Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
01-12-2008, 11:12 PM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
Huh? Where did that come from?????
You did not include the orignal two phrases in your quote that I included in my post. Scroll up to post #128 and you'll find the offending statements. THAT'S where that came from.
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You did not include the orignal two phrases in your quote that I included in my post. Scroll up to post #128 and you'll find the offending statements. THAT'S where that came from.
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01-12-2008, 11:37 PM
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JN, I figure someone could figure it out, given the quotes. I simply followed the line of the thread. Pardon me all to...
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01-13-2008, 05:36 AM
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Because for them to post while using their Moderator identity, lends perhaps more credibility to what they have to say (or might to some). I have seen posts from some Moderators that were as erroneous as those from other posting members.
All I'm suggesting is that if a Moderator wishes to post a reply or even start a new thread, they should do so as a posting member, and not as a Moderator. Like I said originally, it's like the cop using his police cruiser for personal use. He's off duty, while posting as a regular member, and does not need to, "Be flashing his badge."
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All I'm suggesting is that if a Moderator wishes to post a reply or even start a new thread, they should do so as a posting member, and not as a Moderator. Like I said originally, it's like the cop using his police cruiser for personal use. He's off duty, while posting as a regular member, and does not need to, "Be flashing his badge."
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01-13-2008, 09:50 AM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
[quote]ORIGINAL: Bob Pastorello
ORIGINAL: Bass1
I just noticed over on the Wildhare forum that there are several posts made today by an "AL Lewis"...
I just noticed over on the Wildhare forum that there are several posts made today by an "AL Lewis"...
Al Lewis is still posting.
So is Pat Roy.
So maybe they changed their mind about dropping off RCU???(end quote)
It is puzzling to me why several people, not just Pat and Al, have decided they want to unsubscribe to RCU after a firing off a few posts in this thread. What I'm getting at, it doesn't cost a penny to stay subscribed and if a person wants to get off, why not just sign off for a day or two, or a month or whatever. Why burn a bridge if you don't have to?
01-13-2008, 10:24 AM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
ORIGINAL: Bob Pastorello
MODERATORS - RCU ADMIN - This thread is so far off topic..... why aren't you following your own rules? Nearly ALL of the content in here doesn't belong in "Gas Engines", and one could argue that a bunch of the posts have nothing to do with "Losing The Experts...", so why are ya'll letting it run?
MODERATORS - RCU ADMIN - This thread is so far off topic..... why aren't you following your own rules? Nearly ALL of the content in here doesn't belong in "Gas Engines", and one could argue that a bunch of the posts have nothing to do with "Losing The Experts...", so why are ya'll letting it run?
Now all the sudden RCU is not following it's own rules... funny, if this thread was just deleted or heavily moderated then everyone would have been crying the blues! Damnned if you do damned if you don't.
The whole thread is generally about over moderation and some people venting about it, and some others potentially leaving because of it... now it's not moderated enough. That's just funny in itself.
Come on mods.. you are not doing your jobs now.
01-13-2008, 10:36 AM
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Bob P. Why are you wanting to close this thread? This thread coud be in any forum. You have a choice not to click on it and read it? There are many many other threads in the gas engine forum. I do not think its the right time to mention Pat and al also. Let them decide what they want to say. In fact let all other,s decide for themselves. I see no reason to close it...it will just wind down on its own...with some important things to remember when posting. Capt,n
01-13-2008, 12:27 PM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
If y'all will read back, several people have asked the Moderators to let the thread run. I'd guess that's why it's still open. Also, the discussion has been civil and usually informative. After everyone has said their piece and the subject becomes old and worn, the thread will die off. RCU will continue, I suspect in much the same way as it has been. There may be some changes brought about by this discussion - we'll see. There will continue to be some who want completely open positng and some who recognize the necessity of Moderation. There will continue to be some who will take Moderation and admit their fault. There will be some who will cry foul and discrimination and threaten to leave the forum, but I suspect few actually will. No one will be completely happy. The intelligent adults among us will quietly take the bad with the good and filter out the garbage. Posting will continue and so will Moderation. So be it.
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01-13-2008, 12:31 PM
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I think RCU allows the political stuff because it is very good for their business. This hobby is now dominated by charismatic types, and they are spending lots of money. If this site maintained a purely technical standard then it would not attract enough people/advertisers to make money for its owners. Fortunately there is some useful information on RCU, its just takes longer to find it now.
01-13-2008, 02:22 PM
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ORIGINAL: pe reivers
I consider RCU to be "my forum", the forum where I meet the folks I feel comportable with. However, sometimes I get the impression, that "freedom" of speech is quite narrowed down to what RCU guidelines dictate. This is not freedom anymore, but smells like fascism.
