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Old 12-22-2006, 05:22 PM
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

TOFAST4U2C,

On my Giles 202 I used a Hitec FM receiver. I think my ignition system and servos are closer than 12" but once I got the EI problem solved with a Bosch Cap it was clear sailing. Even with the added extra weight like Jim says, it's a great flying plane and it lands pretty good. I have had no issues with this plane. I got mine from GSP and I see now that they have taken it out of their lineup.
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Again thanks Zip, its free shipping too these days at AK Models.
Old 12-26-2006, 10:13 PM
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Just wanted to add a post regarding this plane. I must say that this ARF was one of the easiest to put together that I have ever built. The fit and finish was perfect not one miss alined hole or ill fitting area. I did change out the pin hinges for robarts but other than that this is one nice kit. I powered mine with a MOKI 1.80 on 5% nitro with a 20 oz tank.. WOW.. It is a complete missile . The plane needed 2 beeps of down for perfect level flight. It slows down nice for landing . Over all weight came in at 12 lbs 5 oz. I'm not sure that you can get much lower maybe 5 or 6 oz if you left out the on board glow driver... Vertical is unlimited and you can even hold it in a hover for a bit. But the control areas are kind of small so it becomes a bit tricky. The aircraft flys like a pattern ship. Very crisp rolls, level inverted flight. Knife edge with very little to no coupling... Did I mention how fast this thing is... A++++
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Gotsky, did yours come with white 3/16 hinge points and horn hinge points for the controls and you changed those for Robarts?
Old 12-27-2006, 12:28 AM
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Yes. It came pre-sloted for the white pin hinges from CMP. I chose to use the Robarts in their place along with Du-Bro 90 size control horns. I would hate to lose my plane to something as simple as a broken horn and as I do not know who makes the supplied horn/hing combo in the kit I always prefer to error on the safe side. With that in mind I chose to go with a set up that has never failed me and adds a tremendous amount of adjustably. I am not saying the supplied system is flawed in any way its just my personal preference to use name brand items in critical areas. ie. control surfaces, fuel delivery, motor mounts, and wing bolts.

Here is what I went with on the ailerons and elevator. I used the pull pull set up on the rudder..

http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...161.5164.0.0.0

http://www.shopatron.com/product/pro...d=DUB883/101.0

Take Care and happy flying
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Did the Robarts fit in the pre drilled holes??
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Yes, they are the same size as the supplied hinges
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

I got a responce from Chip Hyde, They dont have any Cap-X gear instock so its TnT for me I guess.
Old 12-31-2006, 11:28 PM
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Are you talking about landing gear... If so the stock carbon gear is great ... There is no need to change it at all...
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

My landing gear split after the 5th landing and was no good. I used the Chip Hyde Capx landing gear and never had a problem after that. If Chip Hyde is out of the Capx gear, TNT does make a great landing gear for the Chip Hyde Capx that will work. It will also give you another couple of inches of prop clearance for that big gas engine. I used a Xoar 20x8 prop with my Brillelli 40GT and no way would the stock gear have given me enough ground clearance.

Good Luck! You'll love this plane.

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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

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I have an email into TnT already. I didnt see a gear listed for the Cap-X on TnTs site. I need to clear a 22x8 prop, would the Cap-X clear that ??
Old 01-01-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

TOFAST4U2C,

Using the CapX landing gear you have 12 5/8" prop clearance so you should be fine with a 22X8 prop if your flying off of concrete or hardpan. In the grass the prop tips may get a little green.
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Thanks Zip
Could I be the only person with a 46cc on the CMP Giles? Going where no man has gone before. Nah

Anywho, the servos are in the wings, which they gave me a very polished aluminum wing tube for. Fits well too, is that new? Motor box has been beefed up with triangle stock and glue. Lots of thin CA applied through out the fuse. Hitec 645 metal gear servos every where other than throttle. I am using Hanger 9 turnbuckle's for control rods. Mine did have a rear servo hatch but needed some lite ply to mount the Sullivan tail wheel. I am waiting for my SWB 3!QUOT! servo horn for the rudder. Its looks like it might be a pain to actually get it on with out allot of extra room back there. I used a 1/4 wooden dowel for the anti rotation pins in the tail and am going to glue that on today.
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

I have a ZDZ 40 on mine 20x10 XOAR prop, the clearence is fine we have a paved runway though,
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Tofast4u2c,

With the Cap-X landing gear you should be OK with a 22x8 prop on a paved runway, but on grass it may be a little close. The plane is going to be a missle, because my Brillelli 40GT has unlimited vertical and is very fast with a nXoar 20x8 prop. A 21x8 prop might be a better choes if you fly off of a grass field. Good luck and let us see some video of your plane.

