000 watts on the uplines. In true geek form I tried looking at the graphs to see if I could "read" the manuveurs and sure enough if you follow the graph logically you can see 1. full throttle run 2. Takeoff 3. 1/2 Cuban before entering the box 4. First 1/2 of the full Cuban etc. etc. all the way to the landing and the full throttle run afterwards. To be fair the wind was calm and the conditions truly ideal, but the take away for me is that this combo, although expensive, has taken e-power to a new level. C.M.'s comment to me about the YGE with the Advanced was that "it's the smoothest running motor ever!" and I have to agree. Not to mention that the batteries, motor, and esc came down every time luke warm or even stone cold and honestly guys I am not exaggerating. Anways, I'm probably gonna post a similar comment in the Advanced motor thread. I just love this plane, and the new motor is a big part of that.
I didn't get RPM at the end but the beginning spike had RPM on my GloBee of 6200.
YGE F3A 90 HV
Falcon 21x14 (73g v2)
This post is originally from my Pegasus thread, but I felt that the information was actually more relevant here. I'm not a Master's level flyer, and that's a shame as this plane/motor combo is so amazing, but I just thought the data might be interesting to some. Bottom line for me as I said below, this motor/esc/prop combo is super efficient!
Here's the graphs I promised last night. It's volts, amps and watts for a complete Intermediate Sequence with a full throttle run up at the beginning and a full throttle run up after landing. With all the esc/BEC changes I made I believe this is not a true full power blast for the YGE as my throttle is limited to 90% right now, but I'll try to correct that next time. Regardless this motor/prop/esc combo is definitely efficient. I had no need to use full power in flight, and the uplines were still crazy fast, BUT you can see from the graphs I'm barely hitting 2000 watts on the uplines. In true geek form I tried looking at the graphs to see if I could "read" the manuveurs and sure enough if you follow the graph logically you can see 1. full throttle run 2. Takeoff 3. 1/2 Cuban before entering the box 4. First 1/2 of the full Cuban etc. etc. all the way to the landing and the full throttle run afterwards. To be fair the wind was calm and the conditions truly ideal, but the take away for me is that this combo, although expensive, has taken e-power to a new level. C.M.'s comment to me about the YGE with the Advanced was that "it's the smoothest running motor ever!" and I have to agree. Not to mention that the batteries, motor, and esc came down every time luke warm or even stone cold and honestly guys I am not exaggerating. Anways, I'm probably gonna post a similar comment in the Advanced motor thread. I just love this plane, and the new motor is a big part of that.
I didn't get RPM at the end but the beginning spike had RPM on my GloBee of 6200.
05-20-2012, 12:10 PM
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RE: Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
Joe,
And why were you not at the Jackson contest?
Your motor would have gotten a real test just like mine did in the lovely Norteasterly winds.
And why were you not at the Jackson contest?
Your motor would have gotten a real test just like mine did in the lovely Norteasterly winds.
05-20-2012, 02:02 PM
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RE: Plettenberg Advance 30-10 Inrunner Test Data!
ORIGINAL: J Lachowski
Joe,
And why were you not at the Jackson contest?
Your motor would have gotten a real test just like mine did in the lovely Norteasterly winds.
Joe,
And why were you not at the Jackson contest?
Your motor would have gotten a real test just like mine did in the lovely Norteasterly winds.
10-31-2015, 07:33 AM
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If this thread is still active could someone please post the settings for a Castle Creations 80HV?
I'm interested in the frequency, brake etc........
Thank you in advance,
Nick Marson
I'm interested in the frequency, brake etc........
Thank you in advance,
Nick Marson
11-03-2015, 10:54 AM
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Are people still flying with this motor? I have had my Advance on the shelf for the past 3 years but now it will be mounted again on an Episode. Also planning to use my YGE-90 as controller again.
Any latest suggestions on optimum propellor to use?
Volkert
Any latest suggestions on optimum propellor to use?
Volkert
11-03-2015, 11:53 PM
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I'm using the Jeti spin 99 with a Throttle tech gizmo at 35-37 compensation factor.
