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Old 12-04-2005, 11:26 PM
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Sounds great to me Steve, name the time and Im there. Your place is only about 45 minutes for me but its probably 4 hours for Bill and Todd. Im game to hookup wherever whenever the gang wants to meet. Im sure I will also be at the March warmup, I was working last year but I should be off this year.

It really is an awesome plane isnt it? I cant get over how neutral it is. My favorite thing about it though is the way it snaps and how easy it is to stop the snaps precisely. I liked the electric even better, Im envious of you guys who took the plunge.
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Mike, if it pulls to the canopy in the downline moving the CG forward will only make it worse.

Think about it this way, a nose heavy plane requires extra elevator to keep the nose from dropping right? So in your down lines, where gravity is not pressing on the top of the plane, that elevator is going to cause the plane to go to the canopy.

To adjust the pull to the canopy you should first get the CG where you want it. Not until the CG is set should you start messing with incidence. Reducing the main wing incidence (leading edge down) will reduce the pull to the canopy. However, keep in mind that the reduced incidence will also increase the pull to the belly in knife edge, so you need to strike a balance. Many of the FAI guys I've spoken with elect to trim for straighter knife edge flight and then if they have a down line pull to the canopy they either deal with it manually or mix a slight down elevator at low throttle. Personally I'm not crazy about the down mix with low throttle because as I slow down going across the top the plane wants to sink, however, many of the top names use this mix.

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Hmmm, it is almost arrow straight on knife edge. And the pull to the canopy in a downline is pretty slight. My original intention was to reduce incidence to get the down elevator trim out but Im beginning to think that I might just leave everything well enough alone and not worry about the down elevator, since so far I cannot see it causing any coupling issues whatsover. It flies so much better than anything I have ever had my hands on,,,, as far as I can tell from my limited abilities the ONLY shortcoming is that 1 minor problem in vertical downlines. Everything else seems near perfect to me.
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Make sure you guys post that date if you decide to meet at Jetero. I'm there! (even if I don't have a decent pattern plane to fly at the time)
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Doesnt matter, just put an engine on a shoe box and come fly. You will still kick our butts!
Old 01-01-2006, 05:02 PM
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Here is the newly finished #2 Genesis

I had two weeks vacation over the holidays. Here are some photos of the newly completed #2 Genesis. I changed the color scheme on the wings and stabs. The plane weighs 10#-9oz with the Hacker C50-14XL motor, APC 22-12e prop, Acro 90 ESC, TP5300 batteries and a 1700ma NiMh Rx battery. The first two test flights were great. It flies the same as #1. I hope to have better winds tomorrow and get in some serious practice.

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Old 03-14-2006, 11:33 PM
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hey is there a difference between an Electric Genesis and a Glow Engine Gnesis? Like is there different versions of the plane when you order it?
Old 03-15-2006, 06:40 AM
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As I recall, the basic builders kits are the same. The ARF kits are built similar. The electric kit has the longer CF landing gear and the elevator servo mounts in the fuse center.
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The important thing is the Electric ARF uses lighter wood than the Glow ARF
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That would explain why my ARF is on the heavy side, mine is a converted glow version.

I have question for you guys who are flying them though. Where are your leading and trailing edges in relation to the reference 'dimples' on the side of the fuse? For both the wing and the stab...

I set mine up exactly how you guys posted here and I have a wicked push to the wheels in knife edge. I moved the CG forward, but didn't like the stall, so I moved it back. I cranked down the incidence on the wing as far as I can, and it still pushes with left rudder, and just a touch with right... so it's finally close enough to mix out. As far as motor thrust, the spinner back plate is almost dead nuts on... so close that it couldn't be a factor, that is if it's off at all. In level flight though, it doesn't act like there is a thrust issue... cruise flight, chop the power... it flies straight ahead... bring the power up again... nothing, just straight.

I can mix it out, but I'm wondering if my wing wasn't put in the right spot... I think, and I would have to go put the plane together to be sure so don't quote me yet, that the wing might be low, and that could cause the wicked pitching... though even if it is, it couldn't be enough to affect it that much could it?

Otherwise great flying airplane... really presents well.
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I think i recieved the electric version because I put a Webra 160 on it and the tail a WAY TOO HEAVY. I moved everything forward and still won't work, the plane is too light that it flutters in the wind literally. I added weight in the front and balanced the plane perfectly, I hope this makes it better. Maybe it's because the Webra is so much lighter than most other motors. The plane literally stops in mid air during landing so this might sound weird to pattern flyers but, my plane is too light haha. I'm going to test fly it this friday, i'll try to post the results right away.
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WOW...my genesis flies perfect. It weird to me because mine is probably so much heavier than everyone elses. As I wrote in my last post, I added a big chunk of lead infront to balance the plane out. It flies perfectly straight and the Webra 160 is so strong, it has unlimited vertical capabilities. I don't recommend this to anyone though because I don't know how yours will turn out.

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