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Chris Moon 04-28-2009 04:10 PM

Delro E-Motion kit
 
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Delro E-Motion kit contents: The E-Motion has a fully sheeted and capped rudder with tips shaped. Stabs are sheeted and slotted for the elevator capping with leading edges and tips installed and sanded. The root rib and stab tube is installed. Wings are sheeted and leading edges and tips installed and shaped. The root rib and wing tube is installed and aileron servo cut out made. Slotting in place for the aileron capping (wood included)

Chris Moon 04-28-2009 04:14 PM

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Fuselage is similar to the Addiction and is a fiberglass / balsa sandwich with carbon fiber reinforcement. The canopy is different on the E-Motion as it is a single piece carbon fiber canopy and of course that makes it opaque. Wing and stab alignment detail is on the fuse. The unique cooling air vents are molded into the fuse.

Chris Moon 04-28-2009 04:17 PM

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Misc parts: 30mm wing tube and fuse socket, stab tube and hardware, honeycomb former sheet, wood package, fiberglass wheel pants, carbon fiber landing gear.

Chris Moon 04-28-2009 04:19 PM

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The E-Motion fuse is larger and wider than the Addiction. Here are some side by side pics. The Addiction is missing the plastic canopy in these pics:

Chris Moon 04-28-2009 04:30 PM

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Delro E-Motion

Weights in ounces:

Fuselage 20.1
CF Canopy 5.5
Rudder 1.5
L Stab 2.6
R Stab 2.7
R Wing 11.8
L Wing 11.4
Wheel pant 1.2 (pair)
CF gear 6.0 (pair) Larger than Addiction gear but Addiction gear will fit
CF wing tube /socket 3.1

Weights for honeycomb parts and wood package not included as there is excess material included on these parts

Derek.Koopowitz 04-28-2009 04:36 PM

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Chris,

Great info... any chance you can get these weights in grams as well?

Thanks.

Jeff Boyd 2 04-28-2009 10:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: Derek.Koopowitz

Chris,

Great info... any chance you can get these weights in grams as well?

Thanks.
Hi Derek . .

Oz. x 28.35 = grams

e.g. fuse = 20.1 x 28.35 = 570g (removing decimals / rounding).

Cheers, JB

Ryan Smith 04-28-2009 11:05 PM

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So when's the G-Motion going to come about? :)

Chris Moon 04-29-2009 05:08 PM

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Weights updated with grams added:

Delro E-Motion

Weights in ounces: (grams)

Fuselage 20.1 (569.8g)
CF Canopy 5.5 (155.9g)
Rudder 1.5 (42.5g)
L Stab 2.6 (73.7g)
R Stab 2.7 (76.5g)
R Wing 11.8 (334.5g)
L Wing 11.4 (323.2g)
Wheel pant 1.2 (pair) (34.0g)
CF gear 6.0 (pair) (170.1g) Larger than Addiction gear but Addiction gear will fit
CF wing tube /socket 3.1 (87.9g)

Weights for honeycomb parts and wood package not included as there is excess material included on these parts

Chris Moon 04-30-2009 09:41 AM

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My bad for not being clear about this. The E-Motion from Delro is for electric power. There is no removable chin cowl or belly pan as you would need for a glow motor installation.

Ryan Smith 04-30-2009 03:42 PM

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I was kidding, Chris.

Chris Moon 05-10-2009 09:48 AM

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The first E-Motion kit in the US is being built by another pattern flyer in Virginia. He is sending me the build info and I will post it as it comes in.

Installation of firewall.

1. Firewall was set up at factory for Plettenburg EVO.
2. After looking at cooling capability for motor I decided that two cooling openings should be added to the firewall. Instructions do not include this action.
3. Before installation into fuselage two ¾” holes were drilled in upper portion of firewall. This should allow enough air over the motor for cooling. Air passages will also need to be added in the front area of the fuselage to allow air into the motor location. Again this is not shown in the instructions or detailed photos. I did see what looked to be like a front venting in a picture included with the kit.

Chris Moon 05-10-2009 09:50 AM

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4. Mounting the firewall was a very easy task.
a. When trial fitting the firewall I found it would slide up into the fuselage without issue resting in a centered position, with correct right and down thrust. I used the Delro carbon fiber spinner designed for the E-motion. It fits perfectly. (weight 1.5oz-43g )To make certain motor was mounted correctly I used a 1/16’ spacer for proper distance and duplication of built in thrust. Gluing area in the fuselage is carbon fiber for the firewall. Make sure to hit this area with 60 or 80 grit for a good bond. The firewall itself needed no additional beveling or sanding to provide a good fit. Simply mount the motor to the firewall, slide the unit into the nose of the fuselage, make certain the spinner back plate is aligned properly and tack glue the firewall to the fuselage. This took all of 10 minutes. So far I have found the kit to be very fast building. Once the glue joint was strong enough I removed the motor from the firewall and finished the install using a mixture of 30 minute epoxy and shredded fiberglass cloth for added strength. Because the nose area is so open it was very easy to use only the epoxy necessary for a strong joint. Let this set overnight. I should point out that the factory will provide the firewall with any motor scheme needed for your particular setup.
5. The next step will be to install all front area honeycomb formers,
bracing, and landing gear mount. Again all provided honeycomb pieces fit without any need of additional sanding or cutting. Because the landing gear plate mounts to the fuselage with only honeycomb formers I laminated 1/16” light ply doublers to the lower portion of the honeycomb formers for added strength. (See picture) Additional combined weight was approximately .7 of an oz. (An added note) the carbon fiber gear mount comes from the factory predrilled with blind nuts installed. Landing gear also comes predrilled.



