is there a tiny 3oz ignition with Tx controlled advance and mounting tabs
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here it is guys, it's a tiny size 3oz ignition with advance timing, it can be adjusted on the fly at the Tx, it's made for/by a reputable engine company and it has mounting tabs,, sorry I don't know the price, but I would bet it's pricey
scroll down,,
http://www.webra-austria.at/neu2009/...09.php?lang=EN
Jim
scroll down,,
http://www.webra-austria.at/neu2009/...09.php?lang=EN
Jim
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Here's the specs. There is a Webra dealer in Canada. Maybe someone could check the price there.
WEBRA SPARK II UNIVERSAL ignition system
order no.:
4313
order no.:
4312
The Webra SPARK II is an electronic ignition system consisting of a micro-processor controlled electronic circuit and a thyristor high-voltage ignition system with voltage converter and high-tension ignition coil. An electronic control circuit automates the timing of the ignition spark.
The SPARK II ignition system is designed for use in single-cylinder two-stroke model motors. The entire ignition box is fitted inside a light alloy housing, protecting all the electronic components and suppressing transmitted RF effects. The space-saving shape of the housing makes it easy to install neatly.
The SPARK II ignition system helps the motor to idle reliably at a lower speed, and at the same time the precisely timed ignition spark improves the gas exchange and torque. A rotary potentiometer can be used to optimise the ignition advance. The SPARK II ignition system also features a receiver lead for connection to a vacant channel, enabling the pilot to optimise the advance timing from the RC system transmitter - even while the model is flying.
The SPARK II - UNIVERSAL ignition system can be fitted to motors designed for methanol as well as petrol power plants.
Motors which were originally designed for methanol operation (glowplug types) should not be operated on petrol, as their bearings and compression ratio are not suitable for this fuel. However, using a spark ignition system in a methanol-burner guarantees precise ignition with controlled ignition advance. This increases motor torque, and helps to enhance overall performance (reduced nitromethane requirement).
The ignition pulse is provided by a magnet which is installed in the propeller driver or cooling fan. The ignition pulse is picked up by a Hall sensor.
The system is designed for use with a power supply consisting of standard commercially available battery cells such as LiPo, NiCd, NiMH, etc; we recommend two LiPo cells. An electronic ON / OFF switch is also available as an accessory: Powerswitch Z-Nicad, Article No. 20436, for NiCd batteries, and Powerswitch Z-LiPo, Order No. 20437, for LiPo batteries.
input voltage 3,6 - 8V
output voltage approx. 24 kV
idle current drain ca. 10mA
current drain approx. 250mA at 5V and 10.000 U/min
max. rotation speed ca. 20.000 U/min
max. advance ca. 30°
dimmension length 33mm, diameter 40 - 44mm
weight 100g
WEBRA SPARK II UNIVERSAL ignition system
order no.:
4313
order no.:
4312
The Webra SPARK II is an electronic ignition system consisting of a micro-processor controlled electronic circuit and a thyristor high-voltage ignition system with voltage converter and high-tension ignition coil. An electronic control circuit automates the timing of the ignition spark.
The SPARK II ignition system is designed for use in single-cylinder two-stroke model motors. The entire ignition box is fitted inside a light alloy housing, protecting all the electronic components and suppressing transmitted RF effects. The space-saving shape of the housing makes it easy to install neatly.
The SPARK II ignition system helps the motor to idle reliably at a lower speed, and at the same time the precisely timed ignition spark improves the gas exchange and torque. A rotary potentiometer can be used to optimise the ignition advance. The SPARK II ignition system also features a receiver lead for connection to a vacant channel, enabling the pilot to optimise the advance timing from the RC system transmitter - even while the model is flying.
The SPARK II - UNIVERSAL ignition system can be fitted to motors designed for methanol as well as petrol power plants.
Motors which were originally designed for methanol operation (glowplug types) should not be operated on petrol, as their bearings and compression ratio are not suitable for this fuel. However, using a spark ignition system in a methanol-burner guarantees precise ignition with controlled ignition advance. This increases motor torque, and helps to enhance overall performance (reduced nitromethane requirement).
The ignition pulse is provided by a magnet which is installed in the propeller driver or cooling fan. The ignition pulse is picked up by a Hall sensor.
The system is designed for use with a power supply consisting of standard commercially available battery cells such as LiPo, NiCd, NiMH, etc; we recommend two LiPo cells. An electronic ON / OFF switch is also available as an accessory: Powerswitch Z-Nicad, Article No. 20436, for NiCd batteries, and Powerswitch Z-LiPo, Order No. 20437, for LiPo batteries.
input voltage 3,6 - 8V
output voltage approx. 24 kV
idle current drain ca. 10mA
current drain approx. 250mA at 5V and 10.000 U/min
max. rotation speed ca. 20.000 U/min
max. advance ca. 30°
dimmension length 33mm, diameter 40 - 44mm
weight 100g
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my reply from Webra,,,
Thank you for your inquiry.
There are 2 Universal system:
1.) for the spark plug with M10 thread.......order no. 24110....€ 202,00
2.) for the spark plug with 1/4" thread.......order no. 24120....€ 202,00
Both systems are without spark plug and battery.
The second one is new and will come on the market in the end of March.
Thank you for your inquiry.
There are 2 Universal system:
1.) for the spark plug with M10 thread.......order no. 24110....€ 202,00
2.) for the spark plug with 1/4" thread.......order no. 24120....€ 202,00
Both systems are without spark plug and battery.
The second one is new and will come on the market in the end of March.
#5
Nothing is really new
in 1998- for example - I used converted ST1.4 engines -on alky and 5% nitro - to ignition
the setup was made by Trans-Sil- (Al Diem) my part was specifying that the coil be seperate (yes) from the elctronics and mounted 3" from the spark plug. (less weight and less potential Rf noise. )
a std auto advance board was used
total weight - 3-4 ozs PLUS the battery.
using a pair of 1100ma A123 cells -today the total weight would be 6-7 ozs.
as far as tx control of the spark - novel but hardly worthwhile except for diddlin around. The parameters of the stock advance board were plenty good(.alky has a greater tolerance for advance settings) .
However a wider spark gap did proove to produce more power -as long as the ignition did not "break down"
Power and smooth running with this setup exceeded glo plug setups as the timing remained where intended irrespective of heat .
This is whre glow setups go bad - as heat ADVANCES - so does the point of combustion!
A cheap Chinese ignition plus a magnet and a 10mm plug will make almost any glo setup into a alky/ ignition engine. the tiny spark plug interchangable with glow plugs also work but are a pain in the butt to use on a really high performance setup.
just physically, too small .
This entire conversion setup should cost anyone , well under $100 US. in parts.
I bet the guys at C&H can splain it all to you. and do the conversion for you,if you prefer
in 1998- for example - I used converted ST1.4 engines -on alky and 5% nitro - to ignition
the setup was made by Trans-Sil- (Al Diem) my part was specifying that the coil be seperate (yes) from the elctronics and mounted 3" from the spark plug. (less weight and less potential Rf noise. )
a std auto advance board was used
total weight - 3-4 ozs PLUS the battery.
using a pair of 1100ma A123 cells -today the total weight would be 6-7 ozs.
as far as tx control of the spark - novel but hardly worthwhile except for diddlin around. The parameters of the stock advance board were plenty good(.alky has a greater tolerance for advance settings) .
However a wider spark gap did proove to produce more power -as long as the ignition did not "break down"
Power and smooth running with this setup exceeded glo plug setups as the timing remained where intended irrespective of heat .
This is whre glow setups go bad - as heat ADVANCES - so does the point of combustion!
A cheap Chinese ignition plus a magnet and a 10mm plug will make almost any glo setup into a alky/ ignition engine. the tiny spark plug interchangable with glow plugs also work but are a pain in the butt to use on a really high performance setup.
just physically, too small .
This entire conversion setup should cost anyone , well under $100 US. in parts.
I bet the guys at C&H can splain it all to you. and do the conversion for you,if you prefer
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For 202 Euro I'll sell you 3, 10mm ignitions, sensors, magnets-Shipped to your door
For 202 Euro I'll sell you 3, 10mm ignitions, sensors, magnets-Shipped to your door
ORIGINAL: the Wasp
my reply from Webra,,,
Thank you for your inquiry.
There are 2 Universal system:
1.) for the spark plug with M10 thread.......order no. 24110....€ 202,00
2.) for the spark plug with 1/4" thread.......order no. 24120....€ 202,00
Both systems are without spark plug and battery.
The second one is new and will come on the market in the end of March.
my reply from Webra,,,
Thank you for your inquiry.
There are 2 Universal system:
1.) for the spark plug with M10 thread.......order no. 24110....€ 202,00
2.) for the spark plug with 1/4" thread.......order no. 24120....€ 202,00
Both systems are without spark plug and battery.
The second one is new and will come on the market in the end of March.
#8
It all has to do with coil used that's the heavy part but 2-3 ounces - means nothing
prop weight differences are greater .
prop weight differences are greater .
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now come on guys LOL I didn't know the price when I saw it and posted it LOL
I called C&H, I believe it was TKG I talked to, I was told about $200 for parts and labor to convert my Super Tartan Twin..
I called C&H, I believe it was TKG I talked to, I was told about $200 for parts and labor to convert my Super Tartan Twin..