Just to let you know if you get the Cap-x landing gear you will have to cut the gear in half to get it to fit right into the fuselage. I measured the landing gear and look for something that is 8" to 8 1/2" tall. If you can get the gear to be 7 1/2" wide at the base where it mounts to the fuselage you will not have to cut it in half. If it is narrower that 7 1/2" you may have to cut it in half.
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

ORIGINAL: TOFAST4U2C

Thanks Zip
Could I be the only person with a 46cc on the CMP Giles? Going where no man has gone before. Nah

Anywho, the servos are in the wings, which they gave me a very polished aluminum wing tube for. Fits well too, is that new? Motor box has been beefed up with triangle stock and glue. Lots of thin CA applied through out the fuse. Hitec 645 metal gear servos every where other than throttle. I am using Hanger 9 turnbuckle's for control rods. Mine did have a rear servo hatch but needed some lite ply to mount the Sullivan tail wheel. I am waiting for my SWB 3!QUOT! servo horn for the rudder. Its looks like it might be a pain to actually get it on with out allot of extra room back there. I used a 1/4 wooden dowel for the anti rotation pins in the tail and am going to glue that on today.
You ordered an aluminum wing tube, or your kit came with aluminum? Mine came with a carbon tube - which seemed to hold up nicely. Wonder why they changed.
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Thanks for the reminder on the landing gear Jim. I cant get the Chip Hyde gear so I am trying to find something at TnT and have sent them a email about it. They dont list a gear for the Cap-X on their site, at least I couldnt find it.

Chris, this version of the Giles came with polished aluminum wing tube not carbon fiber. It comes up 134 grams on the scale. It also came with white 3/16 hinge points and horny hinge points as well. (Thats the hinge point and control horn in one.) I will use the control horn hinge point but use Robarts in place of the others.

My upper hatch doesnt fit so good though. Anyone put a dowel up front to keep it on in flight. One of the hinges alignment was off so it took some filing to get the hinge to work. Not much material holding that little pin on the hinge to the hatch. Was their someone that added some screws somewhere for safety???
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

TOFAST4U2C,

Here is where you can order the CapX landing gear. It's the 5th item down. It doesn't say that they are out of stock.

https://host116.ipowerweb.com/~chiph...ct=Parts-CAP-X
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Thanks Zip but I tried calling them to see if they had it in stock the week prior to Xmas week but they didnt answer or return my message for call back. So I just ordered via their site and hoped for the best but 12-29 I got this email.

"We are completely out of Cap X landing gear

Sorry for the inconvience

Chip"

Not even a clue when it might be available. So I will have to go elsewhere. Im sure I wont get to fly this bird for a while yet as Im not much of a cold weather flyer. Our field is just off the water and there is almost always a cold wind from the north. Makes my eyes water and hard to see the plane.
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TOFAST4U2C,

The CapX gear is hard to beat at $20.00. If you don't need it real soon it might be worth waiting far. I may not have my Giles 202 with the Brillelli 26cc much longer. I have had emails from a couple guys that are looking into their first gasser and read that I had mentioned that I was going to sell mine. I really like flying the plane and would like to fly it some more this Spring but I need to fund another project so I just might sell it.
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Couple of questions. I am not sure If I need to add the 2 degrees of down thrust with the gasser? Do I balance this plane inverted?
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I just mounted the Brillelli 40GT ringht to the firewall and it work out just fine. The wing is in the center of the plane so I blanced mine right side up. I hope this helps
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TOFAST4U2C,

jstanton is right about adding no down thrust. I just bolted mine to the engine box also. Right side up is how I balanace mine and by the book. Can't wait to hear how you'll like your new "Rocket".

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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Thanks guys, my 46 should be at my door soon as per Scott. Unless he is spending all his time on the new 50cc. Then I will have to figure out where to put those engine rails. What 3" spinner do I use to fit the engine bolt? I have a Big bird Tru Turn that fits the 22x8 prop but not sure about the back plate fitting the prop bolt.

I havent got to far with TnT landing gear. They want me to fill out a form with all the diminsions which I dont really have. They do
have a standard 120 size gear I can ask him to make only 1 1/2 wide at the top out of 3/16 thick alum stock. Any input?
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Default RE: Brillelli 25GT on a CMP Giles-202

Tofast4u2c

This ear should work just fine on the Giles. It will give the the ground clearnce your will need for that big prop your going to be using.

I am not sure about your Tru-Turn spinner, but it should work just fine with the Brillelli 46 prop bolt.


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