This uses around 3000mAH for a P17 in average winds,a bit more for F17.
11-04-2015, 03:44 PM
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Use same setup on my Invitation and Biside with OS ESC's and stock Throttle-Tech settings flying USA Masters on those props. And my old Xigris uses 21X14 or 21X13.5 with a Jeti Mezon Opto 90 ESC. I used to use YGE up until recently. Now I have 4 YGE's sitting around because the new sequences dictate the need for braking which up until last season I could get away without using. One of the YGE's is going in a new Tower Hobbies Kaos 60.
11-05-2015, 02:40 AM
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thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.
You don't have enough brake with the YGE? I never used it because I was flying with folding props and did not feel the need yet back then.
Volkert
You don't have enough brake with the YGE? I never used it because I was flying with folding props and did not feel the need yet back then.
Volkert
11-05-2015, 11:41 AM
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From what I have been told the YGE brake only works properly on geared inrunners. The brake is only good enough to use for landings otherwise you get that discerning noise everytime you use it. And from experience on the original YGE 80 HV I had one that went up in smoke when I left it on during a flight.
01-14-2021, 06:55 AM
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As Nick mentioned, Mike at F3AUnlimited sells the motor, plus mounts and spare parts
https://www.f3aunlimited.com/search/...q=Plettenberg+
I think I have 3 from Mike in various 2m planes
https://www.f3aunlimited.com/search/...q=Plettenberg+
I think I have 3 from Mike in various 2m planes
01-14-2021, 08:21 PM
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You can get their prop chart plus manual on this page ... click on Advance then 30-10
https://plettenberg-motoren.net/en/p...ushless-motors
You can go with 2 or 3 blade CF props; Mike sells all the popular sizes
If you want to play with pitch, Christian Ramoser makes a really nice VarioProp for the 30-10 as well
https://plettenberg-motoren.net/en/p...ushless-motors
You can go with 2 or 3 blade CF props; Mike sells all the popular sizes
If you want to play with pitch, Christian Ramoser makes a really nice VarioProp for the 30-10 as well
01-15-2021, 04:08 AM
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You can get their prop chart plus manual on this page ... click on Advance then 30-10
https://plettenberg-motoren.net/en/p...ushless-motors
You can go with 2 or 3 blade CF props; Mike sells all the popular sizes
If you want to play with pitch, Christian Ramoser makes a really nice VarioProp for the 30-10 as well
https://plettenberg-motoren.net/en/p...ushless-motors
You can go with 2 or 3 blade CF props; Mike sells all the popular sizes
If you want to play with pitch, Christian Ramoser makes a really nice VarioProp for the 30-10 as well
that is awesome
got it now
02-28-2021, 08:57 AM
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could you help me by telling what to do here to install mine?
the kit arrived with a plywood mount. the aluminum mount is one I purchased separately.
which mount do I use? and how?
this is front end of the Proteus
the inside of the front of the fuselage.
trial fitting of the plywood plate??
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Sincerely
Cam
the kit arrived with a plywood mount. the aluminum mount is one I purchased separately.
which mount do I use? and how?
this is front end of the Proteus
the inside of the front of the fuselage.
trial fitting of the plywood plate??
any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
Sincerely
Cam
02-28-2021, 01:50 PM
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To begin with I would mount the motor to the wooden mount and temporarily install in the fuselage and check the clearance from backplate to the front of fuselage is adequate. You may need additional spacers. If you want to use the wooden mount you can then glue it in.
If you want to use the metal mount you will have to make an adapter plate. You could use the wooden mount or possibly part of it as the adapter plate or use the wooden mount as a template to make an adapter plate. Screw the aluminum motor mount to the adapter plate using the 4 outer holes.
You will also have to make some tabs which glue to the sides of the fuselage to mount the rear motor support.
If you want to use the metal mount you will have to make an adapter plate. You could use the wooden mount or possibly part of it as the adapter plate or use the wooden mount as a template to make an adapter plate. Screw the aluminum motor mount to the adapter plate using the 4 outer holes.
You will also have to make some tabs which glue to the sides of the fuselage to mount the rear motor support.
