AmericanSpectre505

tIANci,

I hope you get yours soon,..before the season starts and get some time on it. I have not done the Youtube thing with posting a video yet,..should be interesting.

Bill

tIANci

Bill ... you are a darn tease, you tell us how well she flies and make us imagine it only! This is so so nasty of you! Hahahahaaa ...

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

Where is the longitudinal axis line on the fuselage (Or, at least, a zero AOA line I can reference to)? It looks like it may be from the cowl bumps to the stab holes.

-Ron

AmericanSpectre505

I know,...it's just not fair!
Oh,..the torture is starting to get to me,...make it stop,.LOL!

Anyone seen my bipe,..darn,...all gone again!

More video on Sunday! Super Brawl day!!!

Regards,
Bill

tIANci

Bill ... bipe? What bipe? Spit it out!!!

AmericanSpectre505

Limited amount of bipes came in and they went bye,..bye very fast! I want to get one ready for the NATS,..we will see. If not,...I need to get a back up plane ready anyway,......The way work is, don't think a composite is in my future at the moment, but who knows?



Bill H.
Team Fliton

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

Build photos.
Details of the pull-pull setup can be seen. Note the location of the rudder horn was raised and the original rudder cable exit hole was used for the top elevator cable exit. This works okay, but if I had it to do over, I would move the elevator cable exits forward to be directly under the repositioned rudder cable exit.
ESC: There's a hole in the firewall with a short balsa box behind it that forms a cubby for the ESC.
As stated previously, this is an electric experiment ship for me and little attempt was made to save weight. As best as I can measure right now, it's about a pound overweight. We can think of numerous places to shed ounces, but I'm not worried about that right now.

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

I got a few flights on the plane today. It's very straight right out of the box and only required a little down trim.
The best prop I had was the wood Xoar 18x12 electric. Unfortunately I shattered it....just not enough ground clearance with the stock struts.
Bolly's out of business. ES struts aren't on Central's inventory. Where can I get some longer struts???

-Ron

SanJoseDale

Ron, I just finished my Element, first flight this weekend. I found a very long set of CF gear at this place, and I am running a 21 in prop.

http://www.airborne-models.com/Index.asp

Dale

woo

Hi. Deal
show me some nice pictures of your element
are you electric set up?

alex

SanJoseDale

Alex, I'm horribly technology challenged. If I can figure out how to use my digital camera, take some reasonable pictures and figure out how to load to this site, I'll give it a shot

Yes I am electric, mounted the Plettenberg, first flight should be Saturday, if the rain stops here in Nor Cal.

Dale

.:RClunatic:.

My Feedback: (21)

If any one is interested in purchasing one I have one on the marketplace. Here is the link

http://www.rcuniverse.com/market/item.cfm?itemID=493097

Derek.Koopowitz

Alex,

See attached pic of the Bipe right before it maidened - unfortunately a very short flight because of technical problems but I'll get it in the air again when I get back in early April. I've since added the decals - see the other pics.

-Derek

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

Motor mount re-do.

jfassino

Grotto,

Must have missed it, what was the reason for the mount rebuild? Sure looks clean.

Jim

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

Jim-
I'm trying to shed some weight, especially in the nose. Unfortunately, I only lost about 1-2oz. I had hoped for more, but I guess I was unwilling to sacrifice much strength after seeing what can happen if the motor gets loose like Jerry Budd's. I'm still puzzled; the nuts and bolts I removed were 2oz., I'm sure.
The plane is quite noseheavy. Next I'll be moving one or both of the batteries back.
Lightening is a hard-fought battle.
-Ron

AmericanSpectre505

Hey Ron,

Very nice job!

Unfortunately there are not many areas you can shed weight in the airframe at this point with the electric setup. A pound over is pretty significant to overcome as you already know. The plane flies very well,..you will find the plane likes a more forward CG.

Are you planning on flying it at the Tangerine this weekend?


Regards,

Bill Holsten

Advantage Hobby & Fliton RC/Duralite Batteries/Guardian America

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

We'll see, Bill.
Right now I've got a lot of things working against me...

AmericanSpectre505

I understand,...........if I can help,...let me know![8D]



Bill Holsten

Advantage Hobby & Fliton RC/Duralite Batteries/Guardian America

SanJoseDale

I agree about this plane liking a forward CG. I have about 30 flights now. The initial flight required every click of up trim I had to keep it in the air. I incorrectly though this was a CQ issues and spend a number of hours building a new battery mount, attached to the wing. Smarter guys than me, Don and Amir convinced me my issue was wing/stab incidence. Luckily this plane has a nifty stab adjuster. After getting the stab where it belonged, I moved the battery back where I started, as in this picture, and voila! Knife edge requires almost no elevator correction. The CQ is probably a few cm forward of the recommended range.

Dale

AmericanSpectre505

Yep,......love the way the stabs adjust,..one bolt for both. There is no goofing around with working on both stabs with a incidence meter. It's still not a bad idea to check them,..I found I had to tighten the tube on one side,..no big deal! Where did you end up setting your stab at?


Best Regards,
Bill Holsten

Advantage Hobby & Fliton RC/Duralite Batteries/Guardian America/Custom Airframes of America.

SanJoseDale

Bill, my stab is now set at about .25 negative. I just kept moving it until the evelator trim ended up exactly neutral with the stab. I never measured it befor the first flight, I bet it was actually positive.

Dale

AmericanSpectre505

Dale,

Thats about right,..I used down thrust so I could zero out my stabs,..the plane actually flies better like that (my composite did anyway). QQ had a similar set up for the PL Partner using down thrust but I do not fly with everything at zero with the PL either as recommended. My Partner is slightly unique with it's own wierd issues that need to be fixed to make it fly right. Sounds like your making good strides on getting it dialed in.

I think you will really like the plane when you get it where you want it. Looking forward to seeing the new P-11/F-11 from Fliton, should be interesting and bigger.

Regards,

Bill Holsten

Advantage Hobby & Fliton RC/Duralite Batteries/Guardian America/Custom Airframes of America.

grotto2

My Feedback: (2)

I set my stab for zero initially and I've added no trim or mix for knife edge.
But my CG is an inch forward of the recommended range and I suspect that's why I'm running out of rudder power on the knife-edge loop entry. I'm tail-light with the pull-pull so I plan on moving one or both Rhinos back to the wing.

Dale-Did you find you had plenty of room under the pan back there?

-Ron

SanJoseDale

Ron, there was no issue at all with clearance under tha pan. Putting the battery centered under the gear, brought the CG to the back of the suggested range. I made the mount to allow even further back, as in this picture, but now not using it. Need to remove the weight


Dale