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Add another one to the list of dead stock motors. Mine gave it up last night. I can see bits of burnt copper in the bottom of it, lol. While I'm waiting on the brushless, is there a cheap motor commonly available at an LHS that I can stick on there for some hover training today? I thought about a Blade CP motor cause it's a 370 but the Blade is alot lighter. They may have a cheap brushless made for a 450 since there are so many of those around. Any suggestions, guys?
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You need a motor that has a 26mm diameter body, standard hole spacing, 2.3mm shaft, and 200W or so power capacity. You'll also need to match up the Kv and pinion- getting the right pinion at a LHS might be a bigger problem than finding a motor.
The Blade motors will likely only last a very short time in the King before they burn up.
The Blade motors will likely only last a very short time in the King before they burn up.
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If it's as good as or better than the stock motor, I'll be happy. The brushless should be here soon. While I'm thinking of it, will this pinion be OK for the 3900 KV E-Sky? It's a Low-Cost RC 10T, 2.3mm.
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A friend of mine tried the axe motor is his king 2, It didn't have enough power to lift off. And that pinion looks l just like the align on I use. The king with brushless uses a 2.3mm pinion with a .5 gear pitch.
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RE: Honeybee King v2 tuner shop
ORIGINAL: crimsonrain22
Looks like it helps the tail more then I thought it would, What Gryo are you running, How does it hold in flips and rolls?
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Here's a vid of mine in back yard with the 43T pulley and KB tail blades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOTk9JS9Tts punch outs (sorta) in middle of vid camera had trouble keeping up
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Here's a vid of mine in back yard with the 43T pulley and KB tail blades
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOTk9JS9Tts punch outs (sorta) in middle of vid camera had trouble keeping up
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I'm using the 2100T as for flips and rolls i'm not theere yet so can't say
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RE: Honeybee King v2 tuner shop
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If it's as good as or better than the stock motor, I'll be happy. The brushless should be here soon. While I'm thinking of it, will this pinion be OK for the 3900 KV E-Sky? It's a Low-Cost RC 10T, 2.3mm.
If it's as good as or better than the stock motor, I'll be happy. The brushless should be here soon. While I'm thinking of it, will this pinion be OK for the 3900 KV E-Sky? It's a Low-Cost RC 10T, 2.3mm.
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Add another one to the list of dead stock motors. ...I thought about a Blade CP motor ...
Add another one to the list of dead stock motors. ...I thought about a Blade CP motor ...
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Thanks for the info on the Axe motor. I found a Cermark 480 airplane motor. It would fit with a spacer under it but not under the canopy. Hhhmmm, I just wonder. Should have enough power.
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ORIGINAL: chris1379
Thanks for the info on the Axe motor. I found a Cermark 480 airplane motor. It would fit with a spacer under it but not under the canopy. Hhhmmm, I just wonder. Should have enough power.
Thanks for the info on the Axe motor. I found a Cermark 480 airplane motor. It would fit with a spacer under it but not under the canopy. Hhhmmm, I just wonder. Should have enough power.
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RE: Honeybee King v2 tuner shop
A couple questions for ya...
1. Is it pronounced Ē-sky or Ĕs-kee?
2. From the pilot's position, what channel is the left rear servo plugged into on the rx? Right rear servo? Front servo?
3. What is the correct orientation for mounting the Esky 0704A HH gyro? Label facing.....?
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1. Is it pronounced Ē-sky or Ĕs-kee?
2. From the pilot's position, what channel is the left rear servo plugged into on the rx? Right rear servo? Front servo?
3. What is the correct orientation for mounting the Esky 0704A HH gyro? Label facing.....?
Thanks.
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A couple questions for ya...
1. Is it pronounced Ē-sky or Ĕs-kee?
2. From the pilot's position, what channel is the left rear servo plugged into on the rx? Right rear servo? Front servo?
3. What is the correct orientation for mounting the Esky 0704A HH gyro? Label facing.....?
Thanks.
A couple questions for ya...
1. Is it pronounced Ē-sky or Ĕs-kee?
2. From the pilot's position, what channel is the left rear servo plugged into on the rx? Right rear servo? Front servo?
3. What is the correct orientation for mounting the Esky 0704A HH gyro? Label facing.....?
Thanks.
0704A worked best facing rearward (I attached it to the two servos with double sided foam tape) Rudder plug on the left with the signal wire down(looking at it from the rear).
Rudder....ch 4/ right rear...ch 6 /left rear...ch 1/ front ch 2/ ESC...ch3 looking at it from rear, on a stock radio system.
