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Old 01-03-2010, 04:16 PM
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I bought some main blades for my falcon 40 v2. When I took off the stock and put that lil adaptor in the new blades. The new blades have a slightly larger hole, and are about 1 inch longer. When I install the blades on, there is a lil bit space cause I can move the blades a bit. I found out I can't tighten the blades. The adaptor just spins around the blade. Can I put a bit of CA where the adaptor and the blades meet? Here is the link to the blades I bought https://www.ushobbysupply.com/produc...products_id=36
Old 01-03-2010, 05:57 PM
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How much slop is in the blades?
Old 01-03-2010, 08:34 PM
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thanks but the control arms are as far out as they can go.
Old 01-03-2010, 08:37 PM
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the servos seem to respond as needed and there anti-rotation pin is correctly attached.
I'll need to do more test flights and see if I can figure it out.

thanks for you help
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Has anybody noticed any difference in response between the v1 and v2 blades?
Old 01-04-2010, 02:17 AM
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As a side note, ushobbysupply carries parts that convert a honey bee to a mixed bell hiller system (still fp). Considering that the falcons head is very similar to a hb (same swash and shaft design), wouldn't a conversion also work for the falcon?
Old 01-04-2010, 01:49 PM
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ORIGINAL: Disney1
I use JB weld to reinforce the joint. Helps some. But will still eventually break.
I am sure there as many ways to reinforce the tail holder on the frame as there are fliers.

Any other reinforcing ideas guys.
I've used pieces of an old frame, and glued it in place to help reinforce the tail area. There's a post from Bill May (I believe) from a while ago that shows a picture of it. If I can't find it, then I can take a picture of what I've done

-Dave
Old 01-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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Ordered super skids and blades. Hope I don't break anything else for awhile. My wife has started adding this up.
The super skids will definitely help! I've easily dropped my heli from 10 feet without breaking the super skids (I can't say the same for other parts).

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Old 01-04-2010, 01:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: Fretromper

Been following you guys for a while and thought I'd add my 2 cents! I was wondering if any of you have taken the weights off your flybar and experimented with the difference? I have but never noticed wiat difference it made. I use one of them for my tailkeeper! lol Thanx ~Peace~
Oh yeah, more weight on the flybar slow the response down (and makes it more stable).
Old 01-04-2010, 01:55 PM
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kind of I just ordered a 3ch heli, but I'm determined not to spend much money on it...it's the [link=http://www.amazon.com/3ch-Syma-Indoor-Outdoor-Helicopter/dp/B001FS4TGW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=toys-and-games&qid=1262392455&sr=1-1]Syma s001 heli w/ lipo[/link]. I don't fly my little falcon 40 anymore because I literally blew up the 4in1...saw tons of smoke and a little flame peeping out of it
Nice....

Anything I can do to help with the 4in1? If it's just the MOSFET (and some supporting parts), it should be repairable.

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Old 01-04-2010, 01:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: RCLT40

the servos seem to respond as needed and there anti-rotation pin is correctly attached.
I'll need to do more test flights and see if I can figure it out.

thanks for you help
Keep us informed!

Old 01-04-2010, 04:48 PM
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How much slop is in the blades?
Its a bit more slop with the new blades than with the stock blades
Old 01-04-2010, 08:15 PM
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I do not reccommend the use of CA on the rotor head.
Question, what is preventing teh grips from clamping the blades tighter?
If the pin that runs through the blades is too long can you trim it off a fraction?
Or is the hole on the new blades too large for the pin with teh sleve removed?
Old 01-05-2010, 04:01 PM
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I do not reccommend the use of CA on the rotor head.
++1. The last thing you want is things "sticking" on the rotor head.

-Dave
Old 01-05-2010, 04:54 PM
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Just a quick thought for those who are breaking a lot of parts.

I fly mostly in my front yard. I went to Home Depot and bought a large plastic tarp and a package of metal tent stakes pretty cheap. If the heli crashes on just grass there's not much cushion there. The tarp over (on top of) the grass provides a pretty soft surface that will absorb a lot of the impact. It's also a smooth surface so things will silde on it - the skids, tail boom, etc will catch in the grass, but on the tarp it can slide.
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It's also a smooth surface so things will silde on it - the skids, tail boom, etc will catch in the grass, but on the tarp it can slide.
That's a great idea! Not to mention, if you fly over the tarp, you have a better chance of finding lost parts...


Too bad I don't have any grass to try it on!

