ultra stick lite engine choice
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so you used carbon fiber tube instead of the two dowels?
I was figuring on adding some extra support to the dowl pin hols up front for good measure
I was figuring on adding some extra support to the dowl pin hols up front for good measure
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I used carbon fiber with the dowel inside it. This is a big wing, and snap rolls put tremendous pressures on the wing and the contact points. I also discovered that the ruder helper was to much help at higher speeds, so either a very strong servo or a revamping of the helper size was necessary. I opted for both because comming out of a spin at higher rates of speed was scary, especially close to the ground. Otherwise, this is one really fun great flying machine. Oh, one other thing, I slowly peeled the the covering back and "GLASED'' the center section of the wing, just in case. HAVE FUN "FLATHEAD 4"
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one question about the gluing of everything, should I go ahead and use 30 minute epoxy, or Gorilla glue?
just curious, I've been using gorilla glue on all of my electrics and a trainer throughout the last year and have been pretty happy with it, but since the tail is just glued on this thing and I plan on throwing it around, I don't really want that to fall off...
went to the hobby shop and ended up with a pair of lighter foam tires, new tail gear (didn't like the looks of the stock piece), and a gallon of 10/10, I might just set this thing up as gas/glow and be done with it... I better get on that muffler and prop adapter!
just curious, I've been using gorilla glue on all of my electrics and a trainer throughout the last year and have been pretty happy with it, but since the tail is just glued on this thing and I plan on throwing it around, I don't really want that to fall off...
went to the hobby shop and ended up with a pair of lighter foam tires, new tail gear (didn't like the looks of the stock piece), and a gallon of 10/10, I might just set this thing up as gas/glow and be done with it... I better get on that muffler and prop adapter!
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I do not have any experience at all with "GORRILA GLUE'. I guess that is something else I need to look into. I am sure that someone out there can be more help on this matter. FLATHEAD 4.
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GORRILA GLUE is great stuff.
If for some reason you want a stronger joint, mix the GG and a little water then apply it to wetted surfaces.
It doesn't get all of the bubbles in it and boy is it ever strong.
If for some reason you want a stronger joint, mix the GG and a little water then apply it to wetted surfaces.
It doesn't get all of the bubbles in it and boy is it ever strong.
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ok, short of sticking the velcro on my reciever battery, taping the voltwatch to it's mount and routing the antenna through one of the old pushrod tubes this thing is ready to fly! ok, so some radio programming might be helpful...
it came in at 10lb 9oz dry with a 4200MAH 6v reciever pack, 7 servos (6 of them high torque), Mac 32cc engine set up on gas/glow with trimmed head. balanced to 4.5" (per recommendations on a thread on this plane here somewhere, book said 4.125") with no weight added with the battery mounted to the rear of the stock radio tray and the fuel tank (stock 21oz monster) mounted just in front of the radio tray.
it came in at 10lb 9oz dry with a 4200MAH 6v reciever pack, 7 servos (6 of them high torque), Mac 32cc engine set up on gas/glow with trimmed head. balanced to 4.5" (per recommendations on a thread on this plane here somewhere, book said 4.125") with no weight added with the battery mounted to the rear of the stock radio tray and the fuel tank (stock 21oz monster) mounted just in front of the radio tray.
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Good luck, and may your flights with this duo be many. I use a Futba 8 channel with the flaps and all, and set the dual rates rather low. I am glad I did, because with the extra power and torque, I had my hands full for the first couple flights getting everything trimmed. One thing I learned early on, these engines produce a lot of torque, so only seems natural that the plane will want to make a quick left turn if you give it full throttle right away. It takes me about 20 minutes to put 10 ounces of gas through my RYOBI, so you might want to go with a low load of fuel. I don't know how much a 32 Mac on gas/glow burns, just a thought.
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took the plane to the field today, the rudder servo sucks, keeps doing it's own thing, so I need to go with a name brand servo over the hong kong servo... wish I would have put a 6 on that servocity order instead of a 5...
started it up, ran good for a little bit, was too lean, burnt the glow plug (knew I should have bought one more of those too)
one question, those of you running full time glow, are you just using an insulated aligator clip on the terminal or are you using one of the remote glow clips? I think the aligator clip is more of the "conversion" mentality, but wanted to ask
needless to say, it didn't fly today, but the guy holding the plane says he thinks it pulls more than the other stick that's around that has a 26 on it... so I'm looking forward to see it's performance in flight!
started it up, ran good for a little bit, was too lean, burnt the glow plug (knew I should have bought one more of those too)
one question, those of you running full time glow, are you just using an insulated aligator clip on the terminal or are you using one of the remote glow clips? I think the aligator clip is more of the "conversion" mentality, but wanted to ask
needless to say, it didn't fly today, but the guy holding the plane says he thinks it pulls more than the other stick that's around that has a 26 on it... so I'm looking forward to see it's performance in flight!
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Ok I finally got this thing maidened a week ago, took it out yesterday to play some...
Pics are finally taken, didn't want to jinks anything... as you can see, Idid a couple things to the engine, it runs pretty good for what it is. Ihad a couple dead sticks due to the clunk line falling off (the hayes line expanded a little and Ineglected to wire it on... the last flight Ilanded to tune a little and it was running for me so Ijust killed it... when tuned decent it has nearly unlimited vertical, will pull out of a hover and flies good, I'm getting more used to it and am sure I'll start liking it more and more, it flies like it's on rails! been a while since I've had anything that did what Iwanted it to when Iwanted it to (was tired of the yank and wait tendencies of my trainer).
I'm more confident and fulfilled by this thing now, not it'll just be nice when the ring finishes breaking in so it'll run more consistantly.
Pics are finally taken, didn't want to jinks anything... as you can see, Idid a couple things to the engine, it runs pretty good for what it is. Ihad a couple dead sticks due to the clunk line falling off (the hayes line expanded a little and Ineglected to wire it on... the last flight Ilanded to tune a little and it was running for me so Ijust killed it... when tuned decent it has nearly unlimited vertical, will pull out of a hover and flies good, I'm getting more used to it and am sure I'll start liking it more and more, it flies like it's on rails! been a while since I've had anything that did what Iwanted it to when Iwanted it to (was tired of the yank and wait tendencies of my trainer).
I'm more confident and fulfilled by this thing now, not it'll just be nice when the ring finishes breaking in so it'll run more consistantly.
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Glad you got the beast running(0ops flying). FYI, I continued to have problems with a high end servo, then I figred out that I am fl;ying faster and with more power than intended. Solution. I remodelded the Rudder so it dosn't have the helper. Now it flies more like think it should, and I quit burning up servos. However, I got a little radical, and I think I broke the battery lead. anyway, it didn't land to good, so I am in the process pf remodelling it again. Have fun, Flathead 4</p>
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I've put about a gallon through the mac 32 now on the stick and I get compliments and people impressed on how the weedie pulls the plane
. It still has some tuning issues but I found some junk in the carb screen so that was most likely the issue, the regulator needle was sticking open too... I'm liking this gas thing, and only having $75 in an engine where most people I fly with have at least $350 in their gas engine (other than the guy with the $140 15cc engine)
. It still has some tuning issues but I found some junk in the carb screen so that was most likely the issue, the regulator needle was sticking open too... I'm liking this gas thing, and only having $75 in an engine where most people I fly with have at least $350 in their gas engine (other than the guy with the $140 15cc engine)
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I just wish I hadn't broken both of the APC props I had for this thing... they pulled much better and more efficiently than the dynathrust or whatever I have on there now (square tipped black) but when it runs good I can go straight up for a long time... I really need to sort out some programming issues so I can use crow and flaps and so forth




