A few places have the xtreme carbon fiber frame out this week. I just bought one from Michael at ushobbysupply. It's a lot of money, but if you have seen this thing it looks awesome. Not sure if I can link to another forum but if you want to see pictures and a build log check this out http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877533

Finally the biggest problem with the HBK2 (weak frame) in my opinion is gone. Now if I can just keep from crashing it.

Do they have anything like that for the HoneyBee FP? Damn that's nice.

Think I would wait for the larger tail boom mod to come out so a larger tail gear can be fitted (trex tail gear). HB2 still has that tiny boom that limits size of the tail gear which in turn prevents the belt from meshing properly with it (belt cannot be bent around that tiny gear).
How does it compare with the HB2 carbon fiber frame at a few $$ less?? I would like to see how the carbon fiber from Esky mounts the tail boom and the main shaft along with the servos.
Looks awsome though and since its from Extream you can bet its been pretty well thought out.
Now can you point to the HB2 parts???

Not to kill anybodies buzz but when you start to mod it, with the money it costs you can get a better bird. I have two K2's and use E-sky servos and motors, Hobbywing ESC, AR6100 Rx's and Telebee gyros to keep'em cheap.

Rather than dump a lot of money into an E-sky my next bird will be an HDX or Align 450; they come with good frames and high quality aluminum components out of the box. The math just seems to lead me there. MHO

I do agree with you on the math but a lot of people get emotionally attached to a particular heli and spend tons on them... for instance, a $600 blade cx2 I will never understand.

I would like to see the weight savings between the carbon fiber frames and the stock frame because I have a fuselage on my king2 and would like to extend my flight times.

I am just completing my build of the XTREME CF frame for the HBK2.
I must say, I am impressed by the design. It offers a alot of advantages:
1) Adjustable servo mounts (for just about any servo - Stock Esky 8g, HS55, HS65 and others).
2) You can get to the belt idler gears from the top, no more trying to squeze them in through the bottom where the frame interferes
3) The idler gears are on an adjustable slide, allowing for more belt tension adjustment!
4) Getting at the motor screws is a breeze!
5) Just about any motor will fit now, no plastic lip to cut to fit some motors!
6) Nice gyro mount tray!
7) Much better holding of the tail boom, it even has the key that allows the boom not to rotate


I have learned that you MUST use blue locktite on all the screws! Dont ask me how I figured that one out.

I'll break out a new one and weigh it and the stock one, and post the results.

Michael

I recieved the new frame monday and first hover was tuesday about four packs one pack today little to much wind for comfort but here are some pictures and yes you have to use loctite on everything.

Nice bird boatchief with that Trex head and that frame it should fly nice.
And be quite durable.

It depends on what you want.
I Bought a Trex 450 XL because I could not afford a SE. I have now added CNC as parts broke or I found a good deal. I have now just upgraded to a SA frame. (It is NO longer an XL). Some may say for the money I have in it I could have gone to a 500 or 600
But at this time I have no interest to go bigger. Higher cost and up keep, need more room to fly and much more dangerous.

My King V2 out of box flew better than my Trex XL, I have learned that it is all about set up and less linkage is less slop as proven with my new SA frame.
The King is great for close to home small areas, and cheap to crash and less likely to kill someone. It has earned a permanent place in my hanger. So why not upgrade.