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Old 01-05-2010, 11:15 PM
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I do not reccommend the use of CA on the rotor head.
Question, what is preventing teh grips from clamping the blades tighter?
If the pin that runs through the blades is too long can you trim it off a fraction?
Or is the hole on the new blades too large for the pin with teh sleve removed?

I wasnt gonna put CA on the rotor head. I was gonna put a drop of thin CA where the blade hole and the adaptor meet, to prevent it from slipping, and to get rid of the slop, so I can tighten up the blades the proper way. THe USHobbyShop owner offered to refund my money but, if I can fix it with CA then I will.
Old 01-05-2010, 11:43 PM
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I just ordered 10 sets of those blades for my v2. I hope it works with the inserts. If not I may find a way to make one. If you glue in the inserts its probably a one time deal.
Old 01-06-2010, 05:29 AM
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ORIGINAL: fly boy2

I wasnt gonna put CA on the rotor head. I was gonna put a drop of thin CA where the blade hole and the adaptor meet, to prevent it from slipping, and to get rid of the slop, so I can tighten up the blades the proper way. THe USHobbyShop owner offered to refund my money but, if I can fix it with CA then I will.

How loose is it? Before you use ca on it look for other options.

Could you maybe slip a piece of heat shrink tubing over the adapter and shrink it on tight? Would that be enough to correct the sloppy fit?

And BTW - Michael saved my butt too. He found one of the plastic pieces for my servo connecting rod and stuck it in with my last order. I should be flying as soon as the rain stops.
Old 01-06-2010, 07:11 AM
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Forget it Larry. You're forever grounded, Everyone knows it never stop raining in Wa. Hope you had a great holiday season and a great new year.

Me and my Falcon 40. Jim
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Keep us all posted on what works with the V2 head and V1 blades.

Karlik good deal that you will be flying soon. Now no more soldering on the heli.

Yellow Crow, Good to here from you. Have a great new year.
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Ok..............Got a lipo question.  Got a 7.4 from all-battery.  It's a 2600 mAh.   This ain't too much is it?   I know It takes 6 hours to charge and i don't mind that.  Was just wondering If its gonna "blow" anything out. Its the 18650 If anyones interested.  Thanx.
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The volts is the important spec. not the mAh rating. The heli will draw what power it needs, the battery dose not push the power.
With that size mAh ration you will get very long flight times depending on how heavy the battery is compaired to teh stock one.
I use 1300mAh rated Li-Pos and get 15 to 20 minutes.
The 6 hours of charge, way long what charger are you using?
Are you familiar with Li-Po battery limitations?

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Ok..............Got a lipo question. Got a 7.4 from all-battery. It's a 2600 mAh. This ain't too much is it? I know It takes 6 hours to charge and i don't mind that. Was just wondering If its gonna ''blow'' anything out. Its the 18650 If anyones interested. Thanx.
Weight will be your major concern. 2600 is pretty big. I'm running a 3S (11.1V) 850 mAh battery on my falcon. If you can get off the ground, you'll probably have reduced flight times hefting that pig around...

If you get a better charger, you can reduce that time to 1 hour.

-Dave
Old 01-06-2010, 05:09 PM
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Weight will be your major concern. 2600 is pretty big. I'm running a 3S (11.1V) 850 mAh battery on my falcon. If you can get off the ground, you'll probably have reduced flight times hefting that pig around...

If you get a better charger, you can reduce that time to 1 hour.

-Dave
My factory green paks weigh in at about 87 grams. Here's a 3 cell 2100 that weighs about 60 grams. [link]https://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=639[/link]

Kind of guessing, but I suspect that 2600 will weigh less than the factory and work great. But Like Dave said, worse case should be it makes a lot of noise and wind but doesn't go anywhere.

ORIGINAL: Yellow Crow

Forget it Larry. You're forever grounded, Everyone knows it never stop raining in Wa. Hope you had a great holiday season and a great new year.
Good to hear from you Jim. How've you been?

There's actually a running joke up here 'bout the guy who moved here from Los Angeles. Every morning he'd wait in the rain at the bus stop for the 7:10 to take him downtown - and every night he to took 5:50 home, always in the rain. After about 3 months of this he saw a young kid at the bus stop waiting for a school bus. He started a conversation and confirmed that the lad was born and raised in the Seattle suburbs. He asked the kid "so tell me, when it does the rainy season end and the sun come out?" - to which the kid replied "How the heck should I know, I'm only eight".

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