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ORIGINAL: five-string
Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
I'd believe you're right BUT these are chinese we're talking about...who knows? Note on the 0704A. You don't have the option of a reverse switch on the gyro. If it acts stupid and you can't dial it in, flip it over so the rudder plug is on the right instead of left. I had a heck of a time setting up the MX-400 at first using the 0704A, but it's working pretty good now.
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ORIGINAL: crashcrash
I'd believe you're right BUT these are chinese we're talking about...who knows? Note on the 0704A. You don't have the option of a reverse switch on the gyro. If it acts stupid and you can't dial it in, flip it over so the rudder plug is on the right instead of left. I had a heck of a time setting up the MX-400 at first using the 0704A, but it's working pretty good now.
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Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
I'd believe you're right BUT these are chinese we're talking about...who knows? Note on the 0704A. You don't have the option of a reverse switch on the gyro. If it acts stupid and you can't dial it in, flip it over so the rudder plug is on the right instead of left. I had a heck of a time setting up the MX-400 at first using the 0704A, but it's working pretty good now.
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RE: Honeybee King v2 tuner shop
ORIGINAL: lohchief
Crash,have you done the 43t tail conversion yet? OBTW,I have an H model fuse on the way from darthdrk.I'll probably put it on my kingII,including the hightorque elevated tailrotor.This is gonna be phunn.
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I'd believe you're right BUT these are chinese we're talking about...who knows? Note on the 0704A. You don't have the option of a reverse switch on the gyro. If it acts stupid and you can't dial it in, flip it over so the rudder plug is on the right instead of left. I had a heck of a time setting up the MX-400 at first using the 0704A, but it's working pretty good now.
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Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
Thanks, Vic. Care to take a stab at question #1? I believe it is E-sky not Eskee.
I'd believe you're right BUT these are chinese we're talking about...who knows? Note on the 0704A. You don't have the option of a reverse switch on the gyro. If it acts stupid and you can't dial it in, flip it over so the rudder plug is on the right instead of left. I had a heck of a time setting up the MX-400 at first using the 0704A, but it's working pretty good now.
-lonchief
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Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
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Also Congrats to all you Giants Fans out there. What a great game, Im a Colts guy myself so them winning was the next best thing for me. Best game I have seen since last year, probably better but im bias.
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ORIGINAL: crimsonrain22
Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
crim.....I've got enough spare parts, gyro, servos, motor/esc to put a bare bones together....and I'm still thinking about doing that. Make no mistake...the HBKII is the BEST 300 sized heli on the market, I might have another in a week or two (LOL).
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crim.....I've got enough spare parts, gyro, servos, motor/esc to put a bare bones together....and I'm still thinking about doing that. Make no mistake...the HBKII is the BEST 300 sized heli on the market, I might have another in a week or two (LOL).
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Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
crim.....I've got enough spare parts, gyro, servos, motor/esc to put a bare bones together....and I'm still thinking about doing that. Make no mistake...the HBKII is the BEST 300 sized heli on the market, I might have another in a week or two (LOL).
-lohchief
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ORIGINAL: lohchief
My better half bought me the kingII for xmas,I would never sell it,besides I like the hell out of it.I haven't done anything with my exi 450 yet.It's all together sans all of the electrics,but it pretty much comes that way.That will be a scaler too.Then I'll get another.My next big purchase will be a new 2.4ghz radio.I will be going futaba,and not the 6exh.I am totally hooked on scale.Pod and boom just doesn't do much for me at all,as with 3d stuff.Dain bramage I guess.
-lohchief
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crim.....I've got enough spare parts, gyro, servos, motor/esc to put a bare bones together....and I'm still thinking about doing that. Make no mistake...the HBKII is the BEST 300 sized heli on the market, I might have another in a week or two (LOL).
ORIGINAL: crimsonrain22
Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
Hey crashcrash, What will we do without you being a esky owner, Actually I moved up to a Trex 450s-GF. I just cant bring myself to sell the King2 yet. Thought has crossed my mind being I could get enougth out of it to buy a Gy401 gryo but I just havent been able to do it yet.
crim.....I've got enough spare parts, gyro, servos, motor/esc to put a bare bones together....and I'm still thinking about doing that. Make no mistake...the HBKII is the BEST 300 sized heli on the market, I might have another in a week or two (LOL).
-lohchief
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Hey crash - might want to replace the tail works on that thing with the Trex slider and grips. Don't know the part # for the slider, but HS1176 tail holder works great. My first MX400 crash was due to one of the tail grip bearings seizing. It checked out fine in all the pre-flights. The Align one is much more reliable, and has much less slop. It is now serving proudly on the King.
