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Old 11-04-2011 | 03:45 PM
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If I had the money I'd buy them both.
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If I had the money I'd buy them both.
Hi Hobbsy, I am not sure you saw my question in an earlier post. If you flip the crankcase/cylinder to exhaust on the opposite side, would you be able to run the engine clockwise? That would be a great reason to buy the extra engine(s) and put it in a monster P-38 or similar.
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Before I answer that let me flip mine end for end and see, that would put the long cooling fins in the front but that simply wouldn't matter that much. You would also have to rotate the rear casting one way or the other to time for reverse operations.
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Before I answer that let me flip mine end for end and see, that would put the long cooling fins in the front but that simply wouldn't matter that much. You would also have to rotate the rear casting one way or the other to time for reverse operations.
Hobbsy, don't do it just for me. I was just wondering.

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If I remember correctly, they have a extra hole in the rear rotary valve disc that fits on the rod. If you use the alternate hole, then it runs in reverse.
But maybe they don't as I haven't looked at one in a long time now.
Old 11-05-2011 | 07:29 PM
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Earl, here is a shot of the intake drum, it has a heavy counterweight the is phazed with the main counterweight.
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Old 11-06-2011 | 04:32 AM
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Thanks I guess my memory has faded on that and it blended in some other rear intake engines rotary valves that had the dual feature on them.

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That's cool because it does run together as age creeps up on us, although at 69 it no longer creeps but months go by in minutes.
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Does an engine this large size require less ether and less oil to run? So I imagine the fuel would be cheaper than smaller engines?
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I mix my big tiger glow fuel at 9% oil so I'd imagine the diesel could use even less.
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Last time I mixed glow fuel it came out to $16 a gallon. Trouble is the 4500 uses 1/4 gallon per flight!
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Does an engine this large size require less ether and less oil to run? So I imagine the fuel would be cheaper than smaller engines?
Supertigre suggests using a fuel with 15% minimum oil content flow fuel for break in. After running in the engine for at least two gallons of fuel, then one can run 10% to 12% oil content glow fuel. Whether the oil is all synthetic, all castor or a blend is not critical. There are several fuel companies that make and sell special large Supertigre engine glow fuel too.

I assume that since the engine is larger, then less ether would be needed as the engine can contain the heat better with less heat loss and it has more volume to compress. Oil content in the fuel is likely similar to the glow fuel. But since it is a diesel then running a little more oil shouldn't be a problem or hurt anything. Since it has a bronze bushed connecting rod I would tend to err on the conservative side myself.



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Does an engine this large size require less ether and less oil to run? So I imagine the fuel would be cheaper than smaller engines?
Supertigre suggests using a fuel with 15% minimum oil content flow fuel for break in. After running in the engine for at least two gallons of fuel, then one can run 10% to 12% oil content glow fuel. Whether the oil is all synthetic, all castor or a blend is not critical. There are several fuel companies that make and sell special large Supertigre engine glow fuel too.

I assume that since the engine is larger, then less ether would be needed as the engine can contain the heat better with less heat loss and it has more volume to compress. Oil content in the fuel is likely similar to the glow fuel. But since it is a diesel then running a little more oil shouldn't be a problem or hurt anything. Since it has a bronze bushed connecting rod I would tend to err on the conservative side myself.



But as nitro engines, I suspect they can run with 0% nitro, whereas as diesel, you still need some ether?

1/4 gallon nitro fuel per flight can get expensive pretty fast. [&o]
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some folks use ether for starting only. The warm engine seems to be able to run without it.
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some folks use ether for starting only. The warm engine seems to be able to run without it.
If that works, it would help a lot since ether is not easily available in the US to individual consumers.
Old 11-07-2011 | 06:33 PM
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It is John Deere starting fluid, have used it, but still prefer using the Davis fuel mixes ABC and 1/2A a no hassle deal martin

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