So what do the BME bashers dislike about the bme? Rough idle,poor transition? I see the BME 110 extreme is now listed on their web page. Does that mean they are ready to ship?

I will be moving the rudder servo into the fuse. I will be installing carbon fiber pushrods, wing tubes, tail tubes, tailwheel assembly, and landing gear. I may also Move the elevator servos up into the fuse and put them on a pull pull. If I can pull that off then engine weight will be an issue.

You could do all that. A lighter plane is always better. IMO though its a waste of money. With a DA100 on it, you wont notice with all the stock stuff in the stock location and it will fly great.

Either way, have fun!!

yes the early 100's kicked more at idle but my 102 is not bad. Given that my plane is of a stick truss construction that is partially sheeted....if it were shaking too much my plane would be the 1st to show a problem. As to transition...if somebody tells you there's an issue then they don't own one, haven;t seen one, or just have something against the motor. If I had transition issues I wouldn't fly the way I do.

At the end of the day, if you can lighten up the tail and put a BME in the nose you're talking about a plane that is getting significantly lighter which ALWAYS translates to better performance.

Perry

I've seen the EVO-102 flying, and it's almost as strong as the old 3W-100 - down about 200 rpm. The BME advantage is light weight. Not everyone can take advantage of a light engine - depends on the ARF and kit design. The DA-100 is at least as strong as the old 3W-100 and is generally better running in the low throttle range. The monster power motor is the 3W-106. My buddy Walt had his QS out last weekend. It is 300 rpm stronger than a DA-100 on a 27x10 Menz-S (6700 rpm). If the BME Extreme can generate this kind of power and knock off 1.5lb, then they'll have an awesome motor. I hope they do, because that will force DA, 3W, and ZDZ to make their motors even better.

Anybody know how long the waiting list is for the Extreme?

Kieth posted the wait on another thread, you might want to search for it. I think he said it was about 500 long. I have an early place in line I'm willing to give up if you want it. Its taken so long for this engine to come out I've made other plans for the money.

I went on the waiting list today. Yeeehhhaawww. I dont actually need the engine till march of next year so I should have it by then.

I own all 3. If major power is in order go 3W-106. Its a bit tempermental at the start but a brute just the same. If you want ease with everything go DA. Its smooth, great transition and reliable as it can get. My BME runs great, it shakes the most has the least on power and costs as much as the others. All these are on stock mufflers. The new extreme is designed for pipes which may or may not be an issue. But if you are looking for one of the 3 the DA is really a nice engine. Walt

Some guys don't really care to use any exhaust setup but the little in cowl spouts- and for some setups -they work well -
I have yet to see any gasser which does not improve somewhat -with a header and a correctly matched muffler OR muffled can OR tuned can OR tuned pipe.
I can smell a comparison coming up with various new 100 size twin engines - and I will bet money - some putz will insist that all comparisons be done with the same mufflers.
That would be a BIG mistake for the buyers of any of em.
Each mfgr has his own thoughts as to what the customer wants -
And if you asked all of the buyers of 100 size engines what they considered the most important feature of a new 100 - you would get some very different answers.
Ideally it would be the least expensive - lightest ,easiest starting smoothest running, most durable - cheapest and quickest to fix, and have the most power .on the least expensive smallest mufflers that are the most quiet ---
What are the chances of all of that
happening?
Great?
Maybe?
Are you kidding?
Oh yes -it would also be the smallest package.
All of the recent engines are all special purpose designed throughout
Very few conversion engines - Tho
some of them are very good.
I mentioned 9 features.
Lets say -you wanted them all
In what order would you rate their importance?
The life of an engine designer ain't easy --

so are you saying that I shouldn't order the mufflers that thy are selling with this engine? I should wait and order pipes? Obviously BME is creating this engine to out perform the other 100 cc engine. Let's hope they are successful.

To everybody that is getting tired of waiting. I say to BME take your time and make sure it's right. I can wait. Thanks to all.

Thank you Crash,


I have said it before but we will sell no wine before its time. The last thing I would want to do is sell an engine with problems. We have been very meticulous designing the new BME110. We have spent more money than some spend on their homes and it has been tested by the best two-cycle tuners in the world. It is ready to sell and all that is holding up shipping is waiting for the cylinders and pistons to come in.



Thank you
Keith
BME

Hey Desertrat, how early a place in line do you have?

I think I am about #300 in line... and I have a plane waiting for a motor. I had 2 planes waiting for motors but I broke down and bought a ZDZ for one, still holding out for the BME for the other one.

How about the mufflers. Will I be ok with stock mufflers?