Chris Moon 05-10-2009 09:51 AM

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6. Installation of the wing tube and wing adjuster is the next step. The location of the wing tube must be finalized before the rudder servo mount and the carbon rod cross brace can be correctly set. I added the carbon/ply supports joining the fuselage sides and the wing tube. They are not included in the kit. I guess just a creature of habit. I have checked the tube location molded into the fuselage and so far all looks fine. I am using the provided scribe marks on the fuselage for wing and stab incidence. I’ll take a final check between wing and stab incidence and make certain wing and stab tips are of equal distance before final install. I can’t get over how fast this kit builds. Total work time to this point 6 hrs. Looks like a rainy weekend. This airplane could be ready for initial radio set up by Monday.
7. The wing tube is tacked glued at this point. Wing tube and wing is level with the fuselage. Stabs are next. The stab tubes are already set in the stab and the location on the fuselage is also marked. I have been very careful while cutting out the area in the fuselage for the location of the stab tube. I am adding plywood donuts around the stab tubes for extra support and piece of mind. They are not included in the kit and probably not needed as the fuselage itself should provide enough support. Again something I have grown accustom to.

AmericanSpectre505 05-12-2009 03:04 PM

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I had a chance to see one up close,...what a piece of craftmanship it is. OMG,..is that thing big!!!!:D Did I mention it is big and I like it!:D Should be a great E powered machine and I can wait to see it fly.

Nice work!:D

Best Regards,

Bill Holsten

Advantage Hobby and Flitoin Field Rep/Duralite Batteries/Custom Airframes of America/Dragon Fire Customs/Guardian America

mups53 05-12-2009 03:28 PM

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How big is it? Chris can you ask Larry to measure the girth at the widest point. Somewher at the peak of the canopy area.
The widest body I've seen is the Spark which is around 36"'s. My Sickle is 35"'s and the Integral is around 33"'s if I remember correctly. Either way I have to believe the 2 meter pattern design for a monoplane has to have reached it's limit as far as how wide and tall a fuse should be.
Probably the next big wave of pattern plane evoulution will be with bi planes and side force generator type of devices like the lil indoor foamies. It'll be something I just can't imagine what tha'll be. Mike

Chris Moon 05-14-2009 11:27 AM

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Additional build pics:
Sorry but I need to do 1 pic per post because RCU is displaying them funny when I upload several at once. Won't thumbnail them....???

Honeycomb fuselage former and wing adjuster assembly

Chris Moon 05-14-2009 11:31 AM

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Rudder post installation

Chris Moon 05-14-2009 11:33 AM

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Delro tail wheel assembly (not included in kits but available)

Chris Moon 05-14-2009 11:35 AM

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Additional air inlets added by the builder beneath the nose area (not required by kit instructions)

Chris Moon 05-24-2009 09:00 AM

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Pics attached:

Wing and aileron detail ready to cover
Aileron servo box detail
Canopy mount detail (2 pics)
Fuselage getting ready to paint


Chris Moon 05-24-2009 10:41 AM

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Fuselage is now complete except for rudder cable exit which will be put in after exit location is determined. The fuselage seam will require a very small amount of attention before painting so little to no additional weight gain is expected there. I’ve decided on DuPont Base Coat Clear Coat using 50% reducer with the Clear Coat. Tests have shown a much lighter final coat with an excellent gloss finish. Because this is electric I won’t have to worry about fuel problems. Once the fuselage is painted I’ll report its final weight.
The wings come ready to cover. No additional sanding or filling is needed. You will need to install the aileron servo mounts that are included with the kit. I found that the boxes when completed are much too deep and will need to be shortened. The locations for the aileron boxes in the wing are also cut. You will need to remove more foam to allow for the depth of the servo. I’m using JR 9411A servos on the wings. The servo mount proved to work well with the 9411’s. Use a hot wire to clean out the foam in the mount area, glue in the aileron servo mount and fill around the mount for a good finish. This was an evening’s work.
The stabs do not come precut for the servo mount and no servo mount is provided. You will need to determine the location in the stab, construct a servo mount in the stab and cut out the foam and balsa skin. I set the servo location perpendicular to the trailing edge of the stab. Your servo mount will be on an angle once finished. Be careful not to locate it over your stab tube. Not a good idea! I’ll not go into the weeds on this. Experienced builders will have their own ideas on how they wish to finish this area. I did find JR 3421’s fit with no issue.
All wood for the capping and beveled portion of the elevators and ailerons is included with the kit. The wood furnished in the kit I am building was not to soft but easy to work with. The elevators and ailerons are routed in the areas you will be adding the capping and beveled portions too. I found this to be a great idea. I knew exactly the length and location of cuts needed. The area routed out proved to perfect. Once the elevators and ailerons were completed they matched the back edge of the wings and stabs perfectly. This again was an evening’s work. I again will report final weight when completed.

jwalsh1 05-26-2009 10:03 PM

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Thinking about buying this kit, I think the look is really nice.  Will this design allow me to hide flop turns more effectively from the judges?  :)<div><div>
</div><div>Thanks for posting the pics.</div></div>

Chris Moon 05-27-2009 08:46 PM

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Secret spy photos of the 1st E-Motion in the U.S. sitting in the Virginia paint shop. More pics to come shortly and flight report very soon!!

joenella 05-28-2009 10:21 AM

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Nice copy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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