Also, if you haven't already, get the aluminum center hub or switch to another brand 450 head unit. The stock MX400 plastic hub is very weak and can't withstand much higher headspeed than is required for hovering. I have one that I've kept for some strange reason...just like the look of it, I guess.
Also, if you haven't already, get the aluminum center hub or switch to another brand 450 head unit. The stock MX400 plastic hub is very weak and can't withstand much higher headspeed than is required for hovering. I have one that I've kept for some strange reason...just like the look of it, I guess.
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Hey crash - might want to replace the tail works on that thing with the Trex slider and grips. Don't know the part # for the slider, but HS1176 tail holder works great. My first MX400 crash was due to one of the tail grip bearings seizing. It checked out fine in all the pre-flights. The Align one is much more reliable, and has much less slop. It is now serving proudly on the King.
Also, if you haven't already, get the aluminum center hub or switch to another brand 450 head unit. The stock MX400 plastic hub is very weak and can't withstand much higher headspeed than is required for hovering. I have one that I've kept for some strange reason...just like the look of it, I guess.
Hey crash - might want to replace the tail works on that thing with the Trex slider and grips. Don't know the part # for the slider, but HS1176 tail holder works great. My first MX400 crash was due to one of the tail grip bearings seizing. It checked out fine in all the pre-flights. The Align one is much more reliable, and has much less slop. It is now serving proudly on the King.
Also, if you haven't already, get the aluminum center hub or switch to another brand 450 head unit. The stock MX400 plastic hub is very weak and can't withstand much higher headspeed than is required for hovering. I have one that I've kept for some strange reason...just like the look of it, I guess.
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Hey guys and gals? I just installed my 43 tooth belt tail conversion along with a set of Xtreme plastic blades on my HBK2. WOW! What a difference! Super stable, no vibrations, near perfect blade tracking. OK, I may have to go buy myself a head botton to stop the blades. No big deal. One thing I thought I should point out is when you remove the main shaft to replace belt gear, pay close attention to the brass spacer under it. I hadn't noticed it until it fell out. Thinking it went with the main gear I installed the belt gear and noticed it falls down onto frame and the locking pin fell out. So be sure you put the brass spacer under the belt gear first. The only down side I noticed afterwards is the tail is moved back slightly, thus it's a little tail heavy now. Moving the battery forward solved this quickly.
Also on a side note for those looking to buy parts for these helis. Xheli.com is based out of california and has most items in stock. Shipping takes days not weeks.
Also on a side note for those looking to buy parts for these helis. Xheli.com is based out of california and has most items in stock. Shipping takes days not weeks.
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RE: Honeybee King v2 tuner shop
ORIGINAL: skippy7399
Hey guys and gals? I just installed my 43 tooth belt tail conversion along with a set of Xtreme plastic blades on my HBK2. WOW! What a difference! Super stable, no vibrations, near perfect blade tracking. OK, I may have to go buy myself a head botton to stop the blades. No big deal. One thing I thought I should point out is when you remove the main shaft to replace belt gear, pay close attention to the brass spacer under it. I hadn't noticed it until it fell out. Thinking it went with the main gear I installed the belt gear and noticed it falls down onto frame and the locking pin fell out. So be sure you put the brass spacer under the belt gear first. The only down side I noticed afterwards is the tail is moved back slightly, thus it's a little tail heavy now. Moving the battery forward solved this quickly.
Also on a side note for those looking to buy parts for these helis. Xheli.com is based out of california and has most items in stock. Shipping takes days not weeks.
Hey guys and gals? I just installed my 43 tooth belt tail conversion along with a set of Xtreme plastic blades on my HBK2. WOW! What a difference! Super stable, no vibrations, near perfect blade tracking. OK, I may have to go buy myself a head botton to stop the blades. No big deal. One thing I thought I should point out is when you remove the main shaft to replace belt gear, pay close attention to the brass spacer under it. I hadn't noticed it until it fell out. Thinking it went with the main gear I installed the belt gear and noticed it falls down onto frame and the locking pin fell out. So be sure you put the brass spacer under the belt gear first. The only down side I noticed afterwards is the tail is moved back slightly, thus it's a little tail heavy now. Moving the battery forward solved this quickly.
Also on a side note for those looking to buy parts for these helis. Xheli.com is based out of california and has most items in stock. Shipping takes days not weeks.
-lohchief