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Old 03-28-2008 | 10:40 AM
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I am building a Rascal 110, (my first model after being out of the hobby for 17 years), and would like to put a gasser on it. I have been considering a Zenoah G-26EI however since I have zero experience with gassers, I am open to whatever suggestions/opinions are out there. I am in the learning mode. I am also leaning towards a DX-7 radio since I don't see myself every flying anything that will need more than 7 channels and want to get into the SS relm.

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Old 03-28-2008 | 10:48 AM
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You don't need the most powerful 26 on there with that high wing... but I would want a quality one.

2 choices that come to mind.

G-26
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The 110 Rascal has been extensively flown with 25 and 26cc engines. Pick a good one and run with it. It flys extremely well at just about any weight with an engine in this size class.
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I have been doing some reading on the Brillelli 26SSR. Is Brillelli kind of a "nich" manafacture as compared to Zenoah or is Zenoah's marketing just better? I see alot of Zenoah but not Brillelli and it appears that the Brillelli offering is less $$$$$$.
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Brillelli is a small shop... doesn't do a lot of marketing and mainly gets all their business from word of mouth. Excellent products and service / support.
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Jake I see you are on Team Brillelli. As I said I am new to all this fancy stuff and am very fortunate to have a clean slate to learn. If I were to make the decision to go with Brillelli would you mind if I pick your brain along the way?
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Zenoah has been around in the aircraft engine departmet for about the last 20 years while Brillelli has been going at it now for about the last year and a half. You won't get hurt either way. However, you could buy a less expensive 26cc engine than either of them sell and get hurt very badly. Currently Zenoah, Brillelli, and 3w are three top of the line engines in the size class so pick one and enjoy. The 3w is more expensive.
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I don't mind helping anyone regardless of which brand they use... always up for a pm and if I don't know the answer I am sure I can direct you to the right person.

Like I said in my original post you don't need top of the line power by any means... Just Zenoah and Brillelli are some of the top motors in the class. They just happen to have quality and a lot of power in one package

One small correction to Pat... I have been buying Brillelli engines for 3 yrs only been on the "team" Since Oct. I think the 60 has only been out 1.5 yrs so I think thats really when Brillelli started to get noticed.
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Thanks for the correction on the time frame. Time flies when you get a little older and some things seem like they were only yesterday...
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ahh come on Pat... it only flies when you are having too much fun!
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My good buddy has the Rascal 110 with a Saito 150 on it. Lots of power. He has trouble flying - can't land at all - so I end up flying all his stuff. With the Saito on it, it has plenty of power - but I agree - it would be better with a gasser on it. My choice would be either the Brillelli 26 a G26 from Ralph Cunningham at RCIGNITIONS. You can't go wrong with either - both offer top notch service.

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king_arthur1953,

I have had two of the Brillelli 26cc engines and the 40cc engine. Very nice and powerful engines and Scott at Brillelli will bend over backwards to help you in any way he can. I also had a Zenoah G62 that I sent to Ralph Cunningham at RCIGNITIONS and had him convert it to IE and cut some of the weight off. Ralph is the man to go to if you want a gasser worked on or buy one that he is selling. I don't think you can go wrong with either one.
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The G26 carb has a very awkward positioning of the throttle lever and it makes installing a throttle cable challenging. You need to get the carb mount changed or modified by Ralph or it could be frustrating for a first timer.Don't know why the design is so bad.
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You could also simply install a 90 degree bellcrank in the open threaded hole on the side of the engine case above the carb. That takes all the challenge out of the throttle linkage....
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BCMA / SPE 26cc gasser. Had the BCMA engine in my Rascal 110. I have since sold the airframe. Still have the engine and it's looking for a new home... Excellent engine and great service from Adam. [link]http://bcmaengines.com/[/link]
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Just completed my Rascal 110 with an ASP fs180.It was the only glow motor with a nice muffler and straightforward install. You have to recess the firewall for the saito150 and 180.
Getting the CG at the recommended spot was a little tricky as it tended to be a wee bit tail heavy.I used a 9155 for the elevator and beefed up the linkage, didn't like the supplied stuff.I reckon an engine about 1200gm and above would make balancing much easier. A gas engine would be good although the carb sticking out would look a bit out of place in a pretty plane.
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I flew my Rascal with a G20 and had plenty of power, that plane doesn't require much. About throttle linkage, if you don't want to get a rotator intake manifold for your G23/26 this is an easy set up using a bellcrank.
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Old 04-30-2008 | 02:46 PM
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Mine has a FPE 1.3 (21cc) and it does fine with 16/8 or 17/6 APC. I got mine NIB here on RCU for $250 new from a dealer they are a bit pricey, but it is the recommended engine from Sig. It has a super small pitts style muffler and fits completely under the cowl except for the carb and with the EI it hand starts very easy.