We Europeans still know what THAT means.
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PS, if this post gets moderated, I know what to do.
I consider RCU to be "my forum", the forum where I meet the folks I feel comportable with. However, sometimes I get the impression, that "freedom" of speech is quite narrowed down to what RCU guidelines dictate. This is not freedom anymore, but smells like fascism.
We Europeans still know what THAT means.
My $0.02
PS, if this post gets moderated, I know what to do.
01-13-2008, 02:52 PM
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Going back to again read the post it will be noted that I stated I was leaving this forum, not RCU. As noted by others, there's no need to discontinue membership, and reading continues in spite of a lack of desire to participate. There have been no further posts in the engine forum since that time. As in anything, something could change to affect that decision. The fact that this thread has continued in spite of the divergences it has taken shows that there is potential for a positive change.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
In hindsight, had I the time to have contemplated the name of this thread more thoroughly, it should have been titled "Losing the Experienced, the Experts, and their Knowledge". That should help make the name a bit more P.C. and assuage those that like to unneccessarily criticize the individual rather than the content of a thread.
For those interested, I received a message from Al Lewis a short time ago indicating that he can no longer log onto RCU.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
In hindsight, had I the time to have contemplated the name of this thread more thoroughly, it should have been titled "Losing the Experienced, the Experts, and their Knowledge". That should help make the name a bit more P.C. and assuage those that like to unneccessarily criticize the individual rather than the content of a thread.
For those interested, I received a message from Al Lewis a short time ago indicating that he can no longer log onto RCU.
01-13-2008, 04:00 PM
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mrbigg: I second that 2 thumbs up! Capt,n EDIT I got to learn how to put that thumb in the right place.....No comments on the thumb thing now
01-13-2008, 05:37 PM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
ORIGINAL: Pat Roy
Going back to again read the post it will be noted that I stated I was leaving this forum, not RCU. As noted by others, there's no need to discontinue membership, and reading continues in spite of a lack of desire to participate. There have been no further posts in the engine forum since that time. As in anything, something could change to affect that decision. The fact that this thread has continued in spite of the divergences it has taken shows that there is potential for a positive change.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
Going back to again read the post it will be noted that I stated I was leaving this forum, not RCU. As noted by others, there's no need to discontinue membership, and reading continues in spite of a lack of desire to participate. There have been no further posts in the engine forum since that time. As in anything, something could change to affect that decision. The fact that this thread has continued in spite of the divergences it has taken shows that there is potential for a positive change.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
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01-13-2008, 06:38 PM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
ORIGINAL: Pat Roy
Going back to again read the post it will be noted that I stated I was leaving this forum, not RCU. As noted by others, there's no need to discontinue membership, and reading continues in spite of a lack of desire to participate. There have been no further posts in the engine forum since that time. As in anything, something could change to affect that decision. The fact that this thread has continued in spite of the divergences it has taken shows that there is potential for a positive change.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
In hindsight, had I the time to have contemplated the name of this thread more thoroughly, it should have been titled "Losing the Experienced, the Experts, and their Knowledge". That should help make the name a bit more P.C. and assuage those that like to unneccessarily criticize the individual rather than the content of a thread.
For those interested, I received a message from Al Lewis a short time ago indicating that he can no longer log onto RCU.
Going back to again read the post it will be noted that I stated I was leaving this forum, not RCU. As noted by others, there's no need to discontinue membership, and reading continues in spite of a lack of desire to participate. There have been no further posts in the engine forum since that time. As in anything, something could change to affect that decision. The fact that this thread has continued in spite of the divergences it has taken shows that there is potential for a positive change.
There have also been some serious negatives which have nearly cancelled out the positives. A statement regarding more new members than departing members, and the apparent position that nobody matters as long as membership is growing was a bit troubling.
In hindsight, had I the time to have contemplated the name of this thread more thoroughly, it should have been titled "Losing the Experienced, the Experts, and their Knowledge". That should help make the name a bit more P.C. and assuage those that like to unneccessarily criticize the individual rather than the content of a thread.
For those interested, I received a message from Al Lewis a short time ago indicating that he can no longer log onto RCU.
OK, re-phrasing the title? IMHO no need to. We all know by now what it was about.
If the engines forum gets by with just 10% buggers, that is a normal ratio. With lots of people participating, that a lot of buggers though [:@][:@][:@], but I think that we do with less. Not bad at all if you ask my opinion.
Can't have them spoil my day, or my fun in technical discussions.
01-13-2008, 09:16 PM
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RE: Losing The Experts and Their Knowledge
It is beyond unfortunate that Al would be considered such a evil nemises that he would have new posts deleted and finally blocked. It seems that RCU would have been better off letting him come back quietly and letting this whole thing blow over. Just my opinion!