Im thinking about perchasing the phase 3 ef-16 and would like to know if a Mega 400 ACn 16/15/2 brushless motor will work in this setup combined with a E-flite 40 amp brushless ESC. Any help would be greatly apprecated.

use the motor and speed control that comes w it. I have 1 and it flys great, but decrease the throws in half

Hi guys,
I have one to and it is fairly quick in standard setup. I left my controls with a lot of throw but then again I like a sharp stick response.
I let a member of another club have a fly and he found her a bit sharp but had no problems flying her. Mind you, he was flying in this years World Jet Masters so it is fair to say he can fly.
Great little plane. I smacked mine on a hand lunch because I missed the stick and she hit before I grabed it the second try. One load of epoxy later and she is ready to go, errr, plus one speed controller because some tape jamed the fan and I left the throttle at full power while I underwent the usual dogs abuse from the rest of the guys present. Then by the time I looked back she was smoking and hence the new ESC. As a newbe to electric I never even thought about the throttle, us nitro guys don't expect it to do much after a crash. [:-] We live and learn.

I would buy another one of these I like it that much, I have hovered it in a moderate wind, pushed full power and after 2 or 3 seconds pulled the nose up and she went vertical. This model has impressed everyone that has seen her fly, remember, the model, not me.

Hi guys, I have one of these also and love it. I have stock set up also and it flys great. I clocked mine with radar gun at 68 straight on and level. I'd buy another one if I take this one in. So far so good. Very easy launch, I think anyway. This is my favorite edf. This and the firebird. To answer your question about the motor, I can't answer that, I'd go with stock and then maybe try it later. Later........ f-86

Ok I have a question I have a Alfa mig-15 and a Kyosho Illusion. I am thinking of getting a Phase 3 f-16 but wanted to know if everyone is leaving the cheater holes open or closing them off. I am going to glass the bird with 1/2 oz fiberglass cloth and minipoly. So please let me know if ur flying with the holes open or closed and which is best. Thanks in advance......

i have mine open. I haven't tried them taped off yet. I thought about it the other day then forgot. I read a thread on here someplace that with them closed it sounds somewhat more like a turbine. It flys great with them open, I do know that.--------------f-86

I am also nearly finished with mine I have flown a friends on the stock motor and fan it had plenty of power and flew in a scale manner. I would recommend that you keep it stock and light, I will probably test fly with the cheater opened and closed just to see how much of a difference it makes...

P. Richards aka Swat Team

the mega (28mm) will not fit in the xf fan motor mount (21mm)...

Great kit, one of the nicest around for finish and price!

My current one runs an HET6904 fan and Typhoon 3W motor. Very efficent power setup, 35 amps on 4s2000 30c packs, handles superbly after spending time setting up mixing and control throws. Video is here: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783084

I agree with the others, buy the kit and use the factory power system, its a great package for the money. Cheater holes are needed if you are running the stock inlet as it chokes otherwise. Problem with the cheaters however is the pressure differential they create under the wing, causes the plane to be pulled down under power. If you trim it for WOT then soon as you cut the power it will climb like crazy.

Easiest way to fix this is mixing throttle to elevator. I found I needed around 9% up elevator with the first half of the throttle travel and 2% up with the second half of the throttle travel (mixing gives you the ability to adjust + or -% for both sides of your stick throw, the throttle is treated the same as any other stick movement with centre being neutral).

Now when I cut the throttle back the nose drops a little, still needs some fine tuning on the static trim and mixing trim, but its soooo much better than the stock ballooning!

You must reinforce the rear end, I started using 0.4 and 0.8mm ply sheet to box in the rear pylons, remove the brass sleeve and plastic sheet, then sheet the side and bottom with lite ply, refit the brass insert, all with epoxy, and the rear end will be super strong.

These look like amazing little jets! The wifey is gettin me one for christmas, I can't wait!!!
One question though, just want to make sure a Spektrum DX6 will fly this bad boy???
Seeing as it only needs a 4ch radio, I'm assuming it will, am I right? Anyone have any tips on setting it up with a DX6???
Thanks
Mark

Hi

I stuffed the DX 7 channel receiver in mine. Fun little jet. Looks good once in military colors.

One of the first things I'll do is paint it military colors...but I've never worked with foam, so what's the best way to go in regards to painting?...I don't have an airbrush either...

Testors paint works well it does not eat the foam and they have the proper numbers for accurate scale paint.
I have 7 flights on mine so far and it is fun and very easy to land.
Hand launch just give full power a little toss and the bird is away and climbing.

P. Richards aka Swat Team

can a stock ef 16 be flown at a park?

my F-16 the wing roll to the left big time ??? now left trim in midle, right trim is up elve to make wing level in fly any one have same problem?? please help thanks[]

have you balanced the jet both nose/tail AND wing/wing? Remember planes need balanced both left and run and front and back...

you mean lateral balance?? yes I did try it , maybe it need more lead

you mean lateral balance??

Hi Guy....
This F 16 is my first DF. What a GREAT plane.Leave it stock, take your time building it
and you will love it. Great advice from the guys saying REDUCE those throws, so much easier to control.
You can always increase them later. I live in snow country, and did not realize how far it will go on that
white stuff after touch down! Have fun with yours, I dont ever go to the field without mine.
Novi MI

Boy, they did make a winner when they engineered this one. It is exactly as you said. I really enjoy mine too. All stock. I had no problem from day one. The hand launch is great also. It is probably the nicest flying jet that i flew except for the firebird. if you want to have some real fun, try a firebird. Quite cheap too. No, I do not own stock in their company.

It is a blast to fly on the stock set-up.

Here is a pic of mine flies great good product...
P. Richards aka SwatTeam

do you have to add lead on the right wing ? how is your stab trim on your jet ? don't tell me your plane has a stab trim in the middle .

yes, my trim is in the middle. Maybe you are a bit nose heavy. Did you balance right where they have written in the plans??? No lead either. It came out just right. That's just mine. Maybe you used differant glue than me or something like that but mine came out good in all balance points. Did you fly it yet??? You may be surprised how good it flys, as is. I can't be sure though. ( just saying, it might fly ok) I had some planes that i built and took to the field and forgot to balance them at all and they flew ok. But i was just lucky. When I brought them in and then balanced them, they did fly better.

After I built my EF-16, I found the left wing to be slightly warped. I mean you could barely see it. I heated up the discerepant wing with a monokote heat gun, twisted the wing in the correct position and, held it there untill the wing cooled down. Now both of my 16s fly with zero trim. I found the balance to be the best at the most forward part of the opening of the cheater hole. I covered my 16s with sign vinyl. Vinyl works the best when covering foam models with compound curves. Just add a little heat to make it conform to any shape. good luck.