I want to apologize first off, im new to this so i have many questions. I am a begginer to all this.

I was looking at several different heli and i like the Blade cpp, the honeybee king 2, or the honey bee belt cp.

So if you have any info on that, that would be great.

Ok second question is what is the difference between the honeybee king two and the honey bee belt cp (besides the price). and i found these two at rchelicoptershop.com

blade ccp is a all electric heli,meaning both main and tail blades are driven by electric motors. It's the smallest of the three your asking about. The hbk2 is the mid sized of the three,but the tail rotor is driven by iether a geared shaft or a belt. It has both main rotor and tail rotor adjustments. It's rotor span puts it into the 300 class of electrics. The belt cp is the biggest of the three. It is fully aerobatic and 3D capable right out of it's box. The cp is considered to be in the 400 to 500 class of heli's just like the Trex 450's,but at 1/4er the cost of those 500 dollar over priced choppers. You cant got wrong with any of them,but if you'll take some friendly advice. Get either the HBK2 or the BELT CP. In the long run,you'll be more happy with either of them for flying stability,and ease of up gradability.


good flying,

Art

I really aprreciate the advise. If its not to much to ask Can you check out this website or recommend a really good website for the honeybee belt cp. i think that is the one i am going to go with. www.rchelicoptershop.com


Thanks again buddy

thats a great price for the Belt CP,but i've heard others say jag hobbies has good prices to. You might look the to.



Art

I just helped a friend setup his Belt CP and was not at all impressed, build quality is ok but the rotor head is a lot more intricate than it needs to be, luckilly it looks like they run the same diameter mainshaft as a trex and will fit a trex rotor head..

personally I think they are a poor attempt at copying a Trex without being too blatent, I dont know any serious fliers who fly E-sky... i think they are aimed at the RTF market, may be cheap to buy but i doubt it will prove to be cheaper in the longrun

Hey Crabstick,first off,i'll put my Belt CP up against ANY trex u have,and i'm will to bet,it not only does every exact same thing,but does it just as good! You are correct on the main shft size being the same as the trex,but can u get a fully CNC complete from swash plate up head assembly for you trex for less than 80 bucks? I did my Belt CP! Complete carbon upgrades ( main blades,tail blade,and paddles) for less then 30 bucks!

Now,if you were paying attenting,total upgrade price is 80 + 30 = 110 dollars. Whole helicopter in ARF form ( less reciever,transmitter and battery) comes with all servo's,hh gyro,3800kv brushless outrunner motor,simetrical main blades,tail blades and boom supports installed and was only 169 dollars. Now add 169 + 110 and u get 279 dollars for a fully 3D ALL metal rotor head 400 to 500 class helicopter. Now it might just be me ( meaning i'm cheap i guess) but a 279 heli that can do the EXACT same thing as 500 heli for half the price, just seams like alot better deal.

Good Flying

Art

they may be cheaper. but in my opinion, the Trex is a Far superior machine, my friend bought his honeybee for 500$ nzd, came with a brushless outrunner with about a 20amp esc 1500mah 3s lipo, Rx and servos.

The battery lasts about 20-30 cycles, the servos are rubbish - lots of slop and fail randomly, the rx is a glitchy dog... the outrunner looks ok, but the esc doesnt look like it would cope with many stabs of the collective, also the plastic frame is very weak compared to a 450xl plastic frame

so basically what you are left with is a bare heli and an outrunner, so realistically you NEED to upgrade to the CNC head just to make it fly nice(which over in NZ you cant buy off the shelf anywhere)

a plastic Trex will fly fine with no upgrades... I have never seen anyone fly an Esky heli at a club field, heaps of - trex , hdx450 etc ...

i put esky in the same basket as walkera.. maybe a notch or two better quality..

not trying to start a flame war just stating facts

All the parts you mentioned, don't come on a T-Rex. Only LiPo & BL motor & ESC are options and they aren't considered to be the greatest either . So if you buy a T-Rex and you buy a E-Sky chassis and add the same equipment, you still come out on top with an E-Sky in the price category. As a matter of fact, its known for the Align LiPo battery to be garbage anyway because they bubble. The manual is only slightly better IMO than the ESKy manual. For what its worth, you buy a bare chassis and you install your electrics and radio equipment and go from there.

