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If that R/C Kits T-38 is a propjet, I have one of those kits in my kit pile. I'll have to dig it out and take a look. Why didn't I think of that before...thanks Bob!

Don

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Don after you open the Kit up .... do you want to send it my way? :D I mean you not going to have time to build it hahaha right?

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I remember seeing the kit in a hobby shop probably 20 years ago (I really don't know but it was a long time ago) but I never purchased it. I found one on e-bay last year and it's a keeper. Only bad thing is the canopy is missing. I'll be making a foam/glass replacement as I don't have a vacu-former. It's a big plane. 6 feet long, 44 inch wingspan.

You'll be getting kits, Pete...just be patient. I'll get around to it.....SOMEDAY! (LOLOLOLOL)
It's going to be Christmas in Canada later this year.

Don

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HAHAHAHAHHA :D

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Rich ..Q for you ... What kind and make of servo did you use in the wing?

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I used the Hitec HS-5475HB Digital for the ailerons. It is the first Digital servo I have used. It is a good servo.... however if I was going to do it again I would get either a HS-475HB(non-digital version of the same servo) or a HS-635HB. the 5475 is $35 the 475 is $18.

I will probably not buy digital servos again. The centering is great but the servo output is in didgits as the name suggests.... it tends to have a ratchety motion as opposed to a smooth motion... I can see and feel the difference.

I think the 475's and 635's are the way to go!

Rich

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Cool ... I will go with the 635's all the way around ..thanks

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You guys have done it to me with this thread - I just ordered my Flanker. Question for Rich - Does the Jett .90 fit on the DB 60s mount? Also - do you have a picture of the bottom? Thanks. G.

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Yes, I actually used the DB 60 mount.... not the 90 mount. The reason I used it is because there was a typo in the SU-27 instructions. The list of items needed in the begining indicates to use a 60 mount when it was intended to be a 90 mount! I had already mounted the engine and blind-nutted the mount by the time I realized the error.... but no harm done....both will work. I did have to widen out the 60 mount a little to get the Jett 90 to fit. The Jett 90 is a 60 sized engine!

here is a pic of the botton... not a great pic... I can take a better one if you need one!

Rich

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sorry... here is the pic!

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WOW - thanks for the quick reply. I was concerned that the 90s might not fit in the nose. I might do the same basic 585 scheme. Maybe try to make the " engines" a little rounder and silver color.

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I used the DB90 mount and had no problems with it ...had to use the full length of the support arms ( almost ) to keep the right clearance for the spinner ...the width was OK.

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Thanks guys ,i'll get a 90s mount. How about control horns and hinges? Rich - did I see where you used some WM Tri-horns and CA hinges? G.

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I used great planes CA hinges. They seem to be stronger than the rest.... have had flutter in many planes and have not seen one fail... yet!

Rich

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actually, I did find that the DB60 mount gave me a lot more overall clearance in the nose. I think the red, white and blue Flanker scheme is the best looking out of any I have seen!

Here is another paint scheme that is kinda cool!

Rich

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check out this link for pics of the real plane... scroll to the bottom!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/ubb.x/a/tp...8491006042/p/7

rich

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That's cool too. Check this out - found today at H-town for $19!

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Looking at the plans for the SU-27. I was wondering if changing the aluminium wing tube with a carbon fiber one would make that much of a difference?

Capt G. - I believe in over powering my models... But do you really think a Jett 90 is the answer for this one.

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For those contemplating an engine mount.....

Keep in mind, the Jett .90L is a "60" size engine. Same size (and weight basically) as an OS61FX and OS91FX, and utilizes the same mounting pattern.

http://www.jettengineering.com/tech/dimensional.jpg
A 2.05 B .984 C 1.72 D 3.19 E 2.63 F 1.88
G 1.78 H 1.94 I 1.86 J 5/16-24 K 1.75 L 7.0


In any case, the Flanker is best powered by one of the small-block "90" engines currently available. Alex (designer) will be the first to tell you that. OS, ST, Jett, ASP, Magnum, TT, Evo 100 .... take your pick. Its a big plane. Needs some power in the nose.

There are a great number of larger prop-jets flying with the Jett 76 and 90L engines. I think Rich's plane is a good example of why the 90L is an excellent match-up in this particular design.

Bob

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Ditto!

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Any engine will work... But you will get the most out of your plane with a JETT! The JETT will make your plane the BEST it can be! My wife just got me one of those new CERMARK F-16's for my birthday. I had seen the plane fly on a video post on RCU recently. It appeared to fly fantastic with a magnum .91.

The JETT will make it better.... BY FAR!!

Rich

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The engine comment was about Capt G's little plastic model kit picture... I totally agree that a 90 or up is def needed for this bird. I will try to word my jokes better next time...

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Ah........ better understood now :)

I think the Jett .35 will be enough for the small one [&:]

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Rich and Don

I have finished redoing the whole back end of the SU ... 1) redone the rudders with epoxy bearings, 4/40 rod across the fuse and 635 servo .. 2) reworked the control rods for the elevators ( no slop ), 635 servos on both elevators .... and to be on the safe side.... removed the extended elevator width that I had built in.

COME on weekend :D time for another test flight ...well after I have had a couple flight on the MIG just to get tuned up :)

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Test Flight? What's that? LOL. Looks good, can't wait to read the flight report.

See you in chat today if you get a chance, Pete. I finally get a whole weekend to work on the MiG's covering. I actually have th urge to monokote, can you imagine?

Later
Don