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No way you can go wrong with a G26 and I have yet to read a bad word about Brillelli.

You are a winner either way.
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Well I have now finished my 1st gallon with the G26EI. I started with a 16-8 APC prop but have switched to a 18-6W. The performance is much better with the 18-6W. The motor is now starting with ony about 3 flips. It goes like this. Battery off. Cover carb and flip 4 or 5 times. Battery on. 1st flip ....sputter, 2nd flip nothing 3rd flip she starts. I am not even using the choke at this point. The only issue I am having with the Zenoah is the idle speed is really high when I lean the idle screw out. I think the butterfly may not be flat and air is leaking by. It is fully closed mechanically. So I have to fatten up the low speed screw to slow the idle down so the plane won't "roll out" when I release it. The top end is simply awsome. There is no lack of power. I am mostly satisified at this point. I think later in the flying season I will send the engine to Ralph Cunningham to tweak it out.
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king_arthur1953,

Sounds like your having a good time with this plane. I have a G26/EI coming from Ralph C. that is going on a Sig Rascal 110. Could you tell me what the dimension from the firewall to the end of the prop hub. In the past I always ran a 17X6 prop on my 26cc engines and look to run it again on the one from Ralph.
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I mounted mine using the these 20mm standoff. This gave ma about 1/4 inch gap from the end of the cowl to the back side of the spinner backing plate. I will post dimensions tonight when I get home. My flight style is slow but I like plenty of thrust. That is what led me to the 18-6W. I also feel that it gives the additional drag the 110 can use when landing........ helps counteract the floating.

These are the standoff I used. http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...ProdID=EVO3310

Also I did a couple of mods that I think are very worth while.
1. Added a hatch to the bottom of the fusalage to access the area where the gas tank is located. This made it much easier to install and pull the tank and also to install the ingnition unit.
2. Installed an alunimum bar across the landing gear about 2 inches below the mount plate. The made the gear much more rigid. Without it the gear distorted easily.
3. Reinforced the floor of the fusalage from the former forward of the landing gear mount to the location where the wing struts bolt in. I also built a frame around the landing gear mount block using 3/4 inch balsa triange stock and plywood. The point of this was to spread the load from the stiffer landing gear.

I also located the battery for the ignition in the area next to the servos to keep it away from confined areas for better cooling during field charging. Note: my first battery blew up destroying the fuel tank compartment when it got hot enough to melt the insulation of the leads that were laying against it shorting the battery. Yes it was loud and there was a small fire. The rebuild resulted in the hatch that has proved to be a great asset.
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Zippi I measure 160mm from the firewall to the prop hub that the spinner backplate would sit against. That is with 20mm spacers between the engine mount and the firewall. I am going to get some more pics to better explain my build.
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king_arthur1953,

Thanks for the info. What does the manual say the distance from the firewall to the prop hub is? On Towers site the specs on the Rascal say it has an aluminum wing joiner, not a wing tube. Is this a one piece wing or do the wing halfs slide off??? I would think it is on a wing tube but you never know.
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Zippi, Check this out! http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/Erics-Rascal-mov Enjoy....Capt,n
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ORIGINAL: Tired Old Man

The 110 Rascal has been extensively flown with 25 and 26cc engines. Pick a good one and run with it. It flys extremely well at just about any weight with an engine in this size class.
Hellow Tired Good Old Man.....Take a look http://www.rcuvideos.com/video/Erics-Rascal-mov Capt,n


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