ahicks

My Feedback: (2)

Many have compared the DLE 20 to a 1.20 with the ability to swing a slightly larger prop. . In any case, it's WAY beyond the suggested power for the T-Clip.

Lifer

My Feedback: (1)

Is the airframe designed to handle the pounding from an engine 3 or 4 times the recommended range?

ahicks

My Feedback: (2)

My question as well, but it would appear we have a willing test pilot? If you think about it, the same questions might have been asked regarding the First DLE20 Revolver install?

Bcolici

Thats right.We wont know till someone tries it.=)

What the hp range of the 20cc?
Sig list the upper wattage @1700 which is about 2.3 hp. Is it fair to compare this way??
I understand that vibration may be an issuse depending how well built the model is.

ahicks

My Feedback: (2)

If you did have a hp range from the manf., it's generally about useless, somebody's dream numbers or numbers obtained under conditions impossible to duplicate in actual conditions. Much better to compare commonly used prop combinations. They'll give you a solid comparison.

And yes, vibration will certainly be an issue....

Pete1burn

Installing mine on a Phoenix Models Extra 330S 60-90. Firewall looks pretty well beefed-up from the factory.

acdii

From what i remember seeing of the T-clips 70, a DLE20 wont fit in the cowl. This would be the equivalent of sticking the DLE20 in my 1/5th SIG Cub. Would be too nose heavy, and would shake the crap out of it. I joked about sticking a Magnum 91 FS on it, and they said, that would be different, let us know how it goes, in the way that, should I actually do that and it tears the wings off, well, good luck with that. I think a OS 70 would be plenty of power for this plane though, I have seen the 70 on the Great Planes Fabric cub, and it moved really good.

Bcolici

If it fits in the cowl was my other concern as well.
As far as being nose heavy it's possible to shuffle equipment around and move servos to the rear.
Only time will tell.
Nough from me here.

SkyPilot101

My thoughts are the T Clip is gonna be to lightly built for a DLE 20, as an alternative, the OS 15 cc gas job might work. I think the best thing to do is pick up a Saito .72 for her, break it in, TUNE it in, then fly the gut's out of it.

acdii

Thats what I was thinking, that or the gas .82 version.

Bcolici

Looks like a new possible candidate for the DLE 20cc.
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXEKBF&P=0

Bcolici

2x post .

stevegauth30

Looks like it would be a great combo.

alvinsmith75

A friend of mine has a DLE 20RA in this
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...arf-HAN4215#t1
According to the specs it's 2 pounds lighter than the Phoenix version. This plane flies awesome with this combo. He has added a lot of weight to it as well by adding custom wing-tip smoke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEd3lwoNbHM

acdii

Looks like it should, wonder how well it will hold up to the vibrations.

ahicks

My Feedback: (2)

Hard to believe there's 2lbs. difference in 2 almost identical planes. If that's the case though, I know where my money would go. That's WAY too much to ignore!

Bcolici

The Phoenix models is listed as a 120 and the H9 as a 60-90 and a slightly larger wingspan on the Phoenix.
I don't know if that justifies the difference?

Basil Yousif

My Feedback: (3)

A 20cc gasser 2 stroke is equal to a 1.20 four stroke glow. Something like a YS 1.20 or a 115FZ. I have flown both the DLE 20c and the YS 110FZ in the same plane and the power is about the same. I think the 1.20 2 stroke glow would be more powerfull than the DLE 20 but not by much. There's also a weight difference the DLE is heavier than a 1.20 2 stroke. The Phoenix Model Sbach might not go vertical.

acdii

Just so you know I run a DEL20 in a 4*120 and I damn near lost sight of it on an 80* climb out. Wasn't a pure vertical, but close, it became a spec in the sky. On a pure vertical it will roll up pretty high before it falls out. My only problem is I cant get it to slow down enough to land.

Basil Yousif

My Feedback: (3)

You can do the same thing with the YS 110 FZ but you can't hover close to the ground with a 120 size plane. Now a 26cc engine would get you hovering and there not much more in price.
I had a CRRC pro 26cc in a Hanger 9 90 Funtana that would dance nicely. A DLE 30 would be great in a 1.20 size 3D plane if you like DLE for $50 more.
I have a DLE 20 I am putting it in a 60 size plane

acdii

I have one of those Funtana 90 S planes and it feels so flimsy that the thought of that vibrating monster DLE 20 in that plane would rip it apart.

alvinsmith75

You don't want the Phoenix plane from Tower Hobbies........................................... .........Unless you are aerobastic! LMAO

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Bcolici

Lmao ,aerobastic fliers

Bcolici

Acdii what is your auw on that 4* 120?
Perhaps you can program some flaperons or airbrakes to slow it down.

acdii

I have Flaperons on it, when the engine idles down it lands nice, problem yesterday was I couldnt get that damn engine to idle down. When I dropped flap the plane scooted sideways and became a handful. I finally just killed the engine on final and was able to land it.