Taurus 52 for Midwest SuperStinker
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I have been thinking about getting a Taurus 52 for a Midwest Super Stinker. I plan to reinforce the firewall area a bit.
Will this be too much engine for this plane. Or will the Taurus 42 be good enough for unlimited vertical?
Thanks
Will this be too much engine for this plane. Or will the Taurus 42 be good enough for unlimited vertical?
Thanks
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I was talking with Bill at Taurus yesterday. If you can get him to make you up a 2.4 I would go for it. If not then I don't know what to say. There IS NOT a better 2.4 to 3.2 engine on the market. Nobody has even equal the power, and nobody can come close to the manufactured quality. You can have cheap or you can have super quality with a long, lng life. You can't get both.
It's a tough choice to make. I'm sorry to say that most choose cheap.
It's a tough choice to make. I'm sorry to say that most choose cheap.
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If you talk with Bill at Taurus, he will tell you the 52 is only 2 ounces heavier than the forty two. That is why he is not making the 42's anymore.
That plane was designed around a Moki 180 two stroke glow engine. If you want gas, I would certainly look for a lightweight 40 cc motor.
Good Luck
That plane was designed around a Moki 180 two stroke glow engine. If you want gas, I would certainly look for a lightweight 40 cc motor.
Good Luck
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I have a TS52 and am building ( very slowly ) a MW Super Stinker. I'm not 100% sure what engine I'm going to use but it WON'T be the TS52. Too heavy and MUCH more power than needed. I also have a Brison 2.4 and that's probably what will end up in it. But I'm also considering a Saito 220 or the 2.20 gasser if it ever arrives "over here"
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Well... in my mind there is nothing wrong with a Brillelli 46 or even the 50. Both are lighter and less money.. make great power for something like this.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
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Well... in my mind there is nothing wrong with a Brillelli 46 or even the 50. Both are lighter and less money.. make great power for something like this.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
Well... in my mind there is nothing wrong with a Brillelli 46 or even the 50. Both are lighter and less money.. make great power for something like this.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
What kinds of problems has your friend had with his Taurus? I just love mine so far and it is flying while my DA-50 went to the hospital!!
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Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
Ain't that funny I've got 12 flights on my TS52 and it's been back to Taurus 3 times also. And no I won't get into the particulars of it. Been there, done that and moved on [
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Sinergy,
What kinds of problems has your friend had with his Taurus? I just love mine so far and it is flying while my DA-50 went to the hospital!!
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Well... in my mind there is nothing wrong with a Brillelli 46 or even the 50. Both are lighter and less money.. make great power for something like this.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
Well... in my mind there is nothing wrong with a Brillelli 46 or even the 50. Both are lighter and less money.. make great power for something like this.
Taurus makes a great 52 no doubt... had one. However a lot more money and un needed power for this application. Can't say the 52 is perfect though... I sold that plane to my buddy and the 52 is back in the shop for the 3rd time in the last yr with maybe 15 flights on that plane. I keep telling him that it's unusal but he's not too impressed right now to say the least. Service time is also a bit slow... sat there for 2 weeks the last 2 times it was in.
What kinds of problems has your friend had with his Taurus? I just love mine so far and it is flying while my DA-50 went to the hospital!!
Last time it sat there for 2 weeks and when my buddy called in to ask how it was doing the response he got from Bill was "Ya I am getting to it.. will look at it in the next day or 2"
Either way I cant really complain aboiut the engine... when it runs its smooth and super strong.. my buddy is just frustrated and I am stuck in the middle cuz I sold it
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Breaking up in flight has to be only the carb or the ignition. If the ignition is working and there's no shorts in the electricals I would look to cleaning out the carb. I would also be certain that the fuel was filtered, preferable with a filter prior to reaching the carb. At times a poor mixture will foul a plug causing a miss. So will a loose timing ring where the set screws loosened up in flight from an unbalanced propeller. Too many things that can go wrong having nothing to do with the engine itself.
Not saying this is the case but there are far more people that can't tune a carb than those that can. Even fewer that can actually work with simple engines and fix minor induction or spark issues. Checking and adjusting timing seems to be out of reach for most. But we'll always blame the engine and spend $30.00 to send it back rather than spend $5.00 or some time to correct something simple.
There is nothing mechanical inside a Taurus or most any other gasser that can cause the issue. It's not possible. Therefore the issue is not with the engine, but like so many others, accessories.
Not saying this is the case but there are far more people that can't tune a carb than those that can. Even fewer that can actually work with simple engines and fix minor induction or spark issues. Checking and adjusting timing seems to be out of reach for most. But we'll always blame the engine and spend $30.00 to send it back rather than spend $5.00 or some time to correct something simple.
There is nothing mechanical inside a Taurus or most any other gasser that can cause the issue. It's not possible. Therefore the issue is not with the engine, but like so many others, accessories.
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Well I will guarantee it's tuned correctly because I am the only one who touches the needles.
I also took apart the carb and cleaned it as well as tried brand new batteries to make sure that was not the issue. The problem is it was doing the exact same thing when it went in and sat for 2 weeks... it was a broken ground somewhere ( I dont know I didn't speak with Bill personally) and then it last 4 or 5 mins of doing circles and acted up again doing the similar thing. We didn't have a spare plug handy to try. I am pretty sure it's electrical and I don't really take ignitions apart and repair them... not my field
I can't remember why it went in the first time but it was a different problem all together.
I have the ability and knowledge to go over the timing but quite frankly I have enough on my plate then to be working on other people's engines that just came back from being "repaired" I am not knocking Taurus.. just stating recent experience with them.
I also took apart the carb and cleaned it as well as tried brand new batteries to make sure that was not the issue. The problem is it was doing the exact same thing when it went in and sat for 2 weeks... it was a broken ground somewhere ( I dont know I didn't speak with Bill personally) and then it last 4 or 5 mins of doing circles and acted up again doing the similar thing. We didn't have a spare plug handy to try. I am pretty sure it's electrical and I don't really take ignitions apart and repair them... not my field

I can't remember why it went in the first time but it was a different problem all together.
I have the ability and knowledge to go over the timing but quite frankly I have enough on my plate then to be working on other people's engines that just came back from being "repaired" I am not knocking Taurus.. just stating recent experience with them.
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I'm only entering into this discussion in order to help a fellow modeler
but one of the problems I had with my TS52 was exactly as you stated, breaking down, backfiring, etc. After a lot of "discussions" with Taurus I sent it back and they replaced the ignition - end of problem - at least that one.
but one of the problems I had with my TS52 was exactly as you stated, breaking down, backfiring, etc. After a lot of "discussions" with Taurus I sent it back and they replaced the ignition - end of problem - at least that one.