I see your point.

I will be sticking with Trex though, far better quality and availability of parts... plug when was the last time you saw pilots like the Szabo family fly a E-sky :P

lolz

I just got my Belt CP yesterday - and I have a Trex 450se w/DX7 and 401.

Here is what I can tell so far.

In basic hover, there is just simply no difference. They fly the same, they sound the same, they almost feel the same, minus the fact that the DX7 is a FAR superior radio. At times, the Belt CP even seems more stable than the Trex, which may be because it's new and hasn't been wrecked, I will give the Trex that.

I've had the Belt CP upside down, and done some basic FFF and a couple rolls, and then the second pack died and I had to go to work. Other than the cyclic being a little slower, the only advantage the Trex seems to have is slightly smoother operating, which I'm sure is the quality of the servos. At 400$ for Radio and Servo's, I would hope so.

The Belt CP collective and cyclic seem to be slightly less responsive, which I can easily attribute to the quality of the servos in the Belt CP. However, the Belt CP responds just fine, and when the Esky servos crap out, they are a fair bit cheaper than the ones my DX7 came with.

Build quality is really excellent, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't noticed any loose parts or shakes or rattles. It's plastic, but guess what. I paid 220$ for a complete 400 size heli, w/radio and all electronics, BL installed, and a LiPo.

My Trex was 500 + 150 + 400 and the carbon fiber stuff after that. I have 1000$ in my Trex before I even started to upgrade it. I'm considering buying ANOTHER 401 to put on the Belt CP.

I'm sorry, but there is just no comparison. If you want a good heli and you don't want to spend bookoo bucks to get it, Trex loses in a heartbeat.

For 200 + 300 you can have a Belt CP"se". The CF kit w/CNC head is 300$ for the Belt CP. That STILL puts me at HALF the cost of the Trex. Granted, I would never take my Belt CP to fly at the field or for any sort of competition, but thats comparing apples to oranges.

The Belt CP was OBVIOUSLY not intended to be a competitive machine, it's 200 freakin' dollars.

I would buy another Belt CP in a heartbeat if given the opportunity, and I may even get another Rx for it so I can use my DX7 with it.

It really is two completely different items you are comparing.

The Trex is obviously the high performance machine, the Belt CP is an awesome beginners entry into the 400 size class, and to someone who has never flown a 1200$ helicopter, there will be no difference in their minds.

Someone who is new has no idea what "Servo Slop" is, and probably doesn't care. They won't be doing anything hard enough to notice slop for 4-6 months if they are a FAST learner. And by then they may be able to afford a Trex anyways. And I don't know if you've seen the videos yet, but go to rchelicoptershop.com and watch the videos of the Belt CP. Again, it's not a true competitor for the Trex, but it does most of the stuff a Trex will do at 1/5th the price.

I own a T Rex 450V2 and a HBII. I like them both. The T Rex for the field and the HBII for the house. Sure the 450 is a great helicopter that's what 1000 bucks ( radio, servos,gyro,ect) gets you, My HBII was 200 to my door B/l installed. For the money I'm really impressed. I recomend it to anyone looking to try there hand at a coolective pitch helicopter.

why start with something you cant finish with? I like to Buy right the first time

you dont have to start with a SE ... An SA or a XL is fine

I Guess I just like Quality... Each to their own

I started with a CX2, I bought a Pro, then a Trex, then a bunch of others, then recently a HBKII and a Belt CP.

I like quality too.

But I don't like wrecking my 1200$ helicopter to practice new stuff when I have an all plastic one that costs 200$ to do it with =D.

Simulators are great - stick time is always better, and I'm a lot less hesitant already with the Belt CP, 200$ well